Dating Indonesian women may not be for everyone.
Indonesian women, particularly on the island of Java, are exceptionally beautiful. They tend towards the very feminine side, with lovely skin, are not too tall, and have knock-out smiles. There’s plenty of plus on that side of things.
If wer’e to be honest we have to recognise that many men are interested in a woman who will take care of him, do the housework without complaint, and take care of other matters similarly without much bother. Your average Indonesian girl often fits the bill in this respect, certainly more than your average western woman, the less said about them the better.
On the other hand going out with Indonesian women in a romantic way can have many mysterious pitfalls.
Some women here are clearly only interested in money. Some men are unbothered by this. Others of the female variety, can, once we get to know them very well, come across as practically insane, hysterically emotional, scheming, over-possessive, inclined to, usually fake, attempts at self-harm in order to get their way. As I said, not for the faint-hearted.
There are a few Indonesia dating websites although the area is not nearly as developed as that in nearby Phillipines or Thailand. To begin your online journey on the Indonesian dating scene our very own “Meet” section has many a lady eager for company.
Your average bule looking to marry an Indonesian is probably atheist/agnostic merely by default, and therefore unlikely to be troubled by “conversion”).
Indeed, one has been mick, prod, COE, jolly little lutheran as well depending on who had the best day off regime at the time. Of course, there are the more serious ones that one has dabbled in over the years MMC, Phantom Club (made jungle patrolman first class there)
BS
The amount is not important, the act of spending your resources on your partner is.
words of wisdom.
Yes, it’s a nice phrase.
In fact, if we change the words ‘your partner’ with ‘other human beings’, that’s what we call ‘amal’.
@bs
In a good relationship both make an effort
yep but not on 1s date, since it usually occasion to make good impression
I guess you guys have to get rid of the Soeharto generation first before you can go down that road in Indonesia…
in western also they have standart for graduate salary
for example 1000 – 1500 euro/ month
or 18.000 – 24.000 GBP/ month
anyway since Im in Indonesia and yep have to face the fact ‘age does matter’
actually maybe not age but ‘experience does matter’ and well it can be true as well
even amazing degree from amazing uni with amazing grade does help lot
anyway as young people I do enjoy the climb..
anyway regarding facts that shared in this web
I do prepare share first date bill start from now on
hence I will only date/meet/hangout with guy that equal as cute and as young as me lol
Hello everyone
well thank you all for your advise and I appreciate it very much. I can say I am very lucky to meet this lady. She lives near Jakarta, is 39 y/o with a two young sons, has a good secretarial job, owns her own small home and car and is divorced.
She did not in fact want to talk to me at first, she was a little fearful because I am ex/navy and that scared her but I after an email she decided to.
She is a lovely sincere gentle woman who I have great respect for and have found has a lot in common with me in particular to lifestyle.
So, we are going to explore the future and meet sometime later this year. We have been chatting for hours at a time, emails and texts so are starting to understand each other quite well.
Anyway, thank you for all your messages and support, I will heed your warnings and take things one step at a time.
We can look forward to a bright future though as we are both financially secure with good family backgrounds and with much in common.
Adam 🙂
@Adam
Not to completely “rain on your parade” so to speak, but since this is the internet and you have no idea who I am, may I offer a bit of advice that I hope is taken the right way (and if not, this is the internet, I’m pretty sure you’ll get over it)
Wouldn’t you rather hook up with someone younger? I mean to say… you can if you like. You don’t need permission from anyone. Nothing stopping you…. and maybe one without children that aren’t even yours.
Also, … what’s with her divorce? Oh now wait… let me guess….. it was the ex-husband’s fault? right? Not her fault one bit?
Say it ain’t so….
Good women are tried and tested so that they DON’T fail in spectacular ways in a marriage. You owe it to yourself to find out the TRUTH as to why. I, for one, don’t believe that people change their spots so easily. You should get the truth on the divorce issue.
I guess all I want to say is that you probably shouldn’t fall for the first woman you see when there are so many out there that you haven’t met yet.
Love from the women here can be intoxicating… but think with your head and not your small member. What’s her motivation for looking for another man, do you think? No good men in Indonesia? AT ALL?
She made a re-appearance as Fawzia the Iranian ex Muslim. Patrick actually guessed Fawzia=Shloka and she exitted.
F*ck me! I missed that one. I had noticed “Fawzia”, but not read too closely.
Shloka was unquestionably Indian – I’ve had the dubious pleasure of meeting plenty of her hyper-nationalist kind in the flesh; unmistakable.
However, given that she was quite prepared, in the name of providing “evidence” of the evils of Islam, to pretend to be something she wasn’t at all, then I think we can very safely take her claim to be a Bangladeshi refugee with a very large pinch of salt – and perhaps her claim to be only 16 likewise.
ET, as she wasn’t a Muslim you would of course struggle to conceive of her being representative of anything significantly bad, but believe me, she was. She was a classic example of a very real current in modern India that at best manifests as spectacular cultural arrogance and contempt for everyone else – presented with great erudition, be sure – and that at worst manifests as Muslims with their heads cut off and Christians burnt to death. But then, of course, so long as those people didn’t shout “Allah uh Akbar” as they wielded their machetes, they can’t have been all bad, can they…
Yawn…
@shawty
Wow, salaries are really 18 times higher in the U.K. compared to mainland Europe? I think I’ll find myself a boat tonight and cross the channel!
@nay
It seems Adam is quite capable of taking care of himself. And with his navy background I guess he spots the “wrong kind of women” way before we do…
But your a religious guy right? Sort of judging divorcees and tilt the blame over to the female part of the marriage. You fit the stereotype.
@adam
Go for it man, you can always backup if it’s not your thing. The are way more nice people in the world than jerks. Go meet them.
@ timdog
ET, as she wasn’t a Muslim you would of course struggle to conceive of her being representative of anything significantly bad, but believe me, she was.
…
But then, of course, so long as those people didn’t shout “Allah uh Akbar” as they wielded their machetes, they can’t have been all bad, can they…
You still banging on at ET man? Yawn ….
She was a classic example of a very real current in modern India that at best manifests as spectacular cultural arrogance and contempt for everyone else – presented with great erudition
Whoa! Long bow that one!
@bs
Sure he can take care of himself. Heck, it’s his life to live, not mine.
I may have studied religion, but ‘m not a religious person at all. In fact, I’m very anti-marriage. I see no need for a man to “buy” a wife as if she’s somehow personal property or personal slave. Thing is, if you’re going to go ahead with it anyway, in order to make sure you’ve “taken” her off the market (ahahaha! that’s a joke) , you’d want to check her out to make sure that she wouldn’t be likely to “breach her contract” and “nulllify” it before you hired her. If you’re that type of guy….
I mean to say, these women work very hard to earn their dough, and a lot of the time it’s a hard life having to service some random man for security and resources, who you may not really care all that much about.
Oh sorry, I was talking about prostitution.
@ Nay
She lives near Jakarta, is 39 y/o with a two young sons, has a good secretarial job, owns her own small home and car and is divorced.
She doesn’t sound like a prostitute mate.
@Swagman
Excuse me, but where did I say that she was?
… and even if I were to play your devil’s advocate… so what?
I mean to say, these women work very hard to earn their dough, and a lot of the time it’s a hard life having to service some random man for security and resources, who you may not really care all that much about.
Oh sorry, I was talking about prostitution.
“These women”?
@Swagman
Listen. Unless you haven’t figured it out yet… what have my personal thoughts on marriage got to do with a woman, I’m pretty sure it’s obvious, that I don’t know the slightest about?
You’re reading this waaay out of context.
@Nay
Listen, unless you have forgotten, you made a comment to Adam regarding his pending relationship with the girl he met on the internet. Following bs’s comment,
@nay
It seems Adam is quite capable of taking care of himself. And with his navy background I guess he spots the “wrong kind of women” way before we do…
you responded with an out of the blue reference to prostitution – somehow linking it all together. So, it may appear to people reading that you were continuing the thread.
Also, I did not say that you said she was a prostitute.
Btw, I do not care about your thoughts on marriage …. simply sounds like a half-baked academic rationale to me anyway.
@nay
You might not be religious, but you seem to have the same opinion when it comes to marriage.
“Women have to do service, the man has to pay the bills and buys woman.”
It presumes the sort of gender inequality that is common in most religions. Your study obviously had some impact on how you view the world.
But why anti-marriage? I’d be interested to know.
“Women have to do service, the man has to pay the bills and buys woman.”
It presumes the sort of gender inequality that is common in most religions. Your study obviously had some impact on how you view the world.But why anti-marriage? I’d be interested to know.
I’m anti marriage for the exact reason you allude to above. I’m totally against the gender inequality that is still common today. Pretty much everywhere in the world it’s still perfectly OK for men to buy women, as if they were high class prostitutes… and women do so because society tells them to do so, and they feel they have no choice.
Now, is that the case in every marriage? Of course not. I wouldn’t dare make that kind of inaccurate generalization. However, I’m willing to bet it’s a deciding factor in marriages that fail.
Honestly, the only reason why men prefer virgins and want to marry women in the first place is to ensure that the child that she has (and he helps rear) is actually his and not some other man’s. (To be fair, it’s a real concern because baby daddies exist.)
Fortunately these days we can take paternity tests, but in the historic past we could not.
To that end, whether men realise it or not, they begin becoming overly protective, jealous, untrusting, and angry when women can’t follow their rules… So THAT kind of relationship is doomed from the very beginning.
Perhaps the instinct is ingrained, but it’s enlightening to know where it came from.
Of course, women CAN’T follow the rules because they are human beings too, who desire to be attractive to many men, for reasons of their own.
So religion comes into the picture to essentially scare women into “being faithful”, and hence, marriage is a religious ceremony held in front of a lot of people to reinforce that “God” will punish men and women in the afterlife for “breaking their vows”, and not sleeping or being with men that they are not married to. Essentially, women aren’t trusted from the very beginning and this continues through marriage… pretty much tainting any relationship with women from the very start.
The honeymoon is so called because a woman has her period once every “moon”, and during a month away with her new husband, the man can conceive with her with a fair amount of certainty that he will be the father of their first child.
Will espouse on more of this later. This post is already too big
@ swagman:
yeah, statements of a disappointed woman… poor girl…
I don’t know Nay, I’ve been brought up with the idea that marriage is a legal institution, not a religious one. Where I’m from a marriage is only valid if it’s done in a procedure at the municipality. The religious marriages aren’t even recognised. Men and women are equal in these marriages, so if you divorce and your wife earns a higher salary, she pays you alimony.
Maybe it’s different where you are from, and yes it once was different here too. Times have changed though.
Now, is that the case in every marriage? Of course not. I wouldn’t dare make that kind of inaccurate generalization. However, I’m willing to bet it’s a deciding factor in marriages that fail.
But I’m with you on this one.
Hi all, been away for a while (10 weeks in Indonesia on leave), had to register to get in? new? I’m now writing from a VERY VERY COLD and WET Spain
About marriage: someone once told me for men its stupid to get married as its going to cost a lot of $ and for woman its a necessity for a more secure life. And this is in all countries basically the same.
At least for the me its fun and nice to be married as I suppose I always need someone next to me or within calling distance in good or bad times. Working is nice but if you have no one to spend it on its very shallow. You can have a nice house with a nice garden etc. but if you can not share it its worth nothing.
As for being married to a Indonesian girl I think its a good choice, but again you have to be a bit lucky you have chosen the right one. This time will tell and you can only loose some cash and grief if things do not work out.
But for sure life goes on and its not the end of the world if things do not work out.
But then, of course, so long as those people didn’t shout “Allah uh Akbar” as they wielded their machetes, they can’t have been all bad, can they…
Sorry to all you lover boys (and girls) for prolonging this slightly out of topic discussion.
timdog, you have a funny way of putting words or meanings in my mouth that weren’t there. Random atrocities committed for nationalism or revenge are in itself as bad and despicable as those inspired by religious fundamentalism. But when people shout Allahu Akbar I make a connection with islam and not with nationalism or revenge, because islam is the only religion I know based on scriptures that condone and even promote violence in its name.
@ Adam
If she had regular job, she is ok. Go for it ! heheh
@ brianpommy
Oh my god, what a cute cute daughter and beautiful wife !!
@ peet
welcome back i guess….
Thanks for you guys opinion. But for me nothings wrong with that. Its not about mutilation, same like you work for a company and you must follow what rule in your company and its same like religion when you choose it n believe it you know the rule that you must do. Hope one day you guys can fix your negative minded. I don’t care even one day he will leave me alone between religion n our life, I believe God arrange it all. I think it will never end about bad perception about bule in this site, no change…
But for me nothings wrong with that. Its not about mutilation, same like you work for a company and you must follow what rule in your company and its same like religion when you choose it n believe it you know the rule that you must do. Hope one day you guys can fix your negative minded.
Sure, for you nothing’s wrong with it. Question is would your husband have made the same decision if he wasn’t put before the choice: either submit and be allowed to marry you or be considered a “waste of time” as you have put it so delicately.
I don’t care even one day he will leave me alone between religion n our life, I believe God arrange it all.
God gets blamed for everything!
@bs
20.00-24.000 GBP / month
doh my bad, supposed to be per year
@brianpommy
if you have to pay for a girl in Asia, at least you will have a good time guaranteed.
pretty much agree..oh sad but so true I guess
Congrat for the cute baby and pretty wifey
@ lady
Hope one day you guys can fix your negative minded.
Okay, I’m willing to reconsider and look at it in a positive way. If I convert will I also be allowed to have 4 wives?
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It is not amazing but it is a fair price for a dirty bule who want to be decontaminated before he allowed to enjoy an exotic pristine pussy.
However, if you want to follow him I do not think a normal circumcision will be enough for you, because to alleviate your deep hate toward Islam, a full genital mutilation will be required.