Dating Indonesian Girls
Apr 4th, 2006, in Society, by PatungDating Indonesian women may not be for everyone.
Indonesian women, particularly on the island of Java, are exceptionally beautiful. They tend towards the very feminine side, with lovely skin, are not too tall, and have knock-out smiles. There’s plenty of plus on that side of things.
If wer’e to be honest we have to recognise that many men are interested in a woman who will take care of him, do the housework without complaint, and take care of other matters similarly without much bother. Your average Indonesian girl often fits the bill in this respect, certainly more than your average western woman, the less said about them the better.
On the other hand going out with Indonesian women in a romantic way can have many mysterious pitfalls.
Some women here are clearly only interested in money. Some men are unbothered by this. Others of the female variety, can, once we get to know them very well, come across as practically insane, hysterically emotional, scheming, over-possessive, inclined to, usually fake, attempts at self-harm in order to get their way. As I said, not for the faint-hearted.
There are a few Indonesia dating websites although the area is not nearly as developed as that in nearby Phillipines or Thailand. To begin your online journey on the Indonesian dating scene our very own “Meet” section has many a lady eager for company.
4,898 Comments on “Dating Indonesian Girls”
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brian astaga says:
Rima, I dont want you to learn sarcasm please 🙂
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Rima Fauzi says:
@Kodew:
I’ve learned a few things from this thread. 😉@Brian: too late. I’ve already learned sarcasm, though not quite successful in applying it.. lol
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ET says:
Sorry but I can understand if a girl with limited education, perhaps a kid and a mother to care for says “lets see I can sell cupcakes all month and maybe make $100 this month or I can turn 1/2 dozen tricks and make $600 and spend time with my kids.
OK, now let’s change one word in this sentence
Sorry but I can understand if a guy with limited education, perhaps a kid and a mother to care for says “lets see I can sell cupcakes all month and maybe make $100 this month or I can turn 1/2 dozen tricks and make $600 and spend time with my kids.
Now I wonder if reactions by some would be equally apologetic if it’s the willy instead of the fanny that is put up for rent.
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Oigal says:
Now I wonder if reactions by some would be equally apologetic if it’s the willy instead of the fanny that is put up for rent.
I have considered it but dunno if the markets there, “maidens service here”?
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ET
how many females do you think have left their husbands, leaving them with the duties of providing their children, parents etc?I dont know the answer I am just asking the question!
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ET:
I still think it’s a personal choice.
After all, there wont be prostitutes/gigolos if there werent johns/janes.This reminds me, I need to get my weekly fix of HUNG..
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how many females do you think have left their husbands, leaving them with the duties of providing their children, parents etc?
I don’t have statistics but numbers were not my point. It seems to me that female or male prostitution usually provoke different reactions, the former often being sought for excuses, the latter being trivialized or even scorned.
Where does the double standard come from?
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Ahh.. the double standards of the male world.
If a girl sleeps around she is a cheap slut.
If a man sleeps around he is a force to be reckoned with (or a male crush for wimpy males)If a female boss is strict and a takes no nonsense kind of boss then she is a bitch.
If a male boss is strict and a takes no nonsense kind of boss then he is a good and strong boss.That’s just how the world is.
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cant disagree with that! cant say I have ever met or seen a male prostitute though. maybe if we really want to talk about male prostitutes we need some female posters on here who know whats going on with them…….
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Suryo Perkoso says:
Oigal Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Yes, if it’s true about her Dad, she’s kind of got you there, Oigal.Yea…Ouch.. Its what comes when one leads with ones chin, I was a bit narrow focus and in error with that one there.
Don’t fall for it, it’s the lowest trick in the book, true or not – my wife’s dad died when she was 14 leaving them potless, she didn’t turn to brassing – there is no connection, however sad it may be)
(no lies there)
@Rima, from iside, you can’t judge that and you are not correct. So, just for example, when you see some luantic nearly kill himself and his family doing something stupid on a motor bike, do you think nothing of it, or do you think “you dumb f**k”. It’s a simple as that Rima, if you are telling me that after experience, particular 15 years, outside Indo that you have changed perspective, then I am sorry to have to disbelieve you – it’s not possible.
Yeh, you are correct, we shouldn’t judge, but we do, don’t we? even by commenting here, we are judging whether or no we beleive that a Pro is somthing to be ashamed of. I certainly don’t think it’s much to be proud of, though that is about the limit of it. That’s judgement, like it or not.In anycase, it’s all only an opinion, just so long as Brian knows what he may be taking on.
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I am aware of what i’m taking on, but I am seriously thankful of what Rima has spoken about, because before she posted on here and I was talking to suryo, farah, ET etc etc, and was thinking about my girl too much and thoughts were starting to become negative towards her, and I stopped just going with the flow!
but one cant take too much advice from people in this forum becasue my relationship is like an individuals DNA it is different to others relationships and typical indo-non indo relationships. So especially from suryo and farah I have became aware of what can happen and things to watch in our relationship which I am very thankful for, however, I will be mostly listening to Rima who suggest go with flow, but use your brains etc etc. 🙂
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but one cant take too much advice from people in this forum becasue my relationship is like an individuals DNA it is different to others relationships and typical indo-non indo relationships.
You are right. In the end it’s just water under the bridge.
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Andy says:
brian –
cant disagree with that! cant say I have ever met or seen a male prostitute though. maybe if we really want to talk about male prostitutes we need some female posters on here who know whats going on with them…….
Indonesia has many of them. Bali is home to an amazing amount of gigolos and they are known to marry older mmmm much uglier Aussie women in much the same way as some of the women marry crusty old bule men. On the other side of the ledger there are straight men who go the other way and sleep with men. I knew a gay Canadian guy who used to sleep with his ojek riders who then used to go home to their wives and kids. $$$ talks.
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Farah says:
Back again…
@ Brian
Like i said, its all back to you. No need to get all upset. Everybody have their own point of view here. If you disagree with mine.. well thats your business 🙂Of course love is blind. If she does make you happy then like you just said go with the flow.
All i said here just because i seen what prostitute do to my expat friend, boss and co worker, they just destroy their life. Money gone, no family, no girl friend.
I would be more than happy if your’s ended hapily ever after. I got nothing up against you. You do thing that made you happy thats all, and i am happy to see people happy 😀
For a tourist not necessarily trying to have a relationship with an indo girl but still, if my girl farah was selling cupcakes instead of being a prostitute, how would I meet her? what buy a cupcake and sweep her off her feet..
When i was in Jogjakarta for studying in 1999, i have a friend that madly in love with a girl that selling ketroprak and gado-gado near University of Gajahmada. She’s orphan, stay with her grand mother. Oh my friendis an exchange student, he is a kiwi.
He goes head over heels to her because of her smile and gentle attitude, and her brown skin. Well i don’t know hows the end, because i moved to other city a month after that. But i surely does have so many gado-gado for lunch, and dinner (and for free hehehe) just to be a translator for him to speak with her !! Its not at bar btw.My relative married a London guy, they meet at they work place, an english course in Bogor. She work as a teacher, and wearing head scarf, obviously never touch the bar. My teacher at university married with French guy, his co worker. A friend from other faculty during my university married with her chat friend, and its been 7 years, they sound happy.
There are plenty nice Indonesian women beside girls you met in bars, just like Ms. Rima said.
But sure do its all about choice.
You are educated, i believe you do look ok, ofcourse buying cupcakes, or gado-gado could swep off some girl heart, if you really meant it dude !
@ kodew
@Farah
I’m sorry u lost ur Dad at age 16 but I am not sure u were in the exactly same situation like those unlucky people who lost their father, mother or any other family member, I mean as I read here somewhere your father was a PNS right? even the poorest PNS are more lucky than people who are born fakir and miskin. Am sure you had dana pensiun to meet ur basic need (food) right. Am sorry you were struggling for getting into to school etc, believe me you are not the only one, but still we are blessed tobe one of those lucky people. Those unlucky people, mostly DO NOT have any money AT ALL, not even for food for the next day. Let’s not judge if we can not help them.Dear mr kodew… if my dad is high rank, i would be more than happy not to whining here. As in PNS pensiun not as high as you thought it is, unless like you are golongan 4 above or some pejabat eslon something.
I am and my 3 other sisters are VERY LUCKY if you want to know that. Like i said, at least i do not need to spread my legs to get food (or new prada bags, or oh so cute mini black dress, or branded shoes, or watch). Sure we could still give other people somemoney but, i am not some snobbish girl who travel abroad with daddy money and look down and say harsh thing about people who struggling to get money. Like oink gal say, some elite people (bwahaha !).I won’t judge anyone that struggle through their life to even get food.
Its not the thing that i want to say.
Its just irritate me if everyone does generalize the rental units and think they are they most unlucky people. Because not all of them pushed to do the job to fullfill their needs. There are some that actually like the job, like the fast money, free drink, guys attention, night life day after day. Its kind of very naive too to think that all of them that nice.
I know i’ve been bit harsh to say things about them, but hey they do realize when they do this, they have brain, they could choose.@ oink gal
Only trouble is I was living in a government funded boarding school at age 14. 700km from home as we counted amongst the rural depressed and there was no way university was going to be an option for us sweetie. See.. hard luck stories are a dime a dozen, the difference being I had an option not nice but food was there and eventually I learned enough skills to turn a buck (as did you Farah), many other Indonesians do not have the option. Selling cupcakes ain’t going to pay the medical bills.
Sorry but I can understand if a girl with limited education, perhaps a kid and a mother to care for says “lets see I can sell cupcakes all month and maybe make $100 this month or I can turn 1/2 dozen tricks and make $600 and spend time with my kids. Not nice but understandable and for rich spoilt brats to be looking down on these people simply amazes me.
Hehe.. boarding school eh? and its goverment funding, wish indonesia that good (free schoolbuy you should pay for books, uniform, school organization, etc, end up paying Rp 30.000 permonth per child). And even goverment not put all of pns children into medical insurance just the first and the 2nd child. So as a civil servant family that have more than 2 children, being sick just sucks (mom will upset if i was sick, hehe)
I agree.. i don’t like people look down anyone whos REALLY working their a*s for something to eat every single day. Or any rich brat or girl who said those cupcakes, or gado-gado seller not much better than a prostitute. I respect those gado-gado/cupcakes/fried banana seller rather than prostitute.
But sure thats just me 🙂
I think we ever discuss about bali gigolo somewhere on this website….. hmmmm..
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Rob says:
Yep…Love is blind, but sadly it is sometimes deaf, dumb, and stupid to boot.
Who are we to judge the occupations of others. I can respect anyone and would hope that respect would be returned in kind. I am not going to judge a cup cake seller anymore than I am going to judge a woman who performs sexual services for money or kind.
@ Farah…
I respect those gado-gado/cupcakes/fried banana seller rather than prostitute.
Is this because selling gado2, cupcakes, or fried banana is an honest days work and prostitution is not?
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Kodew says:
@Mbak Farah
Dear mr kodew if my dad is high rank, i would be more than happy not to whining here. As in PNS pensiun not as high as you thought it is, unless like you are golongan 4 above or some pejabat eslon something.
I am and my 3 other sisters are VERY LUCKY if you want to know that. Like i said, at least i do not need to spread my legs to get food (or new prada bags, or oh so cute mini black dress, or branded shoes, or watch). Sure we could still give other people somemoney but, i am not some snobbish girl who travel abroad with daddy money and look down and say harsh thing about people who struggling to get money. Like oink gal say, some elite people (bwahaha !).I came from PNS pensiun family too with gol 2 with only 350.000 wage a month supporting 4 family member, we were struggling but still we could get into school and food and alhamdullillah going to uni too by ‘gali lobang tutup lobang’. But compared to some people who live only from doing other people’s laundry, I felt so lucky. All am saying is that what u call u were struggling am sure was very different than what Brian’s girl or any bar girl’s story, so please dont judge her or any other Bar girls in general, we all here never know the real reasons right?, you keep saying u dont generalize but still from ur posts here, you do generalizing Mbak ;). Be thankful that you ‘dont have to spread ur legs’ to get food but no need to judge or calling names of others that do. Some might do it for fun, some was forced to do that. But still, dont generalize, even you see people around you had trouble with those girls.
Dear mr kodew
btw, am not a tranny :P, peace mbak 😉
@Rima
Who you learn the most from? 😉
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Oh yawn!!.. Oinkgal..really? DO try and rise above the level of a common troll or at least try something with a bit of humour.
“And even goverment not put all of pns children into medical insurance just the first and the 2nd child. So as a civil servant family that have more than 2 children, being sick just sucks (mom will upset if i was sick, hehe)”
Dearie me, well that just places you several tiers higher on the survivalability ladder than 85% of the Indonesian population.
Actually the civil servant and…naggh too easy.
I won’t judge anyone that struggle through their life to even get food.
Ah you are serious! That’s the point, No one really cares about yet another spoilt little one but you have been judging others the whole time which started this conversation, invariably those who did not have the advantages you did. It’s your (typical) lack of empathy and worse the fact you don’t even grasp the fact that lack empathy (although that is must to sleep at night I guess)
In fact this is comical..
I won’t judge anyone that struggle through their life to even get food.
Followed by:
if everyone does generalize the rental units and think they are they most unlucky people.
I know i’ve been bit harsh to say things about them, but hey they do realize when they do this, they have brain, they could choose.
Mmmm dunno maybe just me, sounds like a judgement to me 🙂
Seems to me you have lot be be thankful for rather than looking down your nose at others. Its true that some may well choose the occupation but its just as true many many people never have the opportunities that you did Farah, its just a shame you can’t grasp that cold reality.
Are you seriously suggesting that if you got sick your family could not find the money for treatment? Unfortunately, that happens every day to thousands in Indonesia, finding millions of rupiah is not easy nor does it come from selling cupcakes. Under that kind of pressure people make “poor” life choices but understandable choices.
BTW.. You have the boarding school all arse about (like most of life)..Its not a “boarding school” like you are thinkings (aka private school) spoilt one…more reformatory. Then again a natural assumption from people who cannot see below them.
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@ andy
That guy from Canada you talk of really should pull his head in and get real. How un-honest is that to your family, he must really be a great actor or bullsh*tter to pull that off and not cause unrest with his wife and kids. what a loser!
in response to this talk in generall terms because shore there are huge variations! can I ask to get things into perspective here, how much would people live on and require each month in indonesia for (a) child going to school who eats ok and lives ok (b) a person who owns a stall eg. in bali selling clothes/cupcakes etc (c) a family or person in a fairly bad state of poverty
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@ Rob
I think its more than the way i see it, they sell everything they had, like sold their soul to the devil. I think the most poor people is the people who sold their own freedom. They cant show they sad, cant be them self. I don’t call that as freedom.But sure its just my thought.
@ kodew
Hm…. i DID say not all like that, did i?? or i missed it and had day dreaming? i said some of them, means not all… or its a wrong english? hmmmm…
Yes like i said i am lucky. Same, gali lobang tutup lobang… so? why its all about me pak kodew? because i said something different than other said? i thought mr suharto era is gone already? being different alittle bit than usual is normal these day 🙂@ oink gal
I think once you said, oh brian did said i copy and paste half of people statement here and he got annoyed, and see who did that now.I am not a civil servant, say your thing, wont get me anyway.
Ah you are serious! That’s the point, No one really cares about yet another spoilt little one but you have been judging others the whole time which started this conversation, invariably those who did not have the advantages you did. It’s your (typical) lack of empathy and worse the fact you don’t even grasp the fact that lack empathy (although that is must to sleep at night I guess)
And i am asking my dear oink gal, what are you doing to me now? singing a song? nope.. ahhh its called judging people !
Are you seriously suggesting that if you got sick your family could not find the money for treatment? Unfortunately, that happens every day to thousands in Indonesia, finding millions of rupiah is not easy nor does it come from selling cupcakes. Under that kind of pressure people make “poor” life choices but understandable choices.
Nahhhh i didnt say that,wear your reading glasses my old friend. I said something about health insurance given to civil servant.. wait copy and paste…
And even goverment not put all of pns children into medical insurance just the first and the 2nd child. So as a civil servant family that have more than 2 children, being sick just sucks (mom will upset if i was sick, hehe)
Thats what i post.. am i right??????? dis i said my family cant get treatment for me.. awww old fella better really put that glasses on !!
Its not about me 😉 cool off your head OINK-gal ! its dating indonesian girls here we talk !
BTW.. You have the boarding school all arse about (like most of life)..Its not a “boarding school” like you are thinkings (aka private school) spoilt one…more reformatory. Then again a natural assumption from people who cannot see below them.
YOUR boarding house is for free. Free books, free place to ease your head, couple room mate.. well you aretotaly wrong, i dont even think about those spoiled bratt boarding school (should i?). Stop guessing what i think, you’re not a mind reader, and stop telling people not to judge others while.. haheha look at you now !
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Laugh 🙂
Funny “its not about me” you sure talk a lot of trash about yourself then..
I always judge people sweetie but try and show a bit more empathy than some and I certainly don’t write stupid comments in Bold and the sentences later start calling people rental units… 🙂
In fact you have been weight and measured and came up short in the humanity stakes (not to mention the logical debate market).
Dating Indonesia Girls….Well someone needs to be dated thats for sure…
Now unless you can do better than the last little rant, I must move on you really are becoming a “one trick pony” Hi di ho
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jen says:
@Farah
I personally think it’s not nice to think low of those girls working as a prostitute. Life isn’t as easy as 1 2 3, and I really think that when someone ‘decided’ to become a prostitute, it’s not because they’re too lazy to get other job. At least not that simple. If you think it is that easy for a girl to have sex to someone they hardly know, or like, well, you better think again.I won’t say much about this, since I don’t know much about this prostitution business. I myself have been called/named as a whore for numerous of time, but I wouldn’t consider me as one :D. I knew a little about prostitution while working on a paper in university, and from there I got a deeper knowledge about it, which completely change my point of view. I think these women need help instead of being judge, and if we can’t help, the least thing we can do is not saying bad things about them. Especially to generalize them like that, when they can’t defend theirselves.
Oh, and if you wonder, I’m Indonesian, have a child out of wedlock, and I’m pregnant with my second one, with different father who also not my husband (and actually just last week he told me to never contact him ever again – he wants me to get an abortion and he was furious to find out that I was still pregt) – now you understand why I’m called a whore by the people around me – they’re religious people who can’t accept this kind of behaviour.
My parents are wealthy, I got my first car (actually all 4 of their children) when I was 17, and they also provide each of us with a small house, and yes, I went travelling abroad since I was 5, and boy how I love Prada and Jimmy Choo and lucky enought to be able to keep few of their items as my fashion collection.
But Farah, just because my parents have more money than some other people (tho I wouldn’t call them rich since I know lots of people who have more money), doesn’t mean I work less hard than them, nor I’m less a people than those who aren’t as fortunate as myself. I don’t need to brag about it since I don’t have to impress anyone. One thing I want to share is I lost everything – which I work hard and honest for it and not for something that daddy made grants to me – within second, not because of a prostitute, but because of this guy who I thought I loved (I don’t think I love him that much anymore that I found out he is irresponsible. He really turns me off). When Dad found out I was about to get an abortion in Spore (and I had to stay there for almost a month for some problems due to my pregnancy) he closed down my business, he took my 2 gals (I have an adopted daughter), I had to sell my car and apt to be able to pay for my medication in Spore and to be able to send money for my children (my God helps me I’d rather die than to loose my children).
Now I live in a kos which cost less than my concealer and the size is less than my bathroom at home (oh, and no private bathroom!!!!!!), and go to work by bus. 4 months ago I spent as much as I earn now within 2 nights in Bali.
Yes I still can thankful now that I still can get a job, and next month I will get a better job with better salary so I’m really happy at the moment. But just in case, things turn worse that I might expect, and I got no other choice than to ‘sell’ my body to a stranger in order to keep my gals (Dad knows my weakness, my children. He knows by taking them away from me will kill me slowly. He’d rather me to keep a child out of wedlock and face all the bad things people say about him being not a good parent for me, rather than to think that he’d raised a killer), I’ll do it. I swear I’ll do. I will even sell my organ if necessary.
I don’t care if people think I’m a bad person, spoiled brat, a whore, or not as good as you (who condsider yourself as) middle class people who struggle for your life without spreading your legs… as long as I my children think I’m a good mother, that’s enough for me.Oh, I was about to say that this guy, who isn’t a (male) prostitute, has too ruined my life. Part of it is my fault, but this Aussie guy could’ve saved my @$$ if he did something when I needed him. I’ve done my mistake, I’m paying for it. I don’t have much time to complain, I have kids to feed, which reminds me I have to get back to work.
Have a nice afternoon everyone. I really hope you have a wonderful life to lead.
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@ oink-gal
I always judge people sweetie but try and show a bit more empathy than some and I certainly don’t write stupid comments in Bold and the sentences later start calling people rental units… 🙂
Well.. show bit emphaty ? really? you do have that? hehe yea right, could see your debate saga over nonesense with someone else than me here on this website, so quit saying you have bit emphaty.
“Rental units” i just quote that from my fella expatriate workers. Its not just come out from my dictionary just like that. I think its even better than call them a prostitute or a wh*re, or sl*t maybe. I just think what ever the name is thats what they do, they renting their properties, just like people did coruption called corruptors, or someone steal other people wallet as pick pocket or copet!
Why you should cover your eyes and shut your ears when people said “rental units” while you said or heard f*ck or sl*t daily? isn’t that a bit hypocrite?
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“Rental units” i just quote that from my fella expatriate workers. Its not just come out from my dictionary just like that. I think its even better than call them a prostitute or a wh*re, or sl*t maybe. I just think what ever the name is thats what they do, they renting their properties, just like people did coruption called corruptors,
Thanks Farah..You are without a doubt, your own worst enemy in a debate but at least you a not judging them ROFLMAO
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@ jen
Well.. you are not a prostitute, just have bad luck on your love story. Sorry for what happened to you.This is all began because someone said prostitute have pride. Because i can’t see that right since they don’t even have them self. You have pride when you could do things you want, like being happy or crying when you sad ! just as simple as that. I know its hard thats why i am saying this. Do you ever see crying prostitute while they are working? no. Its hard, i know. Its just too bad they did that.
Yes, there are unlucky people just like you and then trapped being prostitute for living, but its not all of them have some problem and have to go that way. Some of them just like the attention, peresent, money, when they actually have it (not have to be prostitute).
Several time i have to pick up a 6 years old girl (she’s a rape victims) for my work she live at a prostitution area. I saw what is it like the workplace, i talk with them (while waiting). I do feel sad for them who don’t want that to happened to them, the one who trapped, but also feel upset to other some who did that just because think this is one way for being rich, or just satisfy the needs.
Just don’t close your eyes, there are these kind of girls, who doing it for fun, or just for extra clothes, new watch etc. These kind of girls that i look down at!
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@ oink-gal
“Rental units” i just quote that from my fella expatriate workers. Its not just come out from my dictionary just like that. I think its even better than call them a prostitute or a wh*re, or sl*t maybe. I just think what ever the name is thats what they do, they renting their properties, just like people did coruption called corruptors,
Thanks Farah..You are without a doubt, your own worst enemy in a debate but at least you a not judging them ROFLMAO
anything to made you happy oink gal what so ever.. so you could be the winner.. yaayy ! we have a winner now !
Hope you are happy oink gal ! you are the best !isn’t that awesome?!!go out celebrate now 🙂 🙂 (oh like i care!)
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@Mbak Farah,
You didnt say ALL, i know, but then you write as if you know Brian’s girl or any other bar girls by judging them and ‘ngenyek’ (‘menghina’ in boso jawa timuran ker!) like :The girl you love do everything for money, cant you see that ? what made you think she will stay with you if she found someone with much more money? or more cute? or younger?
isnt she such a gentle heart in a mean world.. aaaawwwwwww.. what an angelic diva……
you dont know her right Mbak Farah? but easily you judge her, dont you think it cames from ‘generalizing’? 😉 and no, nothing’s wrong with the english just the sense you bring with ur posts Mbak:)
And dont worry, it’s not all about you kok, but you write things that catch people’s attention Mbak (i know you didnt mean to, right 😉 )
And dont worry you can say anything different and you are right, it’s normal being bit different and definetely Pak Harto Era had gone. Am sure some people here who said their opinion towards you only responded what you wrote. Jaman reformasi memang jamannya orang bebas berpendapat mbak tapi bebas yang bertanggung jawab, biar nggak kebablasan ( i speak this in general, not about you ya mbak 🙂 )
Btw, am still a Mbak, not Pak 😀
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@Jen
It’s simple isn’t it, you have children and will do whatever it takes to support them. F*ck thinking of yourself and think of the people who depend on you, the people who would struggle to live in this world without you!!!! My girl in indonesia is much the same maybe with less complications than you no offense at that of course. If she has to be a prostitute to support her children well…. that has to be done and she knows that. Do people really really really think she enjoys some old grandpa who she has no idea about, having sex with her? Too critical which is not correct regarding that. Many more important issues going on in the world which people should be sad and critical towards, tsunami and terrorism just for a start!!!!at the end of the day its just money, when she returns she can have a moment to herself and say look…i have money for my kids who are safe…..I am safe…its all good… tomorrow is a new day…big smile 🙂
It is very simple lets not complicate it too much!
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@Farah
Just don’t close your eyes, there are these kind of girls, who doing it for fun, or just for extra clothes, new watch etc. These kind of girls that i look down at!
completely agree with you aye
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Lairedion says:
Andy, weren’t you the one who got laid a 1,000 times more in Java than Bali? And now you’re moaning about gold-digging Indonesian girls and you being a victim of it.
If we must believe your formidable achievements (and why shouldn’t we) than it seems you did a lot of digging yourself.
At what number you struck gold with your current Chinese Indonesian wife (your own words)?
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@Rima
you wanna learn sum? 😉 can you learn from this thread? lol