Dating Indonesian women may not be for everyone.
Indonesian women, particularly on the island of Java, are exceptionally beautiful. They tend towards the very feminine side, with lovely skin, are not too tall, and have knock-out smiles. There’s plenty of plus on that side of things.
If wer’e to be honest we have to recognise that many men are interested in a woman who will take care of him, do the housework without complaint, and take care of other matters similarly without much bother. Your average Indonesian girl often fits the bill in this respect, certainly more than your average western woman, the less said about them the better.
On the other hand going out with Indonesian women in a romantic way can have many mysterious pitfalls.
Some women here are clearly only interested in money. Some men are unbothered by this. Others of the female variety, can, once we get to know them very well, come across as practically insane, hysterically emotional, scheming, over-possessive, inclined to, usually fake, attempts at self-harm in order to get their way. As I said, not for the faint-hearted.
There are a few Indonesia dating websites although the area is not nearly as developed as that in nearby Phillipines or Thailand. To begin your online journey on the Indonesian dating scene our very own “Meet” section has many a lady eager for company.
Then i can’t see what the point of a bule looking for traditional woman in asia?
Why not do that with another caucasian woman? more modern, more up to one night stand? and less commitments? and careless about having children or even diapers (they will say ewwww gross !!)
Because men, being men, like variety. You misunderstand, but its the nature of men to love ALL women, and not just particular types! If you are wondering if a certain man really likes you, well yes, they ALL do. They would ALL want to have sex with you too, if you let them (and let’s face it, women are the ones who decide this, NOT men!).
It’s not that white men find asian women more attractive, but rather they like them because they are different! … and you’ll find that men and women of every race are subconciously attracted to different races. It has something to do with the theory of evolution, mixing of genes and so forth… which is why you’ll find western men attracted to Indonesian girls who in Indonesia would be considered “ugly” by the locals. Similarly, Indonesian men find some white women attractive who I think are somewhat average in appearance.
The REAL issue for men who want to marry to have children and a happy family, is whether we as men could LIVE WITH a particular women and raise a family with them!
Sure, all women are gorgeous and fun for a one night stand, but not all of them would be good mothers, nor could we want to spend the rest of their lives with them! Some women are sexy, but emotionally unstable to the point where we wouldn’t trust them with our families and property! They’re fun for one-night, or maybe as off-again-on-again partners, but nothing more deepening which requires a higher level attraction, trust and compatibility. In my experience, it’s typically the women who decide whether the relationship continues or not. I have never EVER told a woman to go away after being with her. No man who is enjoying being with a woman wants them to go away and never come back if they were once nice to him… but yet because women are typically fussy and defensive over which men they should have sex with (and because they know they can have sex with any man they like), the end result is that they end up sleeping with lots of different men. Of course afterwards they have to lie about it because society makes women who do this look very very bad. (Typically they try to equivocate their behaviour by constantly blaming men for the “failure”, or saying “it didn’t count” or “we broke up” as an excuse to still keep the man in love with her, while simultaneously having him leave her alone while she finds another man.)
Anyway…. if us men have to choose who it’s going to be for life, (and men get THIS choice at least!) we’re going to be picky about it. Sexual and intellectual compatibility is a big one, as well as all the standard things like trust, loyalty, honesty, etc. as well as being an emotionally stable and admirable person.
i on the other hand, wouldn’t mind the approval of like-minded men who love endlessly but understands as well that sometimes we can’t stand each other. lol
What I think she’s trying to say here is that women need variety as much as men do, and that a controlling, jealous man who hinges the happiness of the relationship on whoever she also may find attractive, is just going to ruin the fun and take away her freedom.
I never find myself in arguments with women, because when they eventually tire of me (and they do), I understand that she needs a break from me and want to be attractive for other men for a while. Hence, they never have to argue with me or lie to me because I understand them already!
Women don’t enjoy fashion and makeup and jewelery to be attractive to one man only, and her self-esteem requires that men constantly find her attractive. Even if I was the best looking and sexiest man on the planet with the best sexual technique, she’d still want to receive validation of her attractiveness from other men.
Similarly, I enjoy meeting other beautiful women too! What man doesn’t?
As long as there’s that understanding, I can stay friends with these women and let them enjoy their lives too. So there are no battles, nagging, lies, or arguments. Those things are for boyfriends and husbands, and men who need to believe that they own her.
I’ve been travel to most of SE Asia. Its not their culture, to sleep around. Most of Asian culture based as Malay.
You can go to any conservative culture and find people sleeping around because it’s NORMAL behaviour! Even the religious police in Banda Aceh routinely break up couples trying to get some privacy on the beach there. People are still people and have emotional and sexual needs. Denying them this will certainly drive them crazy.
As long as there’s that understanding, I can stay friends with these women and let them enjoy their lives too. So there are no battles, nagging, lies, or arguments.
Doesn’t sound an interesting and colourful relationship to me….
so true. I hope Nay is handsome and rich enough all the time to have all these women keep around him 😉
haha…. I’m not offended. If women didn’t try to shoot down men all the time it would be unusual 😉 After all, you can’t sleep with all of us, and many men are undesirable.
Our capitalistic society tells me that I can’t have women in my life unless I buy certain clothes or have a certain car, or have a certain lifestyle or have lots of money. Of course I am told all of this because advertising executives want me to be happy to buy their useless junk, and they will use models and scantily clad women in advertisements to try and convince me of this.
Truth is, I’m not wealthy, I don’t have a car, and I live in a dump — yet I don’t feel as is I have any problem with women in my life at all. Spending money on women is like being an absent father who attempts to buy his children affection with expensive toys. Eventually the children love the toys more than the father, and is disrespected as a consequence — AND out of pocket. All the kids really wanted from Dad was a little time, love and affection — something that cost nothing and he had infinite amounts of.
@shawty
if you really want to read some western marriage horror stories, you should definitely spend some time reading nomarriage.com ! Not being from the USA I cannot vouch for its accuracy however, but it makes entertaining reading nonetheless.
Doesn’t sound an interesting and colourful relationship to me….
Well I know my relationships are interesting, and I don’t care if you don’t believe me because I’m experiencing them and you’re not.
*shrug*
If you talk about the westernized Patong girls, or Soy Cowboy girls, or Jakarta Blok M, etc, yes, you maybe right, they are likely LOVE to sleep around more than one guy. I don’t even have to ask around.
What offensive nonsense…A “Westernised Patong” girl indeed. So Western equals sleeping around does it? Seems some travel around with their eyes closed.
I’ve been travel to most of SE Asia. Its not their culture, to sleep around. Most of Asian culture based as Malay. Like in some part of Indonesia, Malaysia, Southern Thailand, and Phillipines. So its almost same, if i am not mistaken
If you want to apply that kind of silly generalisation then its amusing that the author has nominated the four destinations best known for sex tourism rather than morals and ethical living. Using the same kind of nonsense logic, one could say the cultures mentioned are very much into exploitation of women.
@ Nay
You can go to any conservative culture and find people sleeping around because it’s NORMAL behaviour! Even the religious police in Banda Aceh routinely break up couples trying to get some privacy on the beach there. People are still people and have emotional and sexual needs. Denying them this will certainly drive them crazy.
Now that’s what i call exaggerate things. You do think people did sex freely in Aceh? when the girls cant even show their hair? Are you very sure about that?
There are still places that hold on to certain norms and culture. Sorry, i dont believe what you said above.
Yes people do have needs, but its PEOPLE CHOICE to get married or not. I did say if you don’t want then don’t, BUT for me yes, i would love to had a guy that only for me.
I don’t share my underwear with other girls, why would i share that “thing” with others? its disgusting !!
@ Sobhana
farah is speaking on behalf of most of the insecure women out there, those who feel the need for a man’s approval and seek their promises of happiness. perhaps only then will they feel worthy of themselves. i on the other hand, wouldn’t mind the approval of like-minded men who love endlessly but understands as well that sometimes we can’t stand each other. lol
On the contrary, i do see woman who sleep around are unstable and don’t know what she really want. From a guy to another one. Like switching cellphones to a type to another, and never feel happy about it, or when other have it they will want that too-maybe for the rest of their life.
I never feel insecure, i know what i want and i had strong personality. I don’t need anyone to tell me what to do like to arrange marriage or what age i should married or with whom. If this is what you’re talking about. I am economically stable, and not depend to what so ever any men so far.
Being married wont take that away from you. I change my broken bulbs by my self, and tune up the car regularly without any bf involve, so… why do you think i am insecure because i want a marriage?
Its a choice so far i see it. And i choose to do things with someone that special together, but not because i can not do it my self. Its ridiculous thought for me.
Yes, i am talking about my self, its my own opinion 🙂 you got yours, so be it ! people had their own point of view about things.
@ shawty
@sobhana and nay
seems like match couple 🙂
I think they are…. that would be cute.
Wow!it becomes a long discussion with no end,i think.
Btw, I have same thought with farah.want to get married,it doesnt mean im depend on man n look for wealthy life.
I want to get married because i want to have family,with kids n husband,n live with just 1 man for the rest of my life.
N nay,thats ur opinion. me,my dad bought me doll,but i still love him more than my toys!
So if u dont want to buy ur gal things,even it is only a book (if she likes reading book) some time,it means u r ‘pelit ‘ like donald’s uncle.
omy good job refering to me in third person, you can always talk to me directly you know, i’m rite here! and stop being silly by pointing out the obvious, pretty sure everyone here knows through my very first post on this blog and would testify that it had said that i was inlove with nay (it was a joke though, you know) although, he seems like quite the charmer i must say. in any case, i was able to tell right away that he was more on the intellectual side combating most of the nonsense on here.
farah darling, i am terribly sorry for labeling you nsecure, it’s just you sound exactly like so many other women, so desperately trying to defend the choices they make. if you must know, it is confusing when you appear one way and say that you are actually the other. i just don’t know what to make of it, my apologies.
brian A – i have no objection to marriage, i think it is a beautiful thing, but i don’t necessarily think it is the only environment to raise children in, damning your soul to sexual commitment is never a good thing, that is why there are such things as open relationships.
@ sobhana
Sure no problem sweety.
I know precisely what type are you too Sobhana, and funny is, you are sound like what you are describing as: desperately trying to defend choices your self 🙂 i believe that’s what you do on your last comment.
I don’t know what your life looks like, so maybe living like a glam rock star suit your personality and happiness. So do it, be it. As`long as you are happy, its your choice.
That’s what everybody after anyway.
…remember… breathe !! Hehehehehe
Peace out ! Waktunya tidurrr… (bukan clubbing hunting bule! wakakakakaka)
ummm trully i am just trying to educate some people. i am an independent woman, i am not glamourous, i work in research 40 hours/week and pay my own bills, granted i live overseas. it’s downtime at the office at the moment.
wow, it seems that this comment page stretches until eternity, what a topic, everybody has something to say on this issue.
well, let’s drop mine, which for certain doesn’t resolve or end something in the ongoing discussion, albeit maybe a different yet unheard sound to add:
aku teko sby, tetapi i am of 100 % javanese descendent, you can tell by looking at me, i live for whole my life in belanda. recently i have been back to my birth country. i traced my family back in the mountains of jawa timur. during my stay i also dated an indonesian girl, javanese girl. i also have good contact with a indonesian girl from chinese descendent and one from balinese descendent. what i find most striking still, are the cultural differences, but since these are only nurture driven i cannot say these cultural differences blocked me in understanding the feelings of the other.
in belanda i also dated an indonesian girl, javanese again, also born in indonesia but brought up in belanda just as me. what about that, dating an indonesian girl who is raised in western europe? and what about londo girls dating me in belanda? or dating girls who are raised in belanda but have a father from indonesia and a mother from belanda, or the reversed. in any case, sometimes indonesian girls who were born and have grown up in indonesia see me on a complex level as a bule, partly because of my length i guess 1.82m, and of my body movements and the way in which i physically look at things, which all is more western i think while observing a lot of indonesians. also a great deal of my inability of speaking proper bahasa indonesia or bahasa jowo causes indonesian born and raised girls to often look at me as a bule. yet looking at my head and hearing my story, and for example seeing the pictures of a traditional kitchen of which the fire place is supplied by wood, they recognize me as one of their own. at one time a girl said to me that it’s strange i needed a visa, because i was born in indonesia and have relatives in indonesia.
anyway, i don’t really have a point to make, only questions to raise. it’s all a little theatre of gestures i think, i experienced myself dating bule girls on an emotional level not as essentially different in feelings than dating indonesian born and raised girls, or girls born in indonesia and raised in belanda, or girls who are half indonesian and half western.
.. one thing, it is true that indonesian born and raised girls have more questions about my money than my bule girls.. however my indonesian keluarga never talks about the uang subject..
@ Farah and Riniss
Would you be interested in THIS kind of marraige?:
You as the woman and provider must work for your whole life to support your husband who stays at home with your children. You return to full-time work as soon as you’ve finished breastfeeding in order to support your husband and children financially 100%. Your husband may work if he wants but he’s not obligated. He will most likely sacrifice his career to raise the kids, do the grocery shopping, prepare the meals, wash and iron the clothes, clean the house etc. If you divorce your husband, he keeps the children and the house, and you must pay your husband a percentage of your income ongoingly. If you fail to pay you could be facing a jail sentence.
How’s that sound?
If you fail to pay you could be facing a jail sentence.
That’s UK law for you ! 😀
support your husband and children financially 100%.
gezz I know an Indo woman in England that sadly just like you mention, that’s all because of love and the man turn become alcoholic hubby
@sobhana
Since u live overseas and if you have other passport/residency
I do believe SINGLE MOM is the best option..
in some countries SINGLE MOM is the best job ever with all the benefit from gov
*sight*
Now that’s what i call exaggerate things. You do think people did sex freely in Aceh? when the girls cant even show their hair? Are you very sure about that?
There are still places that hold on to certain norms and culture. Sorry, i dont believe what you said above.
Well, I’m not sure myself, but it seems the BBC did some reporting about it recently, so you may want to start believing it rather than pretending that it doesn’t happen.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8491195.stm
On the contrary, i do see woman who sleep around are unstable and don’t know what she really want. From a guy to another one. Like switching cellphones to a type to another, and never feel happy about it, or when other have it they will want that too-maybe for the rest of their life.
Well, just maybe, people don’t know what they really want or like unless they have significant EXPERIENCE to be able to decide what they do and don’t like!
Without significant experience, you can’t make good judgments!
It’s a “chicken and egg” problem.
Personally, I’m happy I had a lot of girlfriends so I now know what kind of women who I would consider marriage, and those who I would not. Otherwise I may have married the first woman I liked and be stuck in an unhappy relationship. Now I’m at a point in my life where I can choose wisely.
Yes people do have needs, but its PEOPLE CHOICE to get married or not. I did say if you don’t want then don’t, BUT for me yes, i would love to had a guy that only for me.
I’m all about defending a woman’s right to choose what to do with her life.
It’s just that I find it disturbing, that women with LITTLE TO NO experience with men feel as if they can pass judgments on people who HAVE the experience. It just makes these women seem bitter and somehow secretly jealous.
Unfortunately I know a few older Indonesian women for a long time who are like this. They endlessly moralized about no sex before marriage, stayed away from men out of fear, passed judgments on people hooking up outside of marriage, etc. etc….. and now these women are in their 50s, unmarried, unable to have children, and completely overlooked by men. Very nice women, but some very MESSED UP attitudes towards sex. They may have wanted to get married, and I can see where they failed, but they wouldn’t listen to reason.
… BUT, I still respect that they themselves had the freedom to make their own decisions in life. It just seems a shame, to me, that rather than educate themselves, they chose to stay ignorant and pretend they knew everything…. out of fear.
shorty, you are intellectually-challenged. i would choose freedom over money any day. no i’m not interested in becoming a citizen (a green-card is fine) i have property back home.
Nay said
The REAL issue for men who want to marry to have children and a happy family, is whether we as men could LIVE WITH a particular women and raise a family with them!
Islam provides the solution. Become a muslim and you are allowed to have 4 wives so you don’t have to LIVE WITH a particular woman.
Problem solved. Alhamdulillah.
Islam provides the solution. Become a muslim and you are allowed to have 4 wives so you don’t have to LIVE WITH a particular woman.
I don’t want to drag Islam into this (I think it gets WAAAY too much airtime in Indonesia as it is). Religion being the opiates of the masses, as it were.
I honestly don’t want to live with 4 women. It would be too much of a headache trying to treat them all fairly. I’d rather they contact me first whenever they need me, then I would schedule to meet them at a time of their choosing, and then let them go again when they are done. Then they would leave me alone the rest of the time to do other things that I want to do, or hang out with the other men or do things that would not interest them.
Actually, that method would make it easy to treat all 4 wives fairly. Essentially, it offloads the burden of equal treatment from me onto them. I become an at-call manwhore/servant, who promises to be available as best as I can manage.
In fact my love life already resembles something like this anyway…. and I don’t need any religion’s “permission” (hah!) to live how I, and the other women, want to live.
@ Max
Would you be interested in THIS kind of marraige?:
You as the woman and provider must work for your whole life to support your husband who stays at home with your children. You return to full-time work as soon as you’ve finished breastfeeding in order to support your husband and children financially 100%. Your husband may work if he wants but he’s not obligated. He will most likely sacrifice his career to raise the kids, do the grocery shopping, prepare the meals, wash and iron the clothes, clean the house etc. If you divorce your husband, he keeps the children and the house, and you must pay your husband a percentage of your income ongoingly. If you fail to pay you could be facing a jail sentence.
How’s that sound?
Are you talking about me marry a men or marry a woman? seriously it gross me out when i read what you said there.
Anyway, a men who can not bare a responsibility is not a men, why do i want to marry him anyway? I will look up someone whos equal, had a job, and allow me to work too.
Its a very stupid thing to marry the a guy as you said above. Sound like i am marry to a submissive slave who i could emasculate right the moment i sign the married paper. No way he could keep my kids for sure, what ever happened.
If i end up have to support my husband, i will make sure from very beginning he is worth it, that he is not a night club chipmunk dancer or gigolos, who had no brain, not educated. If i had to support him, i will made sure it is for a very good reason.
@ Nay
Well, just maybe, people don’t know what they really want or like unless they have significant EXPERIENCE to be able to decide what they do and don’t like!
Without significant experience, you can’t make good judgments!
So a doctor had to had experience hepatitis C or heart attack to know how to cure or avoid it? or a policemen have to be a murder to know the murderer profile?
You don’t have to switch couples as easy as u witch your cellphone. You could learn from your environment, from your friend experiences.
You don’t have to kiss all the frogs around the world to find the prince charming (yuck).
The Sharia police see themselves as the guardians of Islam in Aceh.
Decked out in military-style, olive-green uniforms and berets, they cruise the streets in their open-top vehicles, looking for anyone breaking Islamic law.
Their first stop is the beach. It is a popular destination for teenagers in Aceh at night.
A romantic ballad plays on the speakers, while young couples lounge on plastic chairs, in front of makeshift cafes.
Boys in their jeans and some girls in their jilbabs, eating corn on the cob and sipping Coca-Cola.
A picture of harmless, innocent adolescence.
But the party does not last long. The Sharia police are here – and they zero in on their first target. A young boy and girl, sitting too close to one another in the dark.
What happens next would be almost farcical if it was not so humiliating for those involved. The Sharia police surround the couple, demanding to see their identity cards
Oh Nay, i read your BBC page, i didn’t see anything wrong with eating corn in beach. Its just the islam rules not allowed unmarried couple sit together as Aceh doing strict islam syaria. What i see in Patong beach much worse than teenager eating corns ! Where is the SEX part??? i didn’t see they write the couple do the sex intercourse??
Go there, and take pictures of teenage girls wearing (ONLY) short on beach Nay, then i will believe u. You will be lucky if you find one, because they even banned tight jeans for girls.
Oh Nay, also, there are plenty in Indonesia, prostitute grow old, sadly have children or grandchildren have to burden the title of “whore children” for the rest of their life. Its not a good thing, i don’t like it either, but this society punishment still there, because there are still traditional norms and religious belief where free sex are not a common thing !!
@ Farah
If i had to support him, i will made sure it is for a very good reason.
You will do it for sure because he has a very sexy body. He is hot!..great in bed too..and you would be so proud to show off your beautiful spouse in front of the other ladies. 😉 You will get used to him spending hours getting ready to go out and he will spend your hard-earned money with abandon. Any money he makes he will keep to himself. Of course you will tolerate this because you know you have a hottie. If you don’t treat him right another woman will happily fill your place. He is always flirting with admirers. lol
Anyway, a men who can not bare a responsibility is not a men, why do i want to marry him anyway? I will look up someone whos equal, had a job, and allow me to work too.
Will you allow him to manage the money you earn with your work too?
Anyway, a men who can not bare a responsibility is not a men, why do i want to marry him anyway? I will look up someone whos equal, had a job, and allow me to work too.
Its a very stupid thing to marry the a guy as you said above. Sound like i am marry to a submissive slave who i could emasculate right the moment i sign the married paper. No way he could keep my kids for sure, what ever happened.
I find that it’s fairly normal for women to be dismissive and insulting towards men. The reason is purely a biological one and instinctual one.
Biologically, women are deemed “irreplacable”. One man can impregnate many women and continue the human race in this way…. but let us suppose that there are many men and only one woman. A woman only needs one man to get pregnant, and she is tied up with a baby for 9 months, so all the other men are therefore not needed for reproduction, and therefore useless and expendable. Only the best man will gain access, so she gets to choose.
The death of a young, beautiful woman is considered “tragic” whereas the death of a man, not so much. Women and children first!
It is for this reason that women are inherently picky when in comes to their choice of mate, insulting towards the majority of men whom they don’t consider worthy, and take better care of themselves than most men do. (To prove that, you just have to see how much money women spend on fashion, make up, etc.).
So here’s the woman’s dilemma. If women only need one man to get pregnant, and ALL women are going to choose more or less the same man…. (typically who has a “high rank” like a politician, celebrity, or pop idol typically) guess what happens?
That’s right…. that man has no need to get married or do ANYTHING that women tell him to, in order to be satisfied by women. In fact he may even treat some of them badly and they will still love him. The fact that women all talk in good terms about the same man just increases the competition for that man and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
So a woman who wants to marry a popular man who will treat her right is in for some trouble. She is going to have to fight it out with other women for his attention – and even if she succeeds, that man is not going to be interested in being with her only, and doing everything she tells him to, because he doesn’t have to and can always find other women who WILL.
(just look at Tiger Woods, for example. He cheats on his wife, and his wife STILL wants Tiger around! He’s too popular, and its too humiliating for her to be divorced from a popular man when there are other women who could EASILY replace her!)
Here’s the kicker. The kind of man that DOES *everything* that the woman humiliatingly demands of him, and who slaves away and trying to make her happy, is highly unpopular with women — which is why he does it. He has no other options…. and woman do not respect him, even after all his effort. So that man, having no luck with women in the first place, enters into a marriage hoping that through it, he can AT LEAST have a woman all to himself (to own her)… and of course, the woman does not really love or respect him (but she is going to be financially supported, so it’s like a job for her) and they end up in an unhappy/loveless/sexless marriage.
THAT particular kind of marriage verges on being prostitution…. except that the women keeps getting paid and doesn’t even have to continue having sex with the man!
So I’m not offended by women like Farah who have no respect for men they do not know (or who are not worshipped by society). It’s biologically normal for women to attack men like this, and that’s so they can find out whether he is “cad” or not.
It is essentially because of the above reasons, men and women have trouble hooking up. Otherwise we’d all have no problems.
So a doctor had to had experience hepatitis C or heart attack to know how to cure or avoid it? or a policemen have to be a murder to know the murderer profile?
Those are very poor analogies. I don’t see how either of these fields relate to one’s own personal experiences and desires with finding companionship.
I better idea would be to read about anthropology, ethology, and evolutionary biology (which I already have), however. They help answer a lot of the nagging questions you might have.
You don’t have to switch couples as easy as u witch your cellphone. You could learn from your environment, from your friend experiences.
Or you could learn BY YOURSELF within your environment…. which is what I’m saying!
Someone has to go first to learn these things, and personal relationships are, well, personal. You can’t really let other people do it for you. Maybe you can push your friends into going first or something… I don’t know.
Anyway Farah, seems like your method involves giving men a hard time to see who is weak enough to tolerate you. Popular men will ignore you for being too “high maintenance”, and unpopular men who are desperate to be with a woman and who will love and tolerate you,…. well, you will probably feel no attraction for them.
I think that puts you in a difficult position. Best of luck.
@ Max
You’re spot on.
@ Farah
Its a very stupid thing to marry the a guy as you said above. Sound like i am marry to a submissive slave who i could emasculate right the moment i sign the married paper.
On the contrary, you would be the slave, working away at your job with the resposibility to pay for everything. He may even demand that you pay for a maid to do all of the housework. How could he convince you to do that? Work it out, you’re an educated girl.
@ farah
However, if it was the way it normally is…with the woman provided for and the man providing…and the husband thought it TOTALLY unreasonable for his wife to request a maid…his decision would be final if she suggested a maid like this one.
@ all above
LOL ok guys, bring me the men then, ill be in jakarta next week.
Want to meet my future hubby slave !
Ohhh btw a slave husband can not have a slave, thats master rule. If he want to have that pembantu, its all right as long as he wear an iron locked chastity belt. When he clean the house he should do it half naked, no sitting on the furniture.
I pay him but he should even lick my feet and clean my boots when i walk in to the room, if not ill spank him good hahahahaha !
Its a beautiful life guys! btw gak sekali ini gue ketemu bule nyinyir kayak kalian !
@ET
In my family none of the men arrange the money matters, mostly at the end of the month sit together and counting bills etc. I will might do the same to my future family.
sobhana said:
shorty, you are intellectually-challenged.
Now that really did need to be said …. I was so close, but very happy I resisted the temptation. Phew!
@ .. LCVS-they like dating metro men aswell apparently.
@ .. Nay
The kind of man that DOES *everything* that the woman humiliatingly demands of him, and who slaves away and trying to make her happy, is highly unpopular with women
so true…different if the man is providing things which the woman really needs and appreciates. For a poor girl, maybe food for her family or money so she can buy a long awaited present for her kids, and constant friendship and contact. These things are important to her…But for a girl who is not poor…i dont know
so… many women dont like an easy man…because in my opinion it all about ‘staying power’ in a relationship. Man will have no problem with keeping a woman if deep down in the relationship there is something which will keep them together.
@swagman + sobhana
go easy, no one likes internet bullies. I know some single mum in my country and I do agree with ‘shawty’ on that
@ brian A
@swagman + sobhana
go easy, no one likes internet bullies
Ok boss
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@ Farah
so true. I hope Nay is handsome and rich enough all the time to have all these women keep around him 😉