Dating Indonesian women may not be for everyone.
Indonesian women, particularly on the island of Java, are exceptionally beautiful. They tend towards the very feminine side, with lovely skin, are not too tall, and have knock-out smiles. There’s plenty of plus on that side of things.
If wer’e to be honest we have to recognise that many men are interested in a woman who will take care of him, do the housework without complaint, and take care of other matters similarly without much bother. Your average Indonesian girl often fits the bill in this respect, certainly more than your average western woman, the less said about them the better.
On the other hand going out with Indonesian women in a romantic way can have many mysterious pitfalls.
Some women here are clearly only interested in money. Some men are unbothered by this. Others of the female variety, can, once we get to know them very well, come across as practically insane, hysterically emotional, scheming, over-possessive, inclined to, usually fake, attempts at self-harm in order to get their way. As I said, not for the faint-hearted.
There are a few Indonesia dating websites although the area is not nearly as developed as that in nearby Phillipines or Thailand. To begin your online journey on the Indonesian dating scene our very own “Meet” section has many a lady eager for company.
liatita
Good call, better stop now.
Farah
Thanks for your feedback. You and the others have given me enough comment to help me make a final decision what to do. Thanks.
come on maxie, farah put some good questions to you there…! ? so whats the final decision.. ..?
actually I do believe theres some educated women that dont want commitment either and just fun cos just she just young LOL haha
so next tips is…
recent graduated, just finished uni, tired, still in the search of work
can be maxie market segment
just my 2 cents
@ lialita
oh my goshh why this topic never end ???
people here are still interested
@ farah
why do you think none else than you could do the same until her graduation?
kitty cat may get a different serving but nothing quite tastes the same as me
she better be a VERY GOOD liar to tell that she is going to go to UK for vacation for 3 month only with a guy, and he is not her BF or her HUBBY. hehehe
that’s no problem cuz woman are all very good liars, she can just say I am her boyfriend (which I am)(whilst I’m around at least)
Have u tell those girls you are NOT INTERESTED in marriage or baby?????
yes i told them but they still pester me thinking they can change me. she’s just another twisted girl who thinks their level of EDUCATION relates DIRECTLY to how successful they are capitalising on their sexual power over men.
@ Shawty
thanks for being honest.
@ Brian
I’ve decided to just go alone on holiday. I’ll save a heap of cash. Au revoir kitty cat.
@ dear maxie
A chicken will be a chicken no matter how u will cook it, fried, roast boiled.. no difference. Its a primitive things, so why do you think it will be different with u maxie?
that’s no problem cuz woman are all very good liars, she can just say I am her boyfriend (which I am)(whilst I’m around at least)
…… and thats the reason why most politician are men, ot a woman? right? 😉
yes i told them but they still pester me thinking they can change me. she’s just another twisted girl who thinks their level of EDUCATION relates DIRECTLY to how successful they are capitalising on their sexual power over men.
so, they are not normal educated, they are twisted, not sure what they want, and not know to pick a guy to marry and had baby. u too
anyway bon voyage !!
The only reason why women are good at lying, and act irrationally at times, is because they HAVE TO in order to deal with the pressures society places on them.
On one hand, they’re told that they can’t be “sluts” and hook up with whatever guy they find appealing for whatever reason, and they’re told that they cannot “just give it away”… and that by doing whatever they want, they are being “selfish”.
So then, if a woman is not allowed to be with unmarried men (as if a simple ceremony changes someone fundamentally!), and she’s not allowed to “give it away” to “just anybody”… then she has only one discourse… and that’s the CHARGE money for it. When men see this, we call it out for what it is… it’s prostitution,.. and supposedly, that’s worse than being a slut! Not only will street prostitutes refuse a man love for not paying money, so too will one of these women “saving herself” for marriage who ALSO refuse a man love for not paying up! They do EXACTLY the same thing! It’s NO different!
So that basically leaves women in a catch-22 situation. Let’s face it… NO woman can live with this obvious contradiction! Women end up having to lie and equivocate, and play both sides of the fence. On one hand, they will always find ways to hook up with men that they really find attractive, and they will always manage to find ways of getting men who they don’t necessarily like to pay for them and get them things.
As a man, we are either seen as lovers, or providers. Depending on which side of the fence a woman places men in her life, a man gets told a different set of lies.
Any man who has been with a number of women eventually sees through the smoke and mirrors… so Farah, I have no idea why you are so bitter. Men like to sleep around, but then so do women! … and that’s OK! Women just have a bunch of lies and excuses which says that it’s not true. Thing is, a man who has been with enough women knows that it IS true! Just don’t get upset when men see through obvious nonsense!
Not only will street prostitutes refuse a man love for not paying money, so too will one of these women “saving herself” for marriage who ALSO refuse a man love for not paying up! They do EXACTLY the same thing! It’s NO different
Yes both will require sum of money…. but I thought married woman only sleep with a guy, and prostitute sleep with many men ?
Or does your wife sleep around with many men for money too? poor thing…
Men like to sleep around, but then so do women! … and that’s OK! Women just have a bunch of lies and excuses which says that it’s not true. Thing is, a man who has been with enough women knows that it IS true! Just don’t get upset when men see through obvious nonsense!
Look, if men sleep around or women sleep around go a head. Its people preferences. Woman had their sexual freedom in what? 1970es? or even older than than. But that western.
I can’t remember any of my aunts, or mom, or neighbour telling stories they’ve been sleep around during their single time (or my grandma?) Its Indonesia, Asia particulary… i don’t think its a normal thing for woman to sleep around. I just say things that i see, i hear around me, cause i live in indonesia.
But again, its the 20th century.. as people said… if they want to sleep around, go a head, but some people i think still do think its just not right. Beside that, maybe you just visit small part of indonesia where girls sleep around like men does.
About the lies, both sex did it, thats what i am trying to say !! not all men are saint doooh!
Sorry dont want to sound bitter, just had different point of view.
A chicken will be a chicken no matter how u will cook it, fried, roast boiled.. no difference.
Don’t like boiled. Much prefer to stuff, cook slowly and baste regularly …. makes it so moist and yummy …. 🙂
Don’t like boiled. Much prefer to stuff, cook slowly and baste regularly …. makes it so moist and yummy …. 🙂
What i mean by boiled is.. like when you put the chicken in to a soup.. its boiled.. right? hehehe.. made me hungry…
Much prefer to stuff, cook slowly and baste regularly …. makes it so moist and yummy ….
Do you mean chickens or chicks?
Do you mean chickens or chicks?
Ask Farah, I think she knows what it means. hehehe Try to be a good girl Farah and flirt only with your husband! Thanks.
Oh, and by the way, my crispy chicken wings are delicious. So thinks my kitty cat. She said it’s all in the special sauce. She’ll have to go back to boiled chicken in soup. That’s ok, we all need variety.
Oh, and another thing. Dear Farah, you think a chicken is a chicken no matter what. I ask you, where is the element of uniqueness? I guess all men are the same to you. I have a suggestion. Instead of you getting pregnant, just adopt, it’s less painful. I mean a baby is just a baby right? Why on earth would you care if they had a special blend of yourself and your husband? But make sure you have a girl. When I’m sixty I cud date her.
What i mean by boiled is.. like when you put the chicken in to a soup.. its boiled.. right? hehehe.. made me hungry…
Ahhh …. chicken soup …. the way to my heart Farah … a good cook is a much better reason to change religion, mutter some obscure mumbo-jumbo, have dick mutilated and get married … love is grand, but tasty food rules!
Instead of you getting pregnant, just adopt, it’s less painful. I mean a baby is just a baby right? Why on earth would you care if they had a special blend of yourself and your husband? But make sure you have a girl. When I’m sixty I cud date her.
ok ok … with that pearl of intellectual sarcasm, I am now thinking of taking the chicks’ side. To be fair, Farah did say: “Sorry dont want to sound bitter, just had different point of view.”
We should all at least make an effort to be nice.
When I’m sixty I cud date her.
Indeed. With these sort of plans I’d rather hope he doesn’t make it to 60…
With these sort of plans
I’m not planning, just aware of my options, that’s all
tasty food rules!
in all seriousness, you’ve hit the jackpot
We should all at least make an effort to be nice.
sometimes niceness isn’t called for. She called me twisted. I’ll take a different view then, I’ll take it as a compliment. I’ve twisted my way through the normal education system to find myself looking down on the established order. Part of that system is guys like you and the police stepping in to defend lying bitches who continue to get away with the shit they dish out. Misplaced chivalry is what it is. You are her defense. BS is defending his daughter. Swagman just wants his boiled chicken. Farah, make sure you are absolutely sure he waits until marriage before you reward him.
I can only hope Farah is happy with the choices she made, cause honestly, her point of view is exactly what it is HER point of view. Whatever a woman’s motivation is to hook-up with a man, it is her choice, so stop judging, thinking your norm is the only thing that should be valued. Society will always frown upon such behavior, sadly, so against all odds, only a strong woman can do whatever the hell she wants. Don’t hate.
@ Max
The only thing I was defending was politeness…. but thanks for your articulate interpretation of Freud’s theory of the unconscious mind and the defense mechanism of repression. Your scatter-gun attack on anyone that hurts your petty feelings is such a contribution to this forum.
@ Max
sometimes niceness isn’t called for. She called me twisted. I’ll take a different view then, I’ll take it as a compliment. I’ve twisted my way through the normal education system to find myself looking down on the established order.
Please read the comment with cold head first. I call your kitty cat twisted, NOT you. She is twisted because she don’t know what she want. Its just like she want to go to point A but she went to B direction to go to A, which is pretty twisted for me.
But now i am considering, yes, maybe you had those twisted mind too.
And it is my choice about the waiting. All i want is a loyal bf/hubby. If he did playing around while he is still single, i wont mind, will never want to even discuss it, as long as when he is with me as my boyfriend or husband, he JUST with me-no other girls and all of games he play just past, just want a normal loyal bf/hubby.
A loyal bf/hubby does deserve my reward-sure took time for him to prove that. I am pretty sure most other normal indonesia girls want this too.
@ sobhana
Yes i am happy with the choice 🙂 deceitful, easy guy, and a liar just a major turn off for me, so i keep my self for someone who could prove he could live and love one woman only. Its just a smart decision i guess.
@ maxie
Oh, and another thing. Dear Farah, you think a chicken is a chicken no matter what. I ask you, where is the element of uniqueness? I guess all men are the same to you. I have a suggestion. Instead of you getting pregnant, just adopt, it’s less painful. I mean a baby is just a baby right? Why on earth would you care if they had a special blend of yourself and your husband? But make sure you have a girl. When I’m sixty I cud date her.
Thanks also for the suggestion. Adopted or real child, i will make sure that girl will raised with very good education. She should know her root as a indonesia-malay girl, learn a little bit pencak silat as part of the traditional culture- its in her blood anyway.
She wont be dumb-submissive kitty cat, but a pretty sumatra tiger 😉 who know to use the fang and claws when needed….. miaawwwww !!
@max
I don’t know through what sort of education system you’ve twisted that you can now think so highly of yourself. Most smart and educated people I know are polite, quite modest and do not display such intellectual overshoot as you do.
I don’t have kids. I hope that when your theories are disproved your ego shrinks enough so that you can go through the door again and play outside with the other kids. Have fun.
I don’t know through what sort of education system
I think it just the nature of most British 😀 not all
The British empire was conquer approximately 20% part of the world and somehow some of them may still believe that they are bla bla than other
Thx God the last financial crisis may gave them wake up call a bit I guess lol
(random thought on sunny Sunday)…
Yes both will require sum of money…. but I thought married woman only sleep with a guy, and prostitute sleep with many men ?
You’re missing the point. The fact that a married woman supposedly only sleeps with one man is considered to warrant her higher price tag. In reality, a wife is nothing but a “high class” whore. In my mind there’s no reason why men and women can’t be good friends and agree to have children together without marriage.
Or does your wife sleep around with many men for money too? poor thing…
I’m one of these men that doesn’t need marriage. I don’t need to buy a wife, and quite frankly, I have no need to own one. The reason is basically a philosophical one (I don’t wish to treat women as slaves), but the fact that it works for me tells me something. I have numerous girlfriends, who come and go as they please, who I never fight, argue, or really stop seeing. Meanwhile, everyone else around me seems to have relationship problems.
..and I’m not jealous of the ladies having other men in their life. Truth be told, I can’t be with them all the time so of course they’re going to have to find other things to do or other people to see when I’m not around.
Married ladies are a peculiarity, but really no different to ordinary women deep down. Once a woman is married, she has finally “completed” society’s expectations of her to get married… so now she is finally free to find the men she really wants to hook up with!
I can’t remember any of my aunts, or mom, or neighbour telling stories they’ve been sleep around during their single time (or my grandma?) Its Indonesia, Asia particulary…
Well they certainly wouldn’t tell you if they did, right!?
And Asia is a lot bigger than Indonesia, and having traveled through most of it, I can say that women sleeping around is pretty much normal all through it. Indonesia included.
But again, its the 20th century.. as people said… if they want to sleep around, go a head, but some people i think still do think its just not right.
Sleeping around has been going on since time immemorial…. and it’s the 21st century actually, so it’s not a new thing. If having a single sexual partner for life was normal, we wouldn’t need to have marriage because it would be so obvious to warrant any sense of ceremony.
About the lies, both sex did it, thats what i am trying to say !! not all men are saint doooh!
For me, honesty has been the best policy. If asked, I tell women upfront what I’m all about, and if I don’t think they’re mature enough to have what I’m offering, then I let them go. I also have to accept that some women want to have differing relationships, and that’s OK, they can go for it. Typically those women are inexperienced when it comes to men anyway, so they have no idea what they’re trying to moralize about, and they stay that way until they’re lonely in their 50s, by which time no man cares to hear them out because their looks have faded and she’s STILL being impossible.
@ nay
You’re missing the point. The fact that a married woman supposedly only sleeps with one man is considered to warrant her higher price tag. In reality, a wife is nothing but a “high class” whore. In my mind there’s no reason why men and women can’t be good friends and agree to have children together without marriage.
Then i can’t see what the point of a bule looking for traditional woman in asia?
Why not do that with another caucasian woman? more modern, more up to one night stand? and less commitments? and careless about having children or even diapers (they will say ewwww gross !!)
Why so fuss about wanting dating Asian woman but don’t want to accept the cultures, beliefs, etc?
Well they certainly wouldn’t tell you if they did, right!?
And Asia is a lot bigger than Indonesia, and having traveled through most of it, I can say that women sleeping around is pretty much normal all through it. Indonesia included.
I’ve been travel to most of SE Asia. Its not their culture, to sleep around. Most of Asian culture based as Malay. Like in some part of Indonesia, Malaysia, Southern Thailand, and Phillipines. So its almost same, if i am not mistaken.
If you talk about the westernized Patong girls, or Soy Cowboy girls, or Jakarta Blok M, etc, yes, you maybe right, they are likely LOVE to sleep around more than one guy. I don’t even have to ask around.
There are still people or girls here had those old fashioned/traditional values. Still belief in a marriage institution, etc. Even in western i still heard people do wedding in church, in Vegas, etc. Its not just a party, not just ring exchange, not just for legalize the sex, for me its more to commitment between two person, a bond that perhaps will stay forever, my parent and my grand parent have more than 20 years of marriage, i just see how that will work for me too.
So i guess, like i said, its people preferences, if you don’t believe in marriage, then don’t do it, be a happy single forever like George Clooney 😉 and sleep around with pretty girls !
farah is speaking on behalf of most of the insecure women out there, those who feel the need for a man’s approval and seek their promises of happiness. perhaps only then will they feel worthy of themselves. i on the other hand, wouldn’t mind the approval of like-minded men who love endlessly but understands as well that sometimes we can’t stand each other. lol
SOBHANA…
farah is speaking on behalf of most of the insecure women out there, those who feel the need for a man’s approval and seek their promises of happiness. perhaps only then will they feel worthy of themselves. i on the other hand, wouldn’t mind the approval of like-minded men who love endlessly but understands as well that sometimes we can’t stand each other. lol
! lots of relationships between people who cant stand each other, there is no point in marriage or love endlessly if both people are getting involved sexually and emotionally with other people … when you say
who love endlessly but understands as well that sometimes we can’t stand each other
do you mean you would like a man who always love you but when you want to F*uk another man then you are allowed to do that by your partner?
If you are no more than boyfriend and girlfriend and not very serious then I agree, but when kids or marriage are involved, i think it that what farah is saying is very true.
families nowadays are less traditional than you think. don’t get me wrong, my parents loved each other and were together forever, that is until cancer took my mom away, and being the only child i received all the love in the world. unconditional love. is it perhaps the main reason of my selfishness? strangely enough, i decided a long time ago that i would never depend on a man for my happiness. so yea i’ll be fair and let him do the same. i wouldn’t mind being a single mother.
@Farah
Then i can’t see what the point of a bule looking for traditional woman in asia?
yeah these people are somehow too much, dating indo babe but…
@sobhana and nay
seems like match couple 🙂
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oh my goshh why this topic never end ???