Dating Indonesian Girls
Apr 4th, 2006, in Society, by PatungDating Indonesian women may not be for everyone.
Indonesian women, particularly on the island of Java, are exceptionally beautiful. They tend towards the very feminine side, with lovely skin, are not too tall, and have knock-out smiles. There’s plenty of plus on that side of things.
If wer’e to be honest we have to recognise that many men are interested in a woman who will take care of him, do the housework without complaint, and take care of other matters similarly without much bother. Your average Indonesian girl often fits the bill in this respect, certainly more than your average western woman, the less said about them the better.
On the other hand going out with Indonesian women in a romantic way can have many mysterious pitfalls.
Some women here are clearly only interested in money. Some men are unbothered by this. Others of the female variety, can, once we get to know them very well, come across as practically insane, hysterically emotional, scheming, over-possessive, inclined to, usually fake, attempts at self-harm in order to get their way. As I said, not for the faint-hearted.
There are a few Indonesia dating websites although the area is not nearly as developed as that in nearby Phillipines or Thailand. To begin your online journey on the Indonesian dating scene our very own “Meet” section has many a lady eager for company.
4,898 Comments on “Dating Indonesian Girls”
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Farah says:
@ Dyakulture
Farah said, jump !
and every body jumpFarah said wiggle your tail !
and every body wiggle their tail..is that how it work you think ? i don’t know i give so much influence on this website…ahhhh…
If i give my thought, of course i wont say it in the name of all indonesian, or all indonesian woman.
Like…”i speak in the name of all indonesian woman, leave us crazy bule !” ehhh.. i ever say that ? i ll sound more monkey ehhh….crazy than you mister.. hehehe.. i guess you should stop your drinking habit mister start something like juice will be better for your brain.
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one more thing…
So, the only question now is what are we going to call Indonesian’s using ’Farah’s’ iconic style. Well in your words ‘Farah’, we need something iconic, right? So, how about something close to Indonesians social cultural personality, behavior, facial characteristic and demure just for example….
So in your words it is oke for all “Bule’s” to call all Indonesian Women ‘Monkeys’, because referring to others by iconic racial branding is fine according to the ‘Farah’ ideology..
..i have my ideology ?!!! yaaayyy ! i am someone here ! yippie (doing rain dancing !) its a cool thing !
I learn western culture that’s why i could say all of this thing back to you now. Do you understand mister ?
If i am “being born into Indonesian Culture”
I would say; “yes mister, i am deserve being called what so ever, you right its my mistake, i am so sorry i wont do it anymore, i swear i will never made mistake and always FOLLOW the way you think, the way you speak”
(indonesian culture woman always obey, can’t say freely their opinion, or their thought, aren’t they? am i wrong ?).. -
Oigal says:
KB…”Lets get back to the thread dating Indonesian Thread Dating Indonesian Girls” (paraphrased)…
Yea but how many ways can you say…”ITS ALL GOOD”
Gotta feel bemused at the whingers and whiners, seriously Indonesia (much to my female relatives disgust) rightly or wrongly is a man’s paradise. As someone who has been kicking around these parts and since well moved on from the dating scene, can honestly say if you cannot find happiness with a partner here, you might has well donate yourself to science as a socially inept oddity.
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Patrick says:
Oigal says “….you might has well donate yourself to science as a socially inept oddity…..
When can the hospital I work at expect your kind donation? For your comfort we do have a psyche ward to accommodate your needs. LOL! hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi!!!!!!!!!!!
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ET says:
@ kiwibali
Foreigner got charged more than local, yeah thats bullshit. But looking it from a poor local eyes perpective….
Your name suggests that you are a (probably white) New Zealander.
Many times I ask myself what is wrong with whites that they always have to refer to locals here as poor? And even back up those by who they are merely treated as ATM machines. It must be some ingrained guilt complex with a religious undercurrent.
Look mate, these locals have everything a white could wish for, one of the places with the most natural riches, the most beautiful surroundings, the most developed cultural heritage in the entire world. The Dutch didn’t come here and tried to hold on to it for nothing.
With my apologies for those who are really poor with no outlook for a better future and those who are doing their best to make something out of it, but if you’re white and live here you should open your eyes and see what’s going on. It’s always easier to blame others and do nothing. Or tell the children to go begging: Misterrr, misterrr, I love you, give me money. -
dyakulture says:
@farah
Very simple – BULE is the contemporary taunt used by Indonesian’s for Caucasians, right! So, thanks to Farah who enlightened us that this is fine to use this type of nomenclature in Indonesia then conversely leading to the conclusion that likewise it is oke to refer to Indonesian Women as MONKEY – as a term of endearment, right?@kiwi Bali
What you talking about? You think using the term ’Bule’ is not racism? If not then what is it – enlighten us with your incredible insight?@lomboksurfer
Yes – well said… quite right too – stupid to get married to a MONKEY! -
Andy says:
Farah, I have been to Thailand and Malaysia and don’t remember ever being charged more to visit landmarks there. I can only remember seeing one price on the entrance to Petronas Towers etc. Places like temples were free. And the ferry from Phuket to the islands was the same for all unlike the Batam ferries where they clearly mark two different prices. Now when they say ‘but mister you have more money’ why doesn’t the Suharto family get charged more as well who have far more money than myself?
Yes ok the thread is about dating Indonesian women….One beef I have is when in Rome we must do as the romans do or risk a severe backlash from our wives / girlfriends for being ‘anti Indonesian’. So we wear all the shit which includes rats, chickens, open sewage drains, toilets which don’t flush, warm beer, annoying people generally who are not allowed to be criticised under any circumstances. I could go on but I don’t have the time or the space. Anyway that is ok, I lived with all this shit but WHY then must our wives complain daily about even the slightest inconvenience when they live in our countries? Do they transform into some Paris Hilton clone as they walk into the arrivals area at the airport? The rats are ok in Jakarta but the flies here are suddenly a huge annoyance and they run for cover. And our friends are allowed to be abused in a way noone can in Indonesia. See we are bules with no voice there but Indos here have all the rights anyone can dream of. But it doesn’t stop them being highly toxic to deal with.
If any guy wishes to have an Indonesian woman, be careful what you wish for. My advice is take a Filipina instead. Jealous but hospitable and kind. A better choice if you ask me.
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Lairedion says:
@Patrick,
ROTFL LMAO DFLTFH
@dyakulture,
Is your wanking and whinging hereditary or did you go to school for that?
You call me bule, therefore I call you monkey…sob…sob 😥 😥
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diego says:
Bules gangbanging indonesians.
Alert.
Let me find the red phone, direct line to AAB.
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ana says:
Wow, I started reading this topic again and man it’s spiceeey!
Dyakulture,
Your ‘monkey’ business is lame. Is it because things have gone so PC back in your own country? Is this your way of coping with burnout? Well, either all that, or you have a mission to perk people up a bit on this topic. If it’s the later, you cheeky monkey, you passed with flying colours 😉
From my observation, people have and always will, react over what they are called by others. ‘Some’, like yourself, don’t like being called ‘bule’ by some Indonesians or ‘pommies’ by ‘some’ Ozzies or Kiwis, or ‘ang mo’ (white trash) by ‘some’ Singaporeans. ‘Some’ Kiwis dislike being called ‘pakeha’ or ‘honki’ by Maoris. ‘Some’ people find it derogatory when ‘some’ British call Pakistani ‘paki’, Indian ‘punjab’, French ‘frogs’, Dutch ‘cloggie’, German ‘Kraut’, etc etc. Understanding the aetiology behind these terminologies however trivial or complex is beyond my scope as I try to avoid putting people in boxes. So for the purpose of clarity, what would you like to be called? White British? White Irish? White person of European descent? or quite simply… ‘others’?
As for Indonesian’s ‘inferiority syndrome’, I think some of us have had enough after a while… So see my face? Face = ‘Not bothered’. Am I bothered?
For example, travelling from anywhere to anywhere is a nightmare these days. Still, I cooperate with the discriminatory security measures I am subjected to at the airports when brandishing my Indonesian passport, despite having no desire to be a terrorist… armed with what? on board yoghurt? Baldrick’s underwear? no cunning plans on my part… The government has to look as if they’re doing something, so be it. They have a job to do, and I have mine.
Another example. As a health professional currently working in your country, myself and my multi-racial colleagues eat verbal abuse for breakfast and have been physically attacked MORE than once by patients, NOT because of our genders, skin colours or nationalities, but mainly because of their own issues/mental health problems.
I appreciate Kiwibali’s attempt to empathise, at least someone is willing to try to see it from a different perspective. I think that’s what most people reading this site are trying to do anyway, to read what others have to say and to learn from them.
Start cultivating, mate. You’ll see your problems are no greater than ours.
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kiwibali says:
@ ET
nah mate. Im a brown skin Balinese. Went to local public school in Bali up till high school, and was lucky enough to immigrate to Aotearoa.
@DK
Yeah in a sense Bule is a term used to identify caucasian. But is it outright a hostile race-based term?
– the other term would be to call ‘whites’ orang putih. But hey there’s four syllables in there. Why not save time and use two syllables word, Bule
– Yeah when Indonesians are called Bule (the ‘brown one’) they will get so angry because they are identified as a westerner. Someone who are of a lighter skin (of which having a lighter skin is still seen as a sign of beauty in Indonesia), Somewhat more well-off (Stereotype behavior? yes, still around coz they day of Dutch rule still fresh in some people memory) and therefore and somewhat more influential. Who wants to to be associated with that.
Maybe other parts of Indonesia, ‘Bule’ is a derogatory term but, in Bali its just a substitute for ‘white people’.@DK
how is calling a white person, Bule. is the same as calling an Indonesian monkeys? the use of the term monkey implied that Indonesian are animals.
Maybe you dont mind being affiliated with animals. But most people will find it offensive if they are put at the same group as an animal. the term Bule doesnt have animalist characteristic.You want to get back at the people who uses the term bule rather liberally? why dont just call em ‘fuscus’ (it’s latin word for brown). Im not saying its ok, but its why more acceptable than ouright calling a group of people as monkey!
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Bules gangbanging indonesians.
Alert.
Let me find the red phone, direct line to AAB
Mmmm I hope you are not including me in that and its just plain nasty to wish AAB on anyone. I just like picking on people like patrick (OK Cruel and easy but what can in say)
Although there are some monkeys here at the moments but that would be based on the intelligence (or lack of) the comments rather than race.
Bule is not a particulary nice term but has been alluded to more laziness and a lack of the PC revolution that has overtaken the western world. To suggest it is the same league as refering to someone as a Monkey is absurd. Personally if you find Bule offensive, I have found a reply (with a smile) with the term “chocolate” clearly demonstrates that you don’t like the term and is normally accepted in good humour.
Patrick said..
When can the hospital I work at expect your kind donation? For your comfort we do have a psyche ward to accommodate your needs. LOL! hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi!!!!!!!!!!
Always scary when the god botherers working anywhere near health facilities. Seems to demonstrate a lack of conviction in the all powerful mommy in the sky. But thanks for your productive comment.. lol..All my friends are real not imaginary so I will pass on your offer.
Ana.. I agree with the vast majority of what you say but surely you cannot deny that certian nations have higher risk profile than others, even if it just by numbers. For instance this site clearly demonstrates that “bule” (tee hee) nations have nutters but just forfun lets assume that Australia has 1% total nutters and Indonesia has 1%. …where does that leave the risk profile (assuming a relative population of 26Million and 226Million).
Andy..Feel sorry for you, you really missed some good things in life
Back to the thread…Its all good!
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This kind “debate” on the term bule (or gweilo…, or gringo) is something that we can expect to come up from time to time.
I’m just watching and waiting for good moment to join the fight. 😀
Where’s AAB?
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Orang-aus says:
Hi All,
Have had a good read and thought I would comment. A few have commented on visa issues with western countries, hard for Indonesians to travel there and blame that country. Nothing could be further than the truth.
All countries have immigration treaties and agreements regarding visas with other countries and this will then be a factor in how easy or hard it is for a person to cross international borders. The Indonesian government has limited agreements regarding travel with other countries, in fact Indonesians have limited visa free travel on a world scale because the government there has not arranged formal travel treaties etc with other countries.
To say western countries refuse entry or make it hard because they want to pick on Indonesians is wrong. The cuprit is your government, not the west. If the Indonesian government sort further agreements, introduced biometric passports travel would be a whole lot easier for the people of Indonesia.
I work in this area and also have an Indonesian fiance who has never had an issue on getting a visa or entering my country, Australia. If fact she can get a longer stay as a tourist in Australia than I can get in Indonesia!!! When coming here we complete the paperwork and submit what’s required, its quite easy. I will note she was arrested at the airport in Malaysia (Asian country) and deported back to Indonesia because they believed she was an illegal worker, we were on holiday there.
This has never happened when entering Australia, she has never even had her bag searched!!! The spouse visa arrangment for her to live in Australia is long but achievable, she can get visa to stay here and then after 2 years an Australian passport. For me to stay in Indonesia as a spouse or husband is a real headache and must leave when visa expires and re-apply outside again and the wait is 10 years for male spouse to get Indonesian passport!!!!
Did a mention the dual passport thing!!
Cheers
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crocketman says:
Take a look at googling “Third Culture Kids” (aka TCK)
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Culture_Kids
Obviously & ultimately beyond the dating phase are the kids – and the world needs a LOT more TCK’s that’s for sure.
Malaysia is a media BS spout about being a ‘multiracial’ society – but what it does not spout is the hard fixed lines between the races, and has near zero intermixed marriages between them.
Similarities to I’sia are of the Indo-Chinese and very low marriages outside thier own kind. I’d guess that the are more Indo-Chinese marriages nowadays to foreigners than to other races inside I’sia.
Exogamy !!
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Cukurungan says:
Anyway that is ok, I lived with all this shit but WHY then must our wives complain daily about even the slightest inconvenience when they live in our countries?
Friend I would like to give you advice as man to another man, I tell you that if you are only “BULE KERE” think twice before you pick Indonesia Woman for your wife because the reason for most of Indonesia women engage with the Bule is to up-grade her fate, if she get married with bule but they have to life like another “KERE”, I do not think your marriage will be survive.
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@ DK
caucasiasn and monkey… caucasian= white/putih and not always means bad (indonesia like being white.. do you know that?? go to beauty kiosks, or ask your ex indo gf does she like to be WHITE ??).
And you refer me (indonesian women) to monkey ? monkey/monyet which is animal ? are you IDIOT or what???What if i call you PIG ?? because actually if i (if FARAH) want to generalize caucasian, which who YOU are, PIG is an ANIMAL is the closest one! especially from the way you think and talk, and the way you behave. Made mess here and there, and so on.
oink… oink…@Andy
Reclining budha, i went there, and there’s two lines, and ticket both right on your lleft side from the entrance. When 2001 at bakauheni ferry harbour me and 4 caucasian student went to jakarta, and have same ticket just like me. But sure i know what all of expat trying to say here.What i am trying to “communicate” here is…. if you had those experience pay more in indonesia, don’t you ever had same experience in any other countries around the world ? try to google and read more about “tourist trap” in other countries, you will find this kind of trouble around the world. Mexico maybe ? thailand ? malaysia? philipines? india?
There always be some people who try to fool you and over charge you.
Doesn’t meant all people on that country have same mentality !!
@ Ana
From my observation, people have and always will, react over what they are called by others. ‘Some’, like yourself, don’t like being called ‘bule’ by some Indonesians or ‘pommies’ by ’some’ Ozzies or Kiwis, or ‘ang mo’ (white trash) by ’some’ Singaporeans. ‘Some’ Kiwis dislike being called ‘pakeha’ or ‘honki’ by Maoris. ‘Some’ people find it derogatory when ’some’ British call Pakistani ‘paki’, Indian ‘punjab’, French ‘frogs’, Dutch ‘cloggie’, German ‘Kraut’, etc etc. Understanding the aetiology behind these terminologies however trivial or complex is beyond my scope as I try to avoid putting people in boxes. So for the purpose of clarity, what would you like to be called? White British? White Irish? White person of European descent? or quite simply… ‘others’?
add… expat, orang barat/westerner, mister, londo, albino maybe? (these all used by most people i know) so there will be more choice for him!
Or maybe everywhere he should hang his name on a card boar around his neck so people will call him with his very own name ! (Mr DK welcome to indonesia !).
@ orang-aust
To say western countries refuse entry or make it hard because they want to pick on Indonesians is wrong. The cuprit is your government, not the west. If the Indonesian government sort further agreements, introduced biometric passports travel would be a whole lot easier for the people of Indonesia.
I work in this area and also have an Indonesian fiance who has never had an issue on getting a visa or entering my country, Australia. If fact she can get a longer stay as a tourist in Australia than I can get in Indonesia!!! When coming here we complete the paperwork and submit what’s required, its quite easy. I will note she was arrested at the airport in Malaysia (Asian country) and deported back to Indonesia because they believed she was an illegal worker, we were on holiday there.
Hmm… yeah.. lets blame this to indonesia government…
..just heard rumors then…. rather than the truth that before 9/11 it was easier for Indonesian to get visa to Australia and USA ?… ic… ic
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Pages here sadly continue with many varying degree’s of all too often biased, unbased, unstudied arguements, and all too often many a script are way off topic.
I just might get interested if there’s any postive banter with tips of good places to meet girls, and onwards to tips of do’s and do not’s. All too many foriegners do not know where to go and end up at red light type nite clubs. Obviously this is of their own making – but there well may be a few here that can figure out some other ways of meeting with suggestions – esp coming from some of the Indonesian ladies on here.
A few of my own tips are:
Good cities to meet girls, to name only 2 here: Bandung and Manado. For sure all over Indonesia there are many cities and villages – these are 2 places though where there is more of an international scene (besides JKT). And both are not so large and hard to figure out like JKT which is labrinth not only streets & traffic but also in where to go). Bandung has a great music scene and many music groups that play all over Indonesia (and some outside Indonesia) are often from Bandung. Manado is a journey but for those who like the ocean – it’s a paradise (of course not downtown Manado). And since it’s not on such a well beaten path – hotels and other expenses there can offset the expense of the flight ticket – meaning – Manado has many places that are great value for money – but does take study and asking around to figure out.
Good places to meet girls (besides bars & nite clubs) can be the girls working at the hotels, travel agents, banks, good resturants, good spa’s. The list goes on – and I hope others here will add to this. The main point is that the guy cannot expect “anything to happen overnight” in contexts of that phrase.
To find that someone who likes you for you – is going to take some effort and study, and with a good bit of patience.
For the instant gratification – well then go to the bar or nite club – and while there do not expect to find a girl that is on the even keel and someone who you can get close to having a good ongoing conversation with outside of the bedsheets. Yes I know there are a few in the bars that are the ‘good’ girls – all I can say is good luck while gambling. Likewise for the girls – do not expect to find the guy in a bar that will lead to a good relationship – there again – all I can say is good luck while gambling.
I know there is going to be banter about the money element – and hopefully that does not again become a a long dilema debate of over-simplicities.
Both (the guy and the girl) need to figure out how flexible and forgiving each other is – and if each has all kinds of rigid and is not flexible – well that’s not exactly a good foundation for the inevitable earthquake shakes – esp so much moreso in a mixed relationship.
BTW – I am hoping for some positve banter about this and “Third Culture Kids”. But my hopes are not very high – seeing the pages here over the few months.
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Farah our little chocolate fighter… 🙂
Best regards from an off colour bule -
And to bring this thread back on track..Dating Indonesian Girls with due regard to the advice provided
Ayo Farah..Aku suka chocolate mannis ya..mau main dgn bule sama saya bukan lama sebentar aja
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Achmad Sudarsono says:
I officially take my hat off to Pak Oigal for patience in the face of ongoing stupidity, including my own. : P
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timdog says:
Some things will never change; the sun will always rise in the east; racism will always exist in every country, and the “dating Indonesian girls” thread will continue to lumber along like a great, bloated buffalo…
@ET – delighted to be quoted; I can’t remember what thread it was that that extract came from, but I’m pretty sure that the crux of the debate was the nature of Australian racism. If you go back to it you’ll probably find what I have to say about Australian racism…
@Andy – still at it mister? Gosh, how happy I am not to be born down by the enormous weight of the chip that you carry on your shoulder.
Do I like double-charging policies? No, naturally I don’t. By the way, you’ll also find the same pratice in India – it’s actually much worse in India than in Indonesia (but then, generally, everything that’s “bad” in Indonesia is much worse in India). There, until quite recently, foreigners paid an officially inflated fare even on all domestic air transport, despite the obvious fact that the only Indians using aeroplanes to get around were far better off than the average scruffy backpacker (air deregulation has, mercifully, done away with this rule, but vastly inflated foreigners fees remain on monuments, museums and the like). You’ll find the same thing in Nepal, Morocco, Egypt, Jordan and doubtless many, many other places. Try Vietnam, where vastly inflated foreigners fees – both officially sanctioned and otherwise – are absolutely endemic, far worse than Indonesia, and without even any mitigating good humour.
BUT – three things:one: it’s irksome, and at times unjust, but not enough to whip yourself into a state of furiously embittered hatred (and I reiterate, it has long been apparent that the fact that you have such a huge problem with Indonesia has a great deal to do with the fact that when you first arrived there – and probably until now – your experience of the world was pretty much limitted to Bigottsville NSW or wherever it is that you crawled out of. All of the things that you seem to think are uniquely awful about Indonesia are a) not that awful, and b) by no means unique to Indonesia).
two: by showing a KITAS, and thereby indicating that, in theory at least, you might be living within the ecconomic framework of Indonesia, like an “Indonesian” rather than like a dollar-loaded “westerner” (that the average oily KITAS-toting ex-pat generally has far more cash than the average tourist visa backpacker is besides the point), you get to get to enter Borobudur, Prambanan and all those other places for the same price as the local Indonesians – so whatthefricksyaproblem mister?
and three: Indonesians are forever ripping off other Indonesians, especially ones who look like they might be rich and/or from out of town. Indonesians from other parts of the country holidaying in Bali, Lombok or Yogya often complain about how they got stung buy a becak driver/taxi driver/travel agent – it doesn’t just happen to you white-boy…
@Oigal – like Mas Achmad, I too take off my hat to you sir… well done…
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Farah,
I’m not blaming anyone, just stating fact, agreements between countries allow for easier travel and visa availability. Please note that Malaysia is an islamic country, not secular like Indonesia and Malaysians do not require a visa to enter Australia. Its not post 9/11, its a travel agreement between two countries.
Alot of this information is available online. Please note, both the Indonesian and Australian governments just signed a MOU regarding free travel for university students. Its an agreement between countries not a racial thing. Get a tourism one in place and electronic visas done on line for all Indonesian tourists!!!
The major difference that has taken place post 9/11 is more stringent security checks at border posts and more screening of visa applicants. This is not done via race or religion, all countries are screened the same, I know I do it for a living!!!!
Keep safe and keep on travelling!!!
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Berlian Biru says:
the reason for most of Indonesia women engage with the Bule is to up-grade her fate,
And how would this make Indonesian women different from women in every other country in planet Earth?
Women, intelligent women, generally marry men who can make their lives better in some way, it’s perfectly normal human behaviour and is the most sensible basis for women choosing husbands.
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the reason for most of Indonesia women engage with the Bule is to up-grade her fate,
Actually some people in my extended family would also say something along that line…: memperbaiki keturunan (mejorar la raza)…. How do you say that in engrish? Improving the race?
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@crocketmat
“Good Cities to meet women…” – are you totally brain dead… it is easy just walk down any street in Indonesia and you can pick-up a monkey with thrush ridden pants (you never check on medical sites about indo women and the humidity problem?) If that is what you like – ‘thrush’ in your pants then by all means go for it…
@ana
yep – interesting to read your experiences but now we should use PC terms so we not offending the sad little children reading this site…?the point as you know well am sure – it is not clear enough obviously for readers of this feed all too many indo women set-out to use magic and take Bules for a ride so why not just call indo women monkey and be done with it! At least nubile dumb Bules will be able to get a clearer picture of what it is like in Indonesia, right! So what is so wrong with that – being straight, something Indonesians find so hard to be… with everything reversed… hell would be a better description, right… You know it already so why lie to me?
It will be clear for anyone viewing – this site is full of Monkey’s and pig’s – a clear illustration of Indonesian Culture, right?
So have you been attacked in this country you mention by patients – where they from Africa?
By the way – when are you going back to your “own” country?
@farah
oke – call all bules ‘PIG’… good then everyone will know what indo women are really like – talk straight and say what you mean instead of hiding behind your pasted powdered FACE for once in your little waste of planetary space!@kiwi Bali
Do you live in a Cave or in the real world? If so go make a wood fire, sit next to it for a while and set light to your hair since is obviously so long! -
@DumadiSatrio
are you totally possessed by SATAN – you know your Culture has electricity supplied with upside down feeds, backward words, backward names… do i need to go on?
So what you trying to say? If this helps ‘I AM THE LIGHT’.. go into the light… open your mind and walk into the light… idiot!
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timdog, I just knew you would come crawling out of your hole as soon as I posted something here and you didn’t let me down. Thank you!
Bigottsville NSW? Never heard of it. Actually I come from multicultural Melbourne where here in the northern suburbs you can see almost as many jilbabs as you can in Jakarta. You my friend do have an enormous chip on your shoulder but not with Indonesia but with me and Australia in general. Yes I remembered that thread you wrote which was quoted here by ET. You are indeed correct about every country being racist. It is the level of racism that is the issue really. You can’t seriously sit there with a straight face and say oz is as racist as Indo surely. If you can i’d worry you are AAB with a different name. India may well be more racist, I haven’t been there myself but have travelled through most SE Asian countries and didn’t find racism as bad elsewhere even in Islamic Malaysia. And Orang Aus is quite right about the visa system. Malaysia and Australia have a reciprical arrangement where neither requires a visa to enter either’s country. Which is fair as it wasn’t the Malaysians who blew up our embassy or 100 of our fellow citizens in Bali was it. Good day sport!
Farah i’m sorry if you have trouble entering other countries but the above incidents as well as the unrest which seems to feature in Indonesia’s history may well explain why it is difficult for Indonesians to enter the west. It is not only Indonesians but fair to say in our region at least they have had more than their share of rogue elements which we’d like to avoid. Most western countries already have enough toruble of their own without importing more of it.
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allright,
I think it’s time for me to step in.
@dyakulture: white trash. what’s up with you, can’t get meth?
@andy:
Which is fair as it wasn’t the Malaysians who blew up our embassy or 100 of our fellow citizens in Bali was it. Good day sport!
another uninformed white trash. it was malaysian, i mean dead malaysian azhahari, who masterminded the terrorist strikes. azhahari, nordin mohd. top, only to name a few, they’re all malaysians.
so, maybe you should spend less on meth, and more on education.
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