Dating Indonesian Girls
Apr 4th, 2006, in Society, by PatungDating Indonesian women may not be for everyone.
Indonesian women, particularly on the island of Java, are exceptionally beautiful. They tend towards the very feminine side, with lovely skin, are not too tall, and have knock-out smiles. There’s plenty of plus on that side of things.
If wer’e to be honest we have to recognise that many men are interested in a woman who will take care of him, do the housework without complaint, and take care of other matters similarly without much bother. Your average Indonesian girl often fits the bill in this respect, certainly more than your average western woman, the less said about them the better.
On the other hand going out with Indonesian women in a romantic way can have many mysterious pitfalls.
Some women here are clearly only interested in money. Some men are unbothered by this. Others of the female variety, can, once we get to know them very well, come across as practically insane, hysterically emotional, scheming, over-possessive, inclined to, usually fake, attempts at self-harm in order to get their way. As I said, not for the faint-hearted.
There are a few Indonesia dating websites although the area is not nearly as developed as that in nearby Phillipines or Thailand. To begin your online journey on the Indonesian dating scene our very own “Meet” section has many a lady eager for company.
4,898 Comments on “Dating Indonesian Girls”
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Lairedion says:
Joao,
How about Leviticus 24:16
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.
This is a good website where Bible and Qur’an are compared to one another in terms of cruelty:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/bible_quran.htmlBy the way is Esperança your real name? I like it a lot.
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dewaratugedeanom says:
To elaborate further on Aluang Anak Bayang’s curse.
and probably had curse put on me by heartbroken girlfriends
Here in Bali one has to be very careful not to become a victim of the infamous guna-guna (black love magic). If you come here I advise you to always check your comb for loose hairs and to flush your nail-clippings immediately down the toilet because all of this can be turned into powerful weapons if it falls into the wrong hands.
I once had a pembantu, a girl from Karangasem, who was into this kind of thing. Later I found out that the bitch was a sisya, an apprentice leyak (witch). She secretly collected the above items (and who knows what other bodily ‘belongings’ of mine), then used them for the construction of a bebai – some kind of a voodoo-doll – on which she performed all kinds of unspeakably ‘weird’ rituals to make me succumb to her desires.
I tried to resist, but in vain.
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Hi Jen,
I’m no expert on men but my wife certainly can appreciate Swedish men. I can give you some advice here on Europeans (beware of the generalizations I make).
1. If you’re looking for plain, natural white men committed to gender equity and untroubled by a recent burden of colonialism go for the Scandinavians.
2. If you’re looking for serious average white men go for the Swiss, Austrians or Germans, although they can be somewhat too serious and sometimes are lacking sense of humor.
3. If you’re looking for stylish well-dressed men enjoying joie de vivre go for the French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italians or Greeks, although they can be somewhat macho and xenofobic (especially the French, Spanish and Italians).
4. If you’re looking for narrow-minded racist but hard working underpaid men go for the Slavs (Poles, Russians, Czechs, Slovaks, Ukrainians). This is not necessarily their fault, they’re still overcoming decades of totalitarian red rule.
5. If you’re looking for not to handsome, sometimes stubborn but friendly men with a great sense of humor go for the Celts (Scots, Welsh or Irish).
6. If you’re looking for ugly, rude, aggressive and violent alcoholics with old-fashioned clothing and an appetite for lukewarm beers go for the English.The south Slavs (Croats, Serbs, Montenegrins) tend to be a mix of 3 and 4 while some Serbs have no trouble to whack somebody for € 10,-.
The Dutch are really a kind of their own and have some of the characteristics of all points I mentioned and that makes them true Europeans.
If you’re looking for the best of both worlds then go for a guy like me (mixed Western-Indo)… 🙂
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Aluang Anak Bayang says:
Those ex-lovers I spoke about were Bules. They might be emotionally charged when I was caught red-handed, but all would be forgiven and forgotten after a short period of time. Many are now decent wives or mothers. The worst ex-lovers were Asians. Many became enemies for life. A few tried to commit suicide and haunt me as ghost, another faked pregnancy, one had her parents and her powerful uncles met my parents to arrange marriage. At some stage in my life, I was constantly looking over my shoulders. I was certain I would meet an untimely death cut short by jilted lovers. Looking back, I don’t really need 70 celestial virgins afterlife; even now I can easily pick up any ladies I wanted. My taste had changed over the years. I used to go for bombshell with devil body, now I prefer middle-aged sophisticated business woman type, of course with hourglass body shape.
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Farah says:
@Sunny
Wow… things are getting bigger here. My internet also down. Hope you could finally meet and things are went smoothly, for you had such good intention to start a new life.@ Mark
Yes i re check again from several books. Theres differences from stories that i read. Some said she was married him when she was 8 but then they didn’t do husband and wife relationship until they move to medinnah it was 2 years after that, and after they said she understand about responsibility of being adult woman.
Some said she was married with him at age 16 and then be a real husband and wife at age 19. So the point is, he didn’t touch her on the first 2 years of his marriage with her. Not until she is ready.
Some even said younger age, at 6 years old but also the same, he didn’t see her until 2 years after he went to medinnah (for hijrah).
He married her because her father want it, not because Muhammad being a pedophiles and have sex urge on her. She actually already engaged with a man name Jober Ibn Al Moteam Ibn Oday. Beside don’t you know she is the only “virgin” that she married ? while if he’s really as bad as you made him sound.. he could have any girl that he want, he’s the prophet !
And for your information my grandma married at age 19, and it was something at 1950es.
So back then.. i realize that could possibly happened that you married a girl that for now counted as “under age”
As the fact, these years girls had their first period over 13 years old.. back then.. 6-8 years old could had their first period in some SE countries first period (menstruation) counted as a mature sign of a woman, and they were ready to had husband and children.This is just a thought from me.
I never like patriarchies in Indonesia family too. But i consider my self lucky cause i had parent from quite different culture. My dad family had this strong patriarchies cultures, but my mom comes from different cultures where woman rules, made decision, and work. Its almost like west sumatra cultures, where even woman who “buy” man for marriage. So i had balance life in my family. I don’t want to be superior or being a door mat in a relationship.
In office yes i would seek equality, but in a relationship, even though i am independent, yet strong enough to depend and protect my self, i still had this need to be protected and company as equal partner. Somehow, had relationship with a man could balance a woman life. Not hate them but couldn’t life without ’em.
Being
Look i never want to corner anyone in here. Local guys, or expat, or white guys. As i said before, like it or not bule or expats is part of Indonesia. Some are jerks some are nice. Some come just for fun, some help us indonesian get smarter, and give knowledges (good or bad depend on the Indonesian).
Some locals too, good and bad. Some that educated is more polite and less educated more sarcastic sometimes. They just don’t know how to what.. in every situation. Same with white guys or expats, not all come to indonesia are educated, some redneck that comes here also had those jerk minds.. well in indonesia they were free as we don’t have those legal laws to throw them to jail for insulting a girls, they can’t do that back in their country.Its human being some are good some are bad. White, brown, black, what ever their colors is they’re all same evil and no evil.
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Jen says:
Hi Lairedion,
It’s so funny reading your male point of view bout European guys. They surely are stereotypes, but let me compared those to my personal experiences:
– French guys were the most real gentlemen I ever knew. I heard bad things about them, but the one I met smelled really good (it’s true!), he spoke in a soft tone, did stuff like opening the door for you, listening to what you say, n very gentle in bed (it’s not necessarily bad but might be boring after a while, well, dunno, didn’t stick for that long to find out). And the fact that they know how to dress was a bonus. Sometimes I even got suggestions about fashion, what was ‘in’ or ‘out’. The down side was, when he came to visit me here, girls would be all over him (maybe this type of guys is rare in Jkt hehe) and they wouldn’t care if he was with a gf or not.
– There was an Italian guy I knew, but he reminded me so much bout the males of my origin. The bonding to the mother was more than expected, I was afraid there would be some sort of competition between me and the mother (and this happens to every married female in my family, only they aren’t Italian). Tho he was nice and all (and man, he could cook and I mean real food, not just heated frozen pizza in microwave and cooked instand noodle-very different to Indoneesian males I knew), I’d have to pass. Too bad, because his Italian language and the way he moved his hands while talking was a major turn on for me.
– I knew a Russian guy. He was nice, and polite, and got lotsa patient, but we were in our early twenties and he already said things about getting married and wanted me to take care of the house and our 5 children. Hmmm…
– The Welsh, well, I didn’t understand what they were talking about. But my first love was a Scottish guy, who was perfect (of course, everyone was perfect till U got to know ’em better), but he was my English teacher. Hehe. So I just admired him from far far away and tried to get his attention by being the best student (well, to get attention from the teacher you could be either the best or the worst one) in his class. I was only 14 or something. So while people on the other side of the world were busy having sex at that age, I was busy learning English 😛
– This is my fave part, talking bout the Dutch. I never date any of them, because I think they speak like they were going to spit or something, I was afraid what they might do when they kiss me. Nah, just joking. My grandparents were products of Dutch collonialism (I dunno if it’s true or not, but my parents always brag about their parents being so strict and all). So I had to wake up at 5 am at the latest everyday since I was 4 or something to pray together, did some house chores before leaving for school, studied from 6 to 10 pm every nite, no tvs, and all the disciplines which make me feel I was in an internment/concentration camp. So Dutch people reminded me too much of my tall, cold, and never smiled grandpa. Hmmm… now that I’m thinking actually my other grandpa was the opposite, but he didn’t impress me much I think. Hehehe. So I think I was corrupted by the thought of Dutch people being controlled freak bout everything. I need a more relax guy, that I’m all about schedules and arrangements if you know what I mean.
– Last but not least, the half breed (half Indonesian and half other nationality, and please, if this term is considered as an insult, I really don’t know, because this is what I got in my English class, from my English native speaker) I know, they’re ok as long I don’t cross the line from being friends to becoming lovers. They care too much of how they look, they won’t pass a mirror without stopping and check on their appearances, almost like having a female bfs. And money matters, cuz they love having fun and spending big cash on branded stuff and fancy restos. But hey, they’re fun to be with.
But again, it’s just my personal experiences. One guy had got me pregnant and left me with the kid for me to support all by myself (plus all the bad talking from the people for me getting pregnant without a husband), and I swore to myself that I’d never ever again dating an American (cuz there where the father of my daughter is from), yet, I always end up dating Americans because most of the time they’re nice, and humble, not so complicated and simply because they speak English which I can understand alrite. And when things don’t go the way we expect, we talk like 2 adults and solve things and still can be friends, not like some people I know but that’s another story.
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Assalamualaikum mbak Farah
The authentic sources stated that Aisha was 6 when married to our beloved prophet; the marriage was consumed 3 years leter. Most muslim scholars also argued that Aisha was madly in love with our beloved prophet. You can’t argue that this was the norm of backward Arab society (not Asian); saying so is blasphemous because Allah swt sent down Prophet Mohammad saw as a model for all mankind to follow. Hence in the past, present and future, it is halal to for a man as old as 70 or 80 to fall in love with a pre-teen girl and wait 2 or 3 years to have sex. You don’t have to respond to Mark, he is jealous that we have Allah swt on our side.
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Yoww says:
Hi all,
I am a 29 year old female,Indonesian. I’ve been spending sometime on a few online dating sites.
Think I might need some insights from others.
I know a European white guy from one dating site and we’ve been online dating for about 8 months.
We talk on MSN almost everyday,also on calls sometimes. After spending yeah…or wasting my time over the cyber world, I think this guy is far better than any other one I’ve known so far. Well.. I’ve known well about the importance of background checking and I find he’s honest. I have lots of good friends from many countries and some are good hackers from underground sites.But there’s a problem, he always asked me to take nude pictures for him n even though I’ve sent him many he kept on asking for more.
He started asking that after I told him no pre-marital sex. He’s going to come this June.These few days, I’m asking myself…what the heck I’m doing all this time..??
Do you guys or gals have any suggestion? My head is gonna split into 2 I guess..
I need suggestions from either guys’ or gals’ point of view.
Thanks a lot!!
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@ Aluang
Thanks for the explanation. I agree with you.
I was just being precautions and read so many different story. And yes, i do agree that is halal, as long as the wife is adult enough for that time measurement, and yes its not only south east asia only that use first period as a sign of a woman maturity, but i am not so sure about this once again.
As the engaged guy, i read it in some story too, but she is not in love just like most other arabian woman i think her parent first engaged her to that guy. And then for the good relation of Muhammad and Aisyah family so it would be closer somehow his father broke the first engagement and ask Muhammad to marry his daughter.. well.. he is a model of mankind now and back then especially, girls crazy about him (please do not compare him with Elvis, etc. its just MORE)Ofcourse Mark just jealous, i could see from his mad write.
@ Jen
LOL, you had so many experience girl ! your love live really like a box of choc, different rich collection of taste (mix bitter and sweet of course) !
I ever had issue with American guy too, after years relationship and engaged ring, and so on. He got (he made it sound like accident) his friend in USA pregnant. Instead marrying me that year he married with that girl (but first ask me by phone what should he do).Years after that i think… well.. any guys could do that. Including Indonesian these days. We couldn’t like or pretend thats not happening, i know my friends that got pregnant before married with Indonesian guys.
Its just the matter of seeing someone right. And Mr Right is not that easy to find ! -
@ Mbak Farah
Here are the authentic source.
When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha’s father, for her hand. At first Abu Bakr thought it was improper, because he said “But I am your brother”; Muhammad saw reassured Abu Bakr’s reservation by saying that Allah revealed verses to him that it is halal to marry Aisha [ Ref: SAHIKH BUKHAR I7:18].
So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when Aisha was 9, the marriage was consumed. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI 5:236,7:64,7:65,7:88] .
The 3 year waiting period probably had to do with the fact that at that time Aisha had contracted some disease, whereby she, temporarily lost her hair. Therefore, a 6 years old girl is mature to have sex with over 70 or 80 years old in today’s era. I said 70 to 80 years old because over 50 was very old in 7th century because of primitive health care.
Aisha became Muhammad’s favourite wife. And the sexuality in the relationship was predominant [ SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142, IbnSa’d 1pg165 ]. Later, Aisha was to be called the “mother of believers”.
If our creator says it is halal, we humble slaves of Allah should not question His wisdom. If Mark still have doubt, he should first consult a psychiatrist or check himself into a mental ward.
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Yoww,
I can only say don’t do it when you feel it’s wrong, or you feel the pressure, or in doubts. It’s that easy.
When you do something you believe in, it’s easier (still it’s not so easy) for you to take all the (negative) consequences that come along with your choices. -
Yoww: oh and another thing, if I were you I wouldn’t have taken things way too serious on someone you only see online, unless you guys put an effort to meet each other. Therefore you can decide if you think you can trust him enough (and vice versa) then the rest is up to you. He can be honest on every single detail he gives you, but you guys have not met each other it might remain as online love story. And it happens all the time. (but well, I’m not too fancy about long distance relationship, especially if I hadn’t met the guy in person. Feel like ‘beli kucing dalam karung’ hehehe. So just ignore me if you think I’m not valid).
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Hi Farah,
I’ve given up searching on Mr Right since so long ago. I believed in love like my daughter believed in ‘happily ever after’ in Cinderella’s movie, but I think after sometimes you’ll know better.
I try to feel grateful for what I can have at the moment, do what’s best I can do, swear less, and travel as much as possible. And I can do all those things without mr right next to me. Well, sometimes there is mr. almost right, but other times it’s just me. Hehe. And I’m much happier now than then when I was 24 and thought I had the world in my hand. Oh well… at least I think I’m happier now. 🙂
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Hi Jen,
Thanks for sharing your experiences. They are really fun to read, except for the guy who left you alone while pregnant. Sorry to hear about that.
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@ Yoww
If i were you, the very first time he ask my nude picture i would run ASAP. If i already gave my pict and he already gave his, that’s it.
Just stick this to your brain, if its in real life would you do that ?? give your nude pict to a guy that send you mails or chat is not a good idea for he could spread it to anyone. Oh i am not try to scare you up… this world full of sick people.
You’re not an artist.. sure you just ordinary people.. but wow.. does your parent even ever see you naked lately ? if they ever see you then also doesn’t mean (just) any guy can ! have some respect girl !!
If he really like you then nude picture is un-necessary. Next time if a guy ask that from you, just said “look it by your self, come here and get that picture by your self IF YOU CAN”.
What you offer is what you get, you offer sex, and you only will get sex !
Chatting is okay, its technology that we should use to made lots of friends and find someone out there. But try to avoid such cyber (sex talk) if you really want to find a good guy, try decent talk. There’s much other way to attract guys, and its not only by sending them your nude picture that would made them think you would do the same to other guys on internet too !@ Jen
You’re strong and i do admire strong woman. I am glad you are much happier now. That’s what we seek in life so many people still can’t find any. For Mr Right, i might a dreamer.. but a man that don’t have a dream owns nothing. But i never feel un-happy for being single tho, i love traveling like you do, have lots of friends too. -
Cukurungan says:
I once had a pembantu, a girl from Karangasem, who was into this kind of thing. Later I found out that the bitch was a sisya, an apprentice leyak (witch). She secretly collected the above items (and who knows what other bodily ‘belongings’ of mine), then used them for the construction of a bebai – some kind of a voodoo-doll – on which she performed all kinds of unspeakably ‘weird’ rituals to make me succumb to her desires.I tried to resist, but in vain.
Surprised me that both of us have a similar experience but a girl who did it to me was a beautiful actress sinetron and me too…I tried to resist her desire but finally she made me fly from one mountain to other higher mountain of the enjoyment..
Ha ha ha jujur saja habis ngembat pembokat kenapa sih pakai malu segala
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Jen said
French guys were the most real gentlemen I ever knew. I heard bad things about them, but the one I met smelled really good (it’s true!), he spoke in a soft tone, did stuff like opening the door for you, listening to what you say, n very gentle in bed (it’s not necessarily bad but might be boring after a while, well, dunno, didn’t stick for that long to find out). And the fact that they know how to dress was a bonus. Sometimes I even got suggestions about fashion, what was ‘in’ or ‘out’. The down side was, when he came to visit me here, girls would be all over him (maybe this type of guys is rare in Jkt hehe) and they wouldn’t care if he was with a gf or not.
Aluang, now you hear it from another source.
Gee, with looks that kills, who would want French accent.
Aluang, where are you?
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By the way is Esperança your real name? I like it a lot.
Thanks, Lairedion. Yes, that is my real name. It means hope, harapan, in Portuguese, as you probably know.
3. If you’re looking for stylish well-dressed men enjoying joie de vivre go for the French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italians or Greeks,
My mother doesn’t seem to agree with you. And now she tries to convince by wife to persuade me to change my wardrobe”¦ I should have stayed in East Timor; it’s dangerous to put your mother and your wife in the same room talking about you. 🙂
Anyway, the Portuguese have a long tradition of miscegenation. I think campur darah is great, my son is Portuguese-East Timorese-Chinese-Japanese (my wife’s father is East Timorese and her mother is the daughter of a Chinese woman and a Japanese army officer who was stationed in East Timor in WWII).
There’s a book by Brazilian novelist Jorge Amado that deals with miscegenation. It’s called Tenda dos Milagres (Tent of Miracles) and I really love it. If you’re into books, maybe you’ll like it. -
@ Yoww
Would you mind sending some of your nude photos to me?
@ dewaratugedeanom
If only Jen and me had crossed path, I bet she would be melt in my arms. Javanese men are better lovers than French men, and that is an undeniable fact. I am a living specimen.
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Lairedion,
no worries, I’m glad that I have my daughter she’s the best thing that ever happen to me.
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Anneke says:
Selamat Pagi,
I am Dutch/Indonesian & Irish. My parents met 45 years ago and are still married. How ’bout that!! He worked at the American Embassy in Jakarta and met her there. Anyhow .. any relationship is tough and requires daily work … is it harder in this case? … sure .. maybe in the beginning but once you embrace both cultures and religious differences you are on your way to a very nice combination and life together. Ps Not everyone who is Indonesian is Muslim … in this case Mother Catholic, father Protestant.
Terima Kasih,
Have a great day.
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Oigal says:
As the fact, these years girls had their first period over 13 years old.. back then.. 6-8 years old could had their first period in some SE countries first period (menstruation) counted as a mature sign of a woman, and they were ready to had husband and children.
What absolute rot! The age of menstruation has been lowering in recent decades due to better hygiene and food..not the other way around..where do people these ideas from?
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AAB said I am a living specimen Well at least that is true..first thing so far
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@ oigal
As the fact, these years girls had their first period over 13 years old.. back then.. 6-8 years old could had their first period in some SE countries first period (menstruation) counted as a mature sign of a woman, and they were ready to had husband and children.
What absolute rot! The age of menstruation has been lowering in recent decades due to better hygiene and food..not the other way around..where do people these ideas from?
Lowering means ?? back to age below 10, like 8 y/o or 7 y/o ???
I got my first period when i was 15 and that was at year 1996. My younger sister had at age 14, the youngest sister at age 16 when she was on high school.
My mom had her period when she was 9 (she was born at 1956), my grandmother at age 6 (she just had her 74 b-day).
I think its better to have it last because its mean we will had the menopause late too ! and beside that, it proved the oldest we got the period, the taller we will be. Me and my sisters are the tallest girl at school (well of course beside the genes, food and sports).Sorry guys once again i drive this conversation to ..errrrhhh… different direction. Just want to explain why i got such thought. 😉 🙂 🙂
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sunny says:
@ Farah,
I dont why people here are going away from the main topic. I dont know why they are going other ways, talking and comparing religions……hahahaha
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@ Sunny
well too much testosterone i guess.. everything is competition, everything is a debate… and sometimes no matter how hard to keep the conversation on the line, sometimes it will bended right or left… 😉 and then go back to the main issue again. -
Jen,
Good to hear you’re OK. Take care.
Joao,
Agree. Campur darah, you can have the best of both worlds and disregard the worst of both worlds. Thanks for pointing me out to this book, maybe I’ll read it one day.
Anneke,
Intermarrying between Catholics and Protestants (both Christians) in Indonesia is not such a big issue, unlike it was, or perhaps still is, in certain parts in Europe. My Dutch grandfather (RIP) was not allowed to befriend Protestants, let alone dating and marrying.
Marrying with Muslim Indonesian women adds extra problems to the situation since Muslim women are not allowed to marry non-Muslims. Apart from that there are the potential problems rising from cultural differences which in my opinion are easier to overcome if the religious difference is more or less absent (like your parents).
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Lowering means ?? back to age below 10, like 8 y/o or 7 y/o ???
What I mean is it is a complete load of rubbish when tossers throw out the old chestnut that it was ok to have sex with children hundreds of years ago because they had their periods at younger age then..They didn’t..
Nor does the fact, that children (the operative word being children) are having their periods at younger age in a lot countries now for reasons I have already explained make it ok now.
A child is a child no matter what age she has her period and deserves to enjoy her childhod without some dirty old pervert taking her for his own selfish, perverse needs.
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timdog says:
My father (third generation Irish immigrant in Scotland) was not allowed by his family to describe himself as “Scottish” as a child because to be Scottish meant to be Protestant. Despite the fact he had a Scots accent and had never been to Ireland, he was “Irish” and should never forget it! When, in his early twenties he finally broke away from the grimly sadistic atmosphere of mid-20th Century Irish Catholicism and stopped going to church, he was initially subjected to various attempts to “cure” him, and was then essentially disowned. When he then married a woman who was not just – bad enough – Engish, but unforgivably, a nominal Protestant, his ostracism was complete…
That there are no real problems between Protestants and Catholics in Indonesia is almost certainly down to the fact that there has been no real historical conflict of essentially territorial or political nature framed by the distinction of Christian denomination… unlike Europe, where there has been plenty of this, not least in Ireland or Holland, which can lead to intense rancour between people who are only nominal members of their respective faiths. This is very much the case in Northern Ireland: people there killed each other until very recently – theoretically on the grounds of denomination, but really religion was just a substitute for raw tribalism.
In fact, it could be argued that in most places where there is widespread inter-faith rancour amongst people who are not particularly devout the roots of the issue will lie not in the faiths in question, but in territorial or tribal dispute. India and Pakistan, Palestine and Israel, Northern Ireland all being quick examples…
For all the talk of rising Islamism, oppression and religious persecution, and for all the ethnic rancour in Indonesia, among “normal” people – of all religions – there is nothing even remotely approaching the simmering bitterness between Catholic and Protestant in Northern Ireland (though one hopes that the days of violence in that country are now over).
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“Man who builds straw house can never light fire“, as some would say. One cannot judge contemporary religions by some stories told in their ancient holy books, and that includes Christians criticizing Muslims without reading the Holy Bible first:
Numbers 31 (King James Version)
Numbers 31
1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2 Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites: afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people.
3 And Moses spake unto the people, saying, Arm some of yourselves unto the war, and let them go against the Midianites, and avenge the LORD of Midian.
4 Of every tribe a thousand, throughout all the tribes of Israel, shall ye send to the war.
5 So there were delivered out of the thousands of Israel, a thousand of every tribe, twelve thousand armed for war.
6 And Moses sent them to the war, a thousand of every tribe, them and Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest, to the war, with the holy instruments, and the trumpets to blow in his hand.
7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males.
8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword.
9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.
10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire.
11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts.
12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.
13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.
14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.
15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Deuteronomy 25 (King James Version)
11 When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets:
12 Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.
Hosea 13:16 (King James Version)
16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.