Dating Indonesian Girls

Apr 4th, 2006, in Society, by

Dating Indonesian women may not be for everyone.

Indonesian women, particularly on the island of Java, are exceptionally beautiful. They tend towards the very feminine side, with lovely skin, are not too tall, and have knock-out smiles. There’s plenty of plus on that side of things.

If wer’e to be honest we have to recognise that many men are interested in a woman who will take care of him, do the housework without complaint, and take care of other matters similarly without much bother. Your average Indonesian girl often fits the bill in this respect, certainly more than your average western woman, the less said about them the better.

On the other hand going out with Indonesian women in a romantic way can have many mysterious pitfalls.

Some women here are clearly only interested in money. Some men are unbothered by this. Others of the female variety, can, once we get to know them very well, come across as practically insane, hysterically emotional, scheming, over-possessive, inclined to, usually fake, attempts at self-harm in order to get their way. As I said, not for the faint-hearted.

There are a few Indonesia dating websites although the area is not nearly as developed as that in nearby Phillipines or Thailand. To begin your online journey on the Indonesian dating scene our very own “Meet” section has many a lady eager for company.


4,898 Comments on “Dating Indonesian Girls”

  1. ET says:

    timdog

    Actually Rickleffs makes this really interesting argument that the much discussed “Santri-Abangan” divide only emerged in the mid-19th Century, lasted for about 100 years, and has now largely melted away again.

    Not true. It reemerged in the sidelines of some obscure blog called Indonesia Matters but lately has vanished again. Some participants were labeled ‘abangan’ and others ‘santri’. On what criteria has always been something I wanted to know but never dared to ask.

    How come the Indonesian-bule relationship world is so massively dominated by Bule men-Indonesian women? How come there are comparatively so very few bule women-Indonesian me pairings?

    O, but there are! Come to Bali and see the world famous Kuta Cowboys rodeoing the belugas from Gondwana. But then again, Bali isn’t Indonesia, is it? Or is it vice versa…?

  2. ET says:

    So over the years more and more I refined the kind of people I hang out with in JKT to my personal taste. Educated, broadly interested , professional, internationally focussed and fun to hang out with.

    Franky, if free speech wouldn’t be one of the great – and in your case annoyingly overrated – accomplishments of Western civilizations, I would say you are an oen, (_x_) and go back to hollywood. Or to your woods and your oliebollenvelden .

  3. stevo says:

    Feel free to cut and past a line here and there, pull it out of context and be creative. Funny guy….

    Yes cut and pasting out of context sentence fragments is annoying. It seems to be an IM thing. Oigal uses it as his only method of debating me. I will be careful not to sink to that level again.

    Yes I agree, Dutch girls are lovely.

  4. franky says:

    @et
    Freedom of speech is actually one of our universal rights worlwide I would say.
    And if your wife hits you and telling you otherwise do not believe her……

    So call me a ‘oen’ please. It even not has to have any relevance to what you cut and paste. I respect freedom and speech and also understand it’s late there…:)

    @stevo
    Freedom of speech is actually blablabla
    Don’t mind any cut and paste, really.
    As long as it’s fun and serves the purpose of the creator hhehehehhehe

    Yea Dutch girls are nice too aren’t they 🙂

    And two more things about Germany. Next to their cars I like their “Sauerkraut’ and their contribution to our economy as they are our biggest export market. I almost forgot that. How impolite of me.

  5. Oigal says:

    Ah but Stevo, there is little else to do but cut n paste in your case. The longer versions of your posts become more inconsistent and incoherent with length. Its ok, consider the cut n paste a community service if you will. Nice to know I am still on your mind tho (now there’s a balancing act)

    I will be careful not to sink to Dutch girls again

    Now that is just plain nasty Stevo… 🙂

    Seriously, I have asked you before just where did I cut and paste you and change your meaning (unlike the above..hehe)

  6. stevo says:

    Oigal, sadly your proven lack of reading comprehension prevents me from explaining such novel concepts as; reading comments in context, understanding the central point and not reading each sentence fragment as an individual complete statement. I could go on, but your probably hopelessly confused by now anyway.

    I guess I will have to do as others have done and make allowances for the fact you’re Australian.

  7. stevo says:

    To be honest Franky, I can get much more pleasure from the German girls than I would from driving an over rated car and eating pickled cabbage. But each to his own I say 😉

  8. Oigal says:

    Oigal, sadly your proven lack of reading comprehension prevents me from explaining such novel concepts as; reading comments in context, understanding the central point and not reading each sentence fragment as an individual complete statement. I could go on, but your probably hopelessly confused by now anyway.

    I guess I will have to do as others have done and make allowances for the fact you’re Australian.

    So I take that as “I cannot” then Stevie.. Sheesh never use a word when a paragraph will do. Certainly if picking up Indonesian Girls was as easy as hooking Stevie, this buffaloe would be skun and dried already

  9. timdog says:

    ET:

    O, but there are! Come to Bali and see the world famous Kuta Cowboys rodeoing the belugas from Gondwana. But then again, Bali isn’t Indonesia, is it? Or is it vice versa…?

    I don’t know which way round it goes, but you’re right: Bali does not count in any discussion of Indonesia!

    So come on everyone, put your minds to it. How come the “mixed relationship” field is so dominated by bule men+Indonesian girls?

    What are the cultural, sociological and psychological reasons behind this?
    I’m pretty sure plenty of Indonesian men would love to bag themselves a bule Mrs, so I don’t think that’s the issue…

    Come on, I’m sure Stevo, if no one else, could come up with an enlightened and enlightening explanation for this phenomenon…

  10. bonni says:

    ET,

    Bali isn’t Indonesia, is it?

    Bali is one of the provinces of indonesia. I’m sorry but that’s the fact.

    Franky,

    I had fun reading your serious encounters… Although it doesn’t sound that serious to me…

  11. berlian biru says:

    So come on everyone, put your minds to it. How come the “mixed relationship” field is so dominated by bule men+Indonesian girls?

    For the rather obvious reason that unattached bule males outnumber unattached bule females here by about four to one I would imagine.

    Plus I think that bule men find it easier to adapt to life in Indonesia than bule women who do like their western creature comforts I find.

  12. franky says:

    hehehe feel relieved that today I am not being atacked by a pack of wolves or lonely bear, so to speak, initiated by me posting over here. Or am I to early to draw conclusions…….

    Scared as I may be, I also admit that it also is fun in a kind of peculiour way.
    Trying to get the underlaying skin of you (and yes that is bad translation of a Dutch saying hope you understand) and the reason why you join this thread.

    May I comment on:

    Stevo
    You’re absolutely right man. But what is better to be on the way to a Sauerkraut serving restaurant in yr German car, how over rated it may be, in the pleasant presence of a not over rated girl? And I don’t wanna keep you away of of your ‘freedom to choose’ towards preferred nationality. Hey…..is that also one of our universal rights worlwide?

    Maybe if you can’t share your Story on your Bule/Indonesian encounter cozz of your prudence to the involvees, it might be nice to tell more on your german encounters?
    Hey, small chance German Girls follow this thread 🙂

    Bonni
    Good to hear and yes it was fun for me too…:) only the serious ‘encounters’ seemed to be less serious ‘serious encounters’. But this was the beginning right? and going through the learning curve this became also clear to me. But I did not talk about that phase in this thread yet.

    Stevo’s motivation not to post his story, made me realise that if you post it’s for eternity. And that may not be a good idea…hehhehehe It’s just I am not used to the whole thread thing.

  13. stevo says:

    So come on everyone, put your minds to it. How come the “mixed relationship” field is so dominated by bule men+Indonesian girls?

    I do know a number of examples of Indonesian men marrying bule women. Interestingly, all of the women are blondes. A close Indonesian friends son is married to a very attractive tall blonde, who gets noticed regardless of where she goes. He is not tall, rich, super good looking, but is a regular nice guy.

    But exceptions do make a rule. So let us approach it with the useful aid of stereotypes and gross generalisations…..

    Bule women are prone to be pretentious racists. They are driven by hypergamy and see Indonesian guys as a step below them.

  14. Oigal says:

    Bali is an Indonesian Province ..hmmm..or alternatively Bali is a protectorate of the greater Javanese Colonial Empire complete with an occupying army and police force more concerned with wealth extraction and control of the local populace than the welfare of the nation.

  15. ET says:

    So come on everyone, put your minds to it. How come the “mixed relationship” field is so dominated by bule men+Indonesian girls?

    Could it have to do something with, euh… size?

  16. berlian biru says:

    Bule women are prone to be pretentious racists. They are driven by hypergamy and see Indonesian guys as a step below them.

    I agree, in all my time here the only occasions on which I have encountered blatant racism towards Indonesians from bules has been from bule women in full memsahib mode, not a pleasant spectacle.

  17. ET says:

    Maybe the Indonesian boys are less “internationally focussed” than the girls.

  18. deta says:

    Bule women are prone to be pretentious racists. They are driven by hypergamy and see Indonesian guys as a step below them.

    Okay, that’s a generalization. But, why not?

    On the other hand, Indonesian guys still hold on firmly to the notion that male should be the main provider in a relationship (unless for some professional kuta cowboys or cowok matre so to speak). That’s why coming from less developed nation puts a kind of psychological hindrance for them in approaching bule women.

    But of course, that’s just another annoying generalization. 😉

    Could it have to do something with, euh… size?

    Yes, in socio-economic scale. There, I ruined your imagination.

  19. timdog says:

    Could it have to do something with, euh… size?

    Wakakakakakakakakak… as they say…

    On a semi-serious point, I have known a number of bule girls who absolutely made the most of the… ahem… sexual market while in Indonesia, and embarked on the kind of sexual rampage through the ranks of comely young local males that would put their bulman counterparts to shame.
    But here’s the thing – for them there were very clearly no strings whatsoever attached, no “is she, isn’t she?” questions about temporary partners met in bars, no possible “business” aspect, and equally no potential for a sense of responsibility to a girl’s reputation or family. And obviously they were perfectly capable of taking care of birth control issues. Therefore they all got to go home at the end of their contracts having had a lot of fun, but without having got themselves entangled. I suspect that may be one of the reasons. Some – not all – “western women” seem to be far more in control of their own sexuality than many “western men”….

    Did I ever tell the tale of the bule girl I knew who had a night of passion with Ariel Peterporn? I think I probably did.
    It was my only tangential link to Indonesian celebrity for a long time (apart from having met Steven of Coconut Trees fame, and that definitely ranks pretty low), until I met some Indonesian beauty queen in the Forbidden City in a very chilly Beijing. Ah, I think I told that one too…

    But anyway, last Thursday morning I’m walking down Orchard Road in Singapore and I stop at a pedestrian crossing (as you do in Singapore), and glance to the left to see a very tall and rather attractive Asian woman also waiting to cross. She’s wearing killer heels, and a very stylish dress that manages to be both revealing and classy. She’s holding hands with an apparently mixed-race toddler, and is attended by a very short, very dumpy, very jilbabed middle aged woman, presumably in some kind of service capacity.
    You know that weird sense you get when you first see someone off TV, but don’t realise who they are? Like “Didn’t I go to school with her?” or something like that? Well, I got that for about 10 seconds before my brain clicked in and HOLY SHIT! It’s Chef Farah Quinn!
    I’ll confess to being a bit of a fan; also, having the misfortune to know something about cooking, I can tell you that very unusually amongst celebrity “chefs” she also really does know something about cooking – you can tell from the way she handles a knife if nothing else…

    But anyway, to my great shame I was so tongue-tied I passed up on the opportunity to say hello, and she went on her way, stylishly sauntering away into the distance, half-caste and jilbabber trailing in her wake, and me still standing slack-jawed at the crossing…

    Anyway, the pertinent point is that Chef Farah Quinn, while unmistakably hot, is… wait for it… she is HITAM KAYAK PEMBANTU!
    Seriously, you can kind of see it on TV, but they obviously slap on a lot of make-up, and TV lighting washes the colour out of everyone, but in the flesh the woman is seriously dark; the jilbabed midget trailing after her was markedly lebih putih…

    Anyway, considering she was recently voted “Indonesia’s sexiest woman” I consider this a massive victory for the hitam manis sisters…

    Up, evidently I have nothing of value to add to the discourse today…

  20. ET says:

    There, I ruined your imagination.

    Do you have any hands-on experience, deta?

  21. ET says:

    I consider this a massive victory for the hitam manis sisters…

    Ah, hitam manis…

    it remind me of my first attempts to speak bahasa Indonesia

    Datanglah seorang gadis hitam manis dari kamar mandi
    Warna kulitnya mirip sawo matang
    Dengan lemah gemulai dia mendekati tempat duduk saya
    Malu-malu saya mengatakan kepadanya
    Dari mana? Mau ke mana?

    Obviosusly I have also nothing substantial to add to the discussion.

  22. berlian biru says:

    I yield to no man in my admiration for la belle Farah but I would question her great cooking skills. She is, if I am not wrong, a pastry chef and she has clearly gone for the Nigella Lawson approach to cookery programmes; make big eyes at the camera, flounce the (surgically enhanced) breasts about the screen and make comfort food for blokes.

    My wife has always snorted with contempt at my fondness for Farah, dismissing her as “kampung-looking”, I never quite saw it myself but I will pass on timdog’s info to her, she’ll be delighted to know that I confirm to the bule stereotype in my attraction to a certain type of Indonesian woman.

  23. lomboksurfer says:

    If it was only about size than how could one explain the bloody success of the Kuta cowboys? I remember a few bloody years back I would always see this bloody hot blonde (bule) woman about early 30s who was always at the movies with a bleedin young indo dude. It seems she was always purchasing the tickets, drinks etc. Bloody great situation I thought except I remembered the bible said “A man lives in disgrace when he allows a woman to support him”.

  24. bonni says:

    Oigal,

    Bali is an Indonesian Province ..hmmm..or alternatively Bali is a protectorate of the greater Javanese Colonial Empire complete with an occupying army and police force more concerned with wealth extraction and control of the local populace than the welfare of the nation.

    Hmmm… Supposably… But I believe indonesia has its own way to be concerned about the welfare of the nation regarding to the latest tragedies which has been occured but ‘has just being seen‘ in several areas in indonesia…

    Franky,

    But I did not talk about that phase in this thread yet.

    I am waiting, if you may…

    Timdog,

    Did I ever tell the tale of the bule girl I knew who had a night of passion with Ariel Peterporn? I think I probably did.

    Don’t hate the player hate the game! 😛 Anyway I think farah quinn is a very sexy indonesian chef… She has both the look and the skill… I am very proud of her hitam kayak pembantu skin. As miss indonesia beauty pageant has become like miss asian beauty pageant recently… No offends, just being sarcastic maybe…

  25. timdog says:

    ET, that’s beautiful that is…

    BB, see! Another thing we have in common 😉

    I would question her great cooking skills

    Oh she’s no Marco Pierre White, but seriously, there are little things that real cooks would recognise, like the way she holds a knife and moves a pan that show you she’s had proper training, and little things she does that let you know she’s got a grip on food science, like she always rests her meat, you’ve got to rest your meat… ahem…

    She’s a world away from bloody Nigella in that respect. That woman is NOT a cook, knows absolutely nothing about food, and have you seen the size of her ears? Seriously, that’s what all the cascading raven hair is all about; they’re huge. Farah knocks the socks off her, kampung complexion and everything…

    Gosh I really don’t have anything to add, do I? Must be a wednesday thing.

    I’ll come back when I’m feeling better…

  26. ET says:

    I never watch cooking programs. They always make me wonder how many chopped off finger tips are mixed into my nasi campur.

  27. deta says:

    Do you have any hands-on experience, deta?

    Yes and no, but you’ll have a hard moment believing it, anyway.

  28. Nay says:

    I have known a number of bule girls who absolutely made the most of the… ahem… sexual market while in Indonesia, and embarked on the kind of sexual rampage through the ranks of comely young local males that would put their bulman counterparts to shame.
    But here’s the thing – for them there were very clearly no strings whatsoever attached, no “is she, isn’t she?” questions about temporary partners met in bars, no possible “business” aspect, and equally no potential for a sense of responsibility to a girl’s reputation or family. And obviously they were perfectly capable of taking care of birth control issues. Therefore they all got to go home at the end of their contracts having had a lot of fun, but without having got themselves entangled.

    Women… using MEN for sex?!
    With men who are NOT their boyfriend/husbands?
    Say it ain’t so!
    he he…. that’s actually the unspoken norm that polite society doesn’t want to accept.

    I enjoy being that man who “doesn’t count” 🙂

  29. ET says:

    deta

    you’ll have a hard moment

    Sounds promising…

  30. ET says:

    lomboksurfer

    If it was only about size than how could one explain the bloody success of the Kuta cowboys? I remember a few bloody years back I would always see this bloody hot blonde (bule) woman about early 30s who was always at the movies with a bleedin young indo dude.

    Black magic is known to work particularly well on cougars. Especially if it enables them to show off and say “Look, I’m not old”.

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