Anti-Chinese Violence
Feb 6th, 2007, in News, by PatungAnti-Chinese feeling in Indonesia, 1996-1999.
Jemma Purdey, in Anti-Chinese Violence in Indonesia, 1996-1999, suggests that the anti-Chinese violence which periodically occurred prior to May 1998 had its origins in the policy of the Suharto government of marginalising the ethnic Chinese population, restricting them to certain, mainly business, roles, and portraying them as uncaring and corrupt.
Frustrated and poor “native” Indonesians who might be expected to take out their anger on government officials instead were diverted by the government into venting those frustrations on the Chinese. So, for the Suharto regime, the Chinese were a convenient scapegoat, and a provided an important safety valve for the expression of the people’s passions, and allowed mob violence to be directed at targets other than the regime. Normally violence against Chinese was directed largely against their property, rather than their persons. (see Pogroms in East Java 1965-66 for a couple of examples.)
Anti-Chinese Violence in Indonesia, 1996-1999.
The riots which occurred in Jakarta in May of 1998 however were of a different nature, says Purdey. They seemed to have been organised, with military-like precision, rather than spontaneous displays of rebellion, and involved the use of rape against Chinese women, although the numbers of victims is disputed.
Purdey points out however that it is only a minority of the indigenous population which is given to participating in mob violence against ethnic Chinese. eurekastreet
288 Comments on “Anti-Chinese Violence”
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kiwibali says:
im not saying that pribumi doesnt have the same problems. because we definitely do!
but isnt that current idiot, not to mention ignorant, view of those rioters about the Chinese-Indonesian?
sometime i just shaked my head “the real demon is the one orchestrating the riot, your own!”. but they wont listen, they like the easy way out discriminate against the most visible race.Btw where is our ex president Habibie leaving now ? hallo ? patriotism ?
if i could, i would tell him the same thing i told you. does anyone have his email adress? we should invite him to post here.
he already left, i dont live in the past. i only care about the present and the future. i dont want a snowballing effect, imagine if that happened, all of the wealth accumulated here is just simply ‘moved’, Indonesia will be the nest of extremist. i surely dont want that to happened, i want to live in Bali, Indonesia again. i want to die here.we all have to start the fight for a better Indonesia. the result might be minimal, but hopefully it will snowball and lead to a greater tomorrow. running will just simply destroying instead of helping this country.
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DXP…
Nothing personal and I am not offended.
I am neither Indonesian nor am I Chinese Indonesian…I also have not been victim to anyone burning down my house while yelling Allahu Akbar at the top of their lungs. So, I do not presume to know what that is like or how it feels. My house has been robbed but that is a little different I guess!
The crimes perpetrated during the May riots of 1998 must be prosecuted. In this I am in agreement with you! The perpetrators must be found and they must be prosecuted for the sake of justice. However, the longer the government messes around on this front the more difficult it becomes. Perhaps the government is counting on the passage of time lessening the feeling of loss. Simply, Indonesian society will never fully forget the riots and this is especially the case if the government tries to sweep it under the carpet!
However, in spite of your loss, the idea of labelling Javanese as having a lower level of DNA than you as a Chinese is offensive and it invites people to label you a racist, a bigot, an elitist, and generally a raving loony! All this means that very few people will take you as seriously as perhaps they should take the issues that you are talking about…
Not all Javanese people are bad and not all Chinese Indonesians are good. That is the way of the world. I am Australian and not all Australians are good. The majority are good and decent people. This is true for all people. The majority are good and decent! It is simply wrong to label the majority with the generalization as you have because of a few. It is exactly the same as the bullsh*t argument that all Chinese Indonesians are rich and that they get rich by exploiting the pribumi and the Chinese Indonesians then end up controlling 70% or more of the economy! If you look around you will find plenty of Chinese Indonesians that are middle class or lower, some even live in conditions that would be categorized as below the poverty line…
This is what I meant by pulling your head out of the sand! Your arguments are emotional (not always a bad thing) and this has lead to them being irrational (at least in my view) with regards to the issue of DNA.
I do not necessarily understand your reluctance to identify as Indonesian. If your family has been here for generations why do you still want to distinguish yourself by identifying as Chinese Indonesian? Why do you want to remain separate? Why if you find Indonesia to be so barbaric that you choose to stay? If you are being victimized because of your race and you do not see this getting any better why don’t you seek asylum in a country that you feel will be more conducive to a peaceful and harmonious way of life for you?
I am not advocating that you quit Indonesia or any such thing. I am trying to understand the hatred you seem to possess for the Javanese (and perhaps Indonesia more generally) and your reluctance to explore your options in a more tolerant set of surroundings…
The idea that Indonesia has been colonized by the Javanese is an interesting one but really needs a topic / thread of its own. The reality is that Indonesia is a socio-political construct with only tenuous ties to bind it together. It is a State that has been wracked by tensions racial and otherwise from before independence to the present day. Yet, many Indonesians strive to keep the dream of Bhinneka Tunggal Ika alive.
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Deng Xiao Phing says:
Why if you find Indonesia to be so barbaric that you choose to stay? If you are being victimized because of your race and you do not see this getting any better why don’t you seek asylum in a country that you feel will be more conducive to a peaceful and harmonious way of life for you?
Rob, you shall ask the above question to the rest of ‘chinese Indonesian’, I am with you, I am equally puzzled, I want them to be aware that the gov’t of Indonesia under Javanese colonialism will never pay respect to the minority citizen especially the chinese race. And if the ignorant to the May 1998 was not enough proof, what else ?
Your arguments are emotional (not always a bad thing) and this has lead to them being irrational (at least in my view) with regards to the issue of DNA.
so what would you expect when dealing with a bunch of moron pribumi who were nothing to lose, easily be manipulated & said ‘Allahu akbar’ while carrying gasoline & throwing it to your house & burning like they were seeing pigs ? … I see clearly you have no clue at all what was happening to us in May 1998 ! … the feeling was similar to the Australian family members audience who attended Amrozi’s trials in Denpasar court ….
If Indonesia is really a descent society, how could big & spontaneous riots sparked easily in just 3 days in more than 10 big cities not to mention smaller counties ??
if this is a descent society, why I did not hear / see group of pribumi fight those perpretators which is only small team as compare to thousand who ‘enjoyed the drama of torturing the chinese’ ? btw … our army chief was Wiranto … he is free & proposing himself as the next Indonesian president … amazing country -
hm… London commodity exchange international fuels price hit $135 / bbl today …
Allahu akbar … let the gasoline price hike burn your pocket, you will feel the burning sensation similar to when riots threw gasolines & burnt chinese (CINA) houses in Pluit, Pantai Indak Kapuk, Jembatan Besi, Glodok, ManggaDua, HayamWuruk … you see .. no trials , no prosecution on the culprit of May 1998 riots – is it okay man ? yes, okay in Indonesia, history had proved you are free from any trials …So , wanna orchestrate another new riot ? why not ? ..the Indonesian Riot Idol … will come once every decade … to your nearest hometown for sure
In 2018, it maybe the fuels price will hit $300 / bbl, then will expect for another riot ? why not ? history proved you can do ‘AMOK’ burnt & kill anything in Indonesia without prosecutions .. when will it be ended ? never … so long as the culprits still alive and I hope they read this posting too … to make them entertained & proud with their ‘achievements’ to build the respectful country of Indonesia Raya …
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seriously DXP, why start provoking an unnecessarily war of words here with your ignorant and angry words.
As an Australian, you should have been educated better. Instead, you start to flame people here without any good intention except messages of wrath and anger. Tell me, will it make the world better?
You might think that the government allows bad things happen to Chinese, and yes, Indonesian governments are bastard for that. But, take a look at your own country. What has your government do to your aborigin? How long does it take for the aborigin people to get an apology from your government?
Before you keep pointing your finger to other people, stop flaming and take a moment to think. Sometimes a ten-minute thinking could make a world a better place.
And btw, you don’t help by calling CINA with CAPS.
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What has your government do to your aborigin? How long does it take for the aborigin people to get an apology from your government?
What did my gov’t do with Aborigin is not my concern as the similar to Indon gov’t did not really care when the chinese houses were burnt like pig farms in Jakarta in May 1998. In fact, I salute Aussie gov’t by letting 2 Dragons as the Syndey – Hurstville’s county gate symbol, the Aussie caucassian people enjoy our delicious chinese foods. You want cha-shiu mien ? san dzhen ruo (daging babi – samchan) tau pok ? all we have and the bule man women ate them all. We drink beer similar to them and it is not haram, so what is the problem ?
Instead, you start to flame people here without any good intention except messages of wrath and anger
oh I see … as chinese Indonesia minority, you mean we deserve to keep happy watching our houses get flatten to ground, the women get rapes … sst … sst … do not anger .. it is fine …. be low profile … you hv no right to protest
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Hitam Tapi Cina says:
DXP,
I think it’s useless to channel your anger here.
It is the Indonesian public and government which u should be angry to.
The people you are critisizing here do not have the guts to do anything even though they may share your concern.A few solutions for you:
1. Shut up and get out of Indonesia and let them rot in hell
2. Get into politics in Indonesia and shout as loud as you can, so the public can hear you then change the situation.
3. Retaliate, terrorize them, bomb them, poison them; show ’em that u can
4. Make them suffer more socially, economically or politically -
dont have the guts??? more like couldn’t do anything alone mate. i myself a minority in this country where the majority is muslim. and yeah i do share your concern about how pathetic, idiotic and brutal those fools are (the rioters).
we all have to unite to better the country, thats why i wanted every Indonesia to stay.
1. Shut up and get out of Indonesia and let them rot in hell
2. Get into politics in Indonesia and shout as loud as you can, so the public can hear you then change the situation.
3. Retaliate, terrorize them, bomb them, poison them; show ‘em that u can
4. Make them suffer more socially, economically or politically1. not a big fan of that, understandable if you want to leave due to fear of your life. but letting ‘them’ rot? not only that statement describe yourself as a racist, but also such action will only strengthen the current messed up view that the rioters have about the chinese.
2. if you are lucky enough to attain the political limelight, then by any means scream as loud as you can, and clean up the corrupt bastards that are tearing this country apart and uphold pancasila so that we wont become an theocratic country.
3. man i hope you are joking about this…. we dont need anymore violence
4. again i hope your joking, ur not helping anyone by this. you are actually help fuelled the extremist movement in Indonesia, and guess what if this keep happening a full-on religious war, one that will surely spill to other countries.
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hi si Hitam tapi cina, agree with Kiwibali’s statement, but the fundamental problem that Indonesia have been under Javanese – muslim colonialism since independent 1945.
And that is the main culprit, because the Javanese DNA + muslim ideology = incompetent leaders of Indonesia. If option no:2 is the best choice then all the minority shall build a new politic party. The new party propose name should be : Partai Minority Non-Muslim , oh yeah … that is the only way to get the number and as the only aspiration for non-muslim to be unified, channel all the resources (money, wealth, knowledge, talents, dedication, etc … ) to balance the pathetic dominant of muslims.So what do u think brothers ?
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DXP…
Unfortunately, your arguments are nothing more than racist rants. In a way some of the points you make are valid with regard to the idea of progress will require a commitment from those that have the power and authority to arrest those responsible for the violence perpetrated against any victim of the May 1998 riots. This justice does not belong only to the Chinese Indonesians that suffered but to all victims.
Your arguments regarding Javanese DNA and Muslim ideology highlight not only your anger and hatred but a degree of racial superiority and thus racisim. Your answer to these problems is what exactly? Your views match those that promote ideas that races can be superior to others. The idea of an aryan nation for example. Or in more recent developments the idea that through science we can create a master race and a subservient slave race through manipulation of the gene pool. This is truly frightening in some respects.
HTC…
There are plenty of Indonesians with the guts to do something about it. Unfortunately, they remain in the minority. Yet, rather than rant and rave here, I agree with you that perhaps DXP shouldmake a commitment to “come home” if he is living abroad and create the movement for change that he desires. If I am not mistaken it was Gandhi who said “be the change you want to see in the world”.
Unfortunately, DXP cannot be the change he wants to see in the world because he believes that Chinese Indonesians have superior DNA, superior intellect, and presumably superior rights. Simply, he wants to replace one system he despises for its racism with one of his own — very sad.
Back to DXP…
Go for it DXP. I am ready for the standard lines of you cannot understand because you are not Indonesian, or more specifically not Chinese Indonesian, or you’re just another bule that knows nothing about Indonesia or Indonesians…
As much as I think justice must be provided to the victims of the riots on May 1998, and as much as I would like to see Indonesia reach its potential, and as much as I would like to see Indonesia realize the pluralistic society that it craves, I cannot support you or your ideas of reform that seem so deeply etched into the idea of racial superiority of the Chinese Indonesians over their Javanese and Muslim colleagues…let’s face it, based on your logic even Javanese Christians, Buddhists, and Hindus are inferior because even if you were to give them some credit for not being Muslim then they are still Javanese and from an inferior gene pool to that of your good self!
Very sad!
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KiwiBali,
more like couldn’t do anything alone mate.
You know it is not true.
You can do something about it, and who said anything about doing it alone. Everyone who share hatred to injustice for minority should stand together and do something, not just shout out loud or worse just watch.if you are lucky enough to attain the political limelight,
Do you think Sukarno and Hatta were lucky to get the Dutch or Japs attention?
No, they had to seize the chance for independence and so do we. Not just waiting for luck.
You must be insane to expect things will happen as to your expectation just by talking.
Politics is the only way because the government and parliaments of Indonesia are impotent. Or may be you would rather let them ruin the country because believe me, doom is coming.Rob,
There are plenty of Indonesians with the guts to do something about it. Unfortunately, they remain in the minority.
Yes, too bad. Not good enough.
With the scale of the problems in Indonesia, it will take more than plenty of indonesians. We need more good people and a good government system to be able to make the change we want.
I don’t know who you really are-Indonesian or not
One big problem now is there is no good people to choose and therefore if you guys think you are good and have good ideas, you should stand out of the crowd and act together for the betterment of the people and a better future.
The current president may be good and clean but unfortunately, being good and clean does not mean handling problems effectively. As I said, impotent. -
just realized i got a response for this
more like couldn’t do anything alone mate.
You know it is not true.
You can do something about it, and who said anything about doing it alone. Everyone who share hatred to injustice for minority should stand together and do something, not just shout out loud or worse just watch.isn’t that what i was saying? sorry if i confused you in any way. i just want to say that we are not gutless, or simply ignoring the problem. i support you statement highly, we all should stick together.
if you are lucky enough to attain the political limelight,
Do you think Sukarno and Hatta were lucky to get the Dutch or Japs attention?
No, they had to seize the chance for independence and so do we. Not just waiting for luck.
You must be insane to expect things will happen as to your expectation just by talking.
Politics is the only way because the government and parliaments of Indonesia are impotent. Or may be you would rather let them ruin the country because believe me, doom is coming.i think you took my statement to literally. i know how hard it is for minority to get a seat in the parliament, especially when most parties are still running on a religious basis. i know i dropped my dream of becoming an Indonesian president when i realize the scope of how religion will affect your future. which is why i put lucky in the statement, because i do feel that we need luck to assist us turn this country around.
so our independence have nothing to do with luck aswell? isnt the reason why Indonesia had the chance to do so (declare independence) is because the Japanese was suffering major defeats on the hand of the allies, that they simply are to stretched to keep Indonesia as their new colony? didn’t this event created a major opportunity for Indonesia to declare Independence. if the Japanese was able to hold their fort, will Indonesia be able to declare independence on 17th August 1945?
i could be wrong on this, im not a history professor. im just trying to say, that luck does play a part. now im not saying that its only based on luck, that we managed to declare independence, but luck does play a role.when did i infer that “You must be insane to expect things will happen as to your expectation just by talking”? please enlighten me, im simply at lost. i think you took my statement to literally.
if you are lucky enough to attain the political limelight, then by any means scream as loud as you can, and clean up the corrupt bastards that are tearing this country apart and uphold pancasila so that we wont become an theocratic country.
scream doesnt mean just talk, but also taking action. vote, propose a bill, inform the police or make it public any known corruption in the office.
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Cinta Indonesia says:
“kami putra dan putri indonesia bertanah air satu, tanah air indonesia
kami putra dan putri indonesia berbahasa satu, bahasa indonesia
kami putra dan putri indonesia berbangsa satu, bangsa indonesia”I am 18 and I have grown up and lived in indonesia for 15 years. I would say racism exist in anywhere. But in indonesia, it’s particularly tense. 9 years of my education in indonesia, as a chinese, I was always reminded by my parents not to be too close with the muslims and so was my other chinese friends being told the same things.
Muslim parents also said the same things to their kids. Hence in school, we tend to form group. Chinese mix with chinese and muslims mix with muslims. The two different race kid just hard to be good friends.we doubt about each other cultures, religions and beliefs.
Worse still the school didn’t put any effort to clear this doubt that years by years nowballed our doubts into hatred.The existence of chinese-dominated school further intensifies the racism. We are taught the democracy, to uphold pancasila values yet they we are not practising it. Yes, I will say chinese is treated unequally. But chinese is united among themselves. At least I can say there will be no chinese who is starved to death. I am not sure this unity is a thing to celebrate as it seems intensifying the racism.Although you hardly see a chinese government officer but that doesn’t hold a single meaning. I am not sure in other part of indonesia, but in my hometown, economy is almost control by chinese. Corruption takes place, whose money they corrupt, a large sum of it will be from chinese businessman. Chinese should also be blamed for the corruption problem in indonesia. Without them supporting the corruption, without them using the power of money to settle problems by bribing the officers,will corruption become such a big problem in indonesia?
One chinese saying “yi ge yuan da, yi ge yuan ai”. If the young generation inherits the values of the old generation, there won’t be a change. Want to change this perception, start with the young generation as children are the future of a country, shape the children perception and a country perception will be shaped eventually.
cinta tanah air,
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kinch says:
now either you’re a fake or we’ve just discovered the indonesian chinese version of the self-hating jew 😀
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Irman says:
These chinese people had living on the same land with us for hundreds of year .i mean it is already the time for us to treat them as “our own big family” just forget about the past and carry on our own life dont feel sad for past anymore its useless i was poor before but i never feel sad about that and now i really get my own success life now . nothing is forever in this world, you wont be poor,sad,bad forever as long as you want to change it
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orangbiasa says:
As a senior Chinese Indonesian, I feel sad and troubled by the discussion in this forum. I have lived in Indonesia all my life, as a ninth generation (on my father’s side) and 6th generation (on my mother’s side) Chinese. All my life I’ve been called names by strangers, mostly kids I meet on the street. But I have never been called names by any of my many Pribumi friends and acquaintances.
I have lived through the 1963 May riots, the communist and Chinese hatred of the 1965 coup d’etat, Suharto’s rule where hatred for anything Chinese was spoonfed to kids when they learned to speak. I lived through the May 1998 riots, and felt the terror and the sadness of all the tragedy. I have had my share of bad experiences, of officials squeezing my family for money, making things difficult for us just because we’re Chinese Indonesians.
But I have also experienced kindness and helping hands and friendship from many Pribumis. So in my opinion, what it all boils down to is yourself. If you are a good and kind person, people will recognise that, whether you are Pribumi or non Pribum does not matter. You have to show yourself as a good person, a good Chinese Indonesian, to dispell the myth of all Chinese being greedy and corrupt and unhelpful etc. Show them that you / we’re not like that! Make friends with the Pribumi, dispell your own prejudice of thinking they’re stupid, lazy and ignorant, or treating them with contempt!
Only if and when everybody thinks and acts this way will there be change. But if you don’t start with yourself. who will? -
concerned says:
all this “chinese”, “dna”, “racism” reminds me of this :
“You can’t choose your race, class, your family, but you can choose how you live”
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Vera says:
Dear Friends, after I read many comments of yours, I would like to share my personal experience on this. I am Indonesian-Chinese. I grow among some races in my neighborhood. My parents especially my father never taught me to have negative thinking or hatred to any races. In the regime of Soeharto, I once had been sent to a private course learning Chinese language and writings, at that time, my parents just told me not to tell anybody which I don’t understand the reason. When I was in the 3rd class of high school, it was May 1998, when what they say as “reformation” was for me is robbery, raping and destroying. My whole family was so confused where to run, where to find shelter as everybody knows the chinese are most target of the “reformation”. During May 1998, my aunt in China (my grandpa is the only one who came to Indonesia, the rest of our big family is still in China) called my father to move the whole family to China for 5 times, and she got always the same answer “I will not leave my country, Indonesia”. Fortunately, we passed the difficult situation safely.
After what was happening in May 1998, I feel hate to the people who did this terrible, heartless thing without feeling to the innocents. I really don’t have any idea to understand this way of thinking. Why? a big WHY?
Answers always come later! Now I’m working in the office with more pribumis and just 5 or 6 chinese. Until now, I don’t find any difficulties to make friends to the non-chinese out of where they come from, what race they are or anything else. The answer was very very simple. That we are Indonesian!
Maybe during all these time, the chinese and non-chinese of Indonesia just don’t understand each other because of the country political situation and many reasons. Through friendship, we can all have many chances to understand others in many ways. I believe we human beings are all born with loving kindness. I don’t care where do you come from, I don’t care what race are you, what color is your skin, I JUST DON’T CARE.Once, I ask my father a question that his answer inspired me deeply. “Dad, how to become a good Indonesian while I was born as a Chinese?” and my father answered ” Dear, do not forget this for your entire life. China will always be the place where you come from. Indonesia is your country, place you were born, your nation, which you will die for!” From that moment, I have no doubt to claim that I AM INDONESIAN!!
Believe it or not, there are still many stories like mine has not been told. I hope there will be more peace in everybody mind. The true enemy is inside our negative thoughts, not the Javanese, not American, not Chinese, not at all. Stop arguing what the reasons behind what has happened, it’s useless. Look forward to the peaceful future.
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I am Indonesian too. Well said. 🙂
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Dear DXP,
A bit late to respond on your comment, but I hope you can take a moment to think.
Deng Xiao Ping, such a great name especially for chinese. I believe you know what “Xiao Ping” means? It mean perdamaian kecil, a little peace. So, be peaceful. 🙂Salam
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si perdamaian kecil says:
Deng Xiao Ping, such a great name especially for chinese. I believe you know what “Xiao Ping” means? It mean perdamaian kecil, a little peace. So, be peaceful.
I smell you are a hopeless indonesian chinese trying to comfort & blindfold yourself, only powerless & hopeless father to doctrin his doughter to hang-on in Indonesia who had distraughtfully shocked, threatened & intimidated during & after May 1998 riot. You should be around mid of 20 years age, hopefully you are financially independent by now from your parent.
Are you sick person ? I love Indonesia … without trial of the May 1998 riot culprit ? will you let yourself being raped and keep on saying hail Indonesia ? the very respectful nation ??
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Xiaoping also sounds like ‘little bottle’ 😀
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Dear si perdamaian kecil,
I smell you are a hopeless indonesian chinese trying to comfort & blindfold yourself, only powerless & hopeless father to doctrin his doughter to hang-on in Indonesia who had distraughtfully shocked, threatened & intimidated during & after May 1998 riot. You should be around mid of 20 years age, hopefully you are financially independent by now from your parent.
I live in peace with all my friends here, I have love from family and friends. How can I be hopeless? My father raise his children in the right way, he is loved by his big family, that makes him the most powerful in his children’s heart.
I am now 27, hopefully I am financially independent by myself for years. Thank you for asking 🙂Are you sick person ? I love Indonesia … without trial of the May 1998 riot culprit ? will you let yourself being raped and keep on saying hail Indonesia ? the very respectful nation ??
No, I’m so fine, thank you. I love Indonesia, if you love Indonesia too, that’s good. Come and stay to this lovely country to make better change.
Well, of course there is no women want to be raped, but I’d rather to build more schools to produce more educated people in my country, or still many things to do to prevent such things to be happened in the future. Yes, Indonesia is respectful nation. We have most various ethnics in the world that makes Indonesia a great country.Looking at your age, you shall seek for your parental guidance prior to typing any non sense comments
Looking at my age, I shall challenge myself not to have negative thinking about what is around me and do at least one good thing in everyday that benefit others.
Thank you for your respond 🙂
Warm regards,
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Looking at my age, I shall challenge myself not to have negative thinking about what is around me and do at least one good thing in everyday that benefit others.
LOL …
there are May 1998 rapist reading this forum whom surely LOL , …. they are free … live as per normal today … some are actively involved in their new political platform campaigning for their political footing in 2009. Is that okay ?
Geeez … they are now reading your stupid comments ‘to forget & ignore’ the dark history of Indonesia in May 1998. They will one day come & rape you again & again, look at those tortured among ‘Indonesian citizen’ in May 1998Hopefully you are a young & attractive amoy, look at the Chinese & Korean old ladies in their ’60s & ’70s who were forced as the Japanese soldiers’ comfort women in the WW-2, even those old rotten ladies could not forget & demanding apology from the current Japanese gov’t !! and that is in the context of a WAR crimes … they can not forget it until retiree age.
Look at you, still in the 20 & shame on you keeping silent while endorsing the attitude of ‘it is okay to rape me … ‘ without law enforcement, an attrocity & raping committed by our own so called it ‘anak bangsa’. You shall NOT declare as chinese by race, what a shame… I simply said you are traitor to your own country, you like to see Indonesia in status quo, remain in law disorder era, jungle rule and you are okay to live with that. No wonder other pribumi will see you as a weak generation, a generation that easily be bullied by the non chinese. You will forever becoming slave in your own ‘lovely country’ because you accept it full stop, a foolish & irrisponsible attitude as a truly citizen.
Fyi, there are growing population of Chinese Indonesian who will NOT go back to home country until the Indonesian gov’t seriously issue apology of their negligance to protect their chinese citizen during May 1998 and bring the rapist & the master mind into justice.
In this case Vera might have no option but to stay & bitterly accepted the reality as the slave living in their very own ‘lovely Indonesia’ home country. A slave is a bunch of low rank society whom do not deserve to get equality of rights, who always subject to be the target of victim without equality in law & security protection or the gov’t simply ignore their basic rights. In case of chinese in Indonesia, all need to be solved by money … money … DXP hate bribing .. that’s why DXP can not live in the most corrupt country
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Aluang Anak Bayang says:
@ Vera and si perdamaian kecil
I think Chinese with Singaporean attitude should be eliminated or banned from Indonesia.
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Deng Xiao Ping says:
I think Chinese with Singaporean attitude should be eliminated or banned from Indonesia
correct, that is the exact different between indonesian chinese and singapore chinese. The first one remain silent despite being torture & enslaved from generations in Indonesia (stupid). The second one are a bunch of winners & live wisely among minorities malay & indian while equally protecting the minorities in the soverign of singapore. Sgp authority built / maintain & provide funding equally to mosque & hindu temples in Singapore without prejudices & the needs for muslim minorities to ask for neighborhood’s signatures to build mosque. The rules are clear you can read in the Sgp URA gov’t websites. No ‘tedeng aling2’ , no ‘ embel2 for bribery ‘ , no ‘celah2 dlm kesempitan’ which are Indonesian trade-marks in running gov’t
Is that cristal clear ?
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Kadal Hijau says:
Javanese and others can’t get justice also from their government. How many do you think have died during G30S? (while, the west happily helped the goverment in the ‘cleansing’). And how many people ‘dissapeared’ during the Suharto era? The problem here is a corrupt and an ineffective government that abuse its power, justice system that favors only the rich & powerful, and unbalanced economy development. Indonesian chinese can help by being less exclusive, interact more, and not look down at the pribumis. And the Pribumi can help by being more trusting and view the chinese indonesian as an equal citizen of Indonesia. When interacting with each others, don’t look at the race, religion, and the skin color of each others; but think that everyone as a citizen of Indonesia.
To Vera:
Vera, we definetily need more people like you. I’m sorry if any javanese or others indonesian people have offended or were racist to you. Let’s ignore all the racists people from both sides, and work together for a better Indonesia.
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replay says:
okay I’m a chinese indonesian who lived overseas, to be real honest there is a part of me which hate “pribumis” but I’m trying not to be a racist since I believe it’s all depend on the individuals themselves not by their skin’s colors. I was brought up in a family who disliked “pribumis” because all the bad experiences that they have endured in Indonesia.
My father once said to me not to hate “pribumis” since they were nice people. My father is somewhat similar’s to Vera’s, when the 1998 riot happened, my whole family was in shock and they all tried to fly to overseas, they wanted to rescue the women first. But my dad was being so stubborn, he said that he wouldn’t leave Indonesia himself but he allowed us esp. the women to go. I was 14 back then and I couldn’t understand what he was thinking. I was so afraid, all the stories about pribumis raped, killed the chinese haunted me even until now. The 1998 riot was and is always be the reason why till now I can’t forgive “pribumis” and Indo’s corrupted government regime eventhough I realise that not all “pribumis” are bad.
Jealousy is always be the main reason why pribumi despise chinese. They always blame the chinese for the bad things that happened in Indonesia which is really sad. They always think chinese take all the advantages while actually it’s them who are on the easier side. We can have a look at the government officials, etc, there is no chinese are allowed to work for the government and even in politics although now there are a few of chinese politicians. The chinese are only allowed to business NOTHING ELSE! even before during SUHARTO’s regime they didn’t even allow any chinese stuff (names, books, tv shows, movies, language, etc) in Indo which is really makes me sick!!! because no matter what my HERITAGE is CHINESE and I am really proud of it and I’m also proud to be Indonesian but still I have chinese blood running all over my body.
As to die for Indonesia, I think it will be the last thing on my mind…I don’t think it’s the country worth to die for after all what they have done to us. We are indonesians too but they don’t even give us the same rights as pribumis, what a retarded rule, no wonder when it comes from a retarded government.
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dear Replay,
you are a respectful figure of a young Indonesian Chinese man, we need more young citizen who aware of their basic right as Indonesian, exactly like what you shared about your views. No doubt, no hesitate, just say it without hesitation … afterall if those basic rights can not be fullfiled by Indonesian government, being as the young generation, you shall get yourself ready to equip with knowledge, courage to try living in other countries outside Indonesia. Take it as an eye opener that there are abundant better opportunities outside Indonesia and by doing this you feel good that seperate you from the barbaric May’98 dark history of Indonesia & you hv made correct choice for the sake of your future generation. I can see clearly that you know exactly what you are deserving as a layman citizen for just a basic human rights, again sincerely, from bottom of my heart, DXP expressed salute to you !we need more young man & women like Mr. Replay
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you have bigger homework to deal with ‘elite-pribumi’ who suck our resources via their corporation KPC, Bumi Resources, Darma Henwa, etc .. drill Porong and destroy 30,000 homeless family for bleak future. Yes these kind of elite pribumi will never leave Indonesia but their business practices is even worse then VOC / Kompeni Dutch that we used scare it to death !
Btw where is our ex president Habibie leaving now ? hallo ? patriotism ?