Indonesian non reactions to the killing spree by Anders Behring Breivik in Norway.
There has been little Indonesian reaction to the Norwegian massacre – the most searched for items on Detik’s search engine remain mostly old favourites:
Apart from standard official statements; Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa said
We are very shocked and dismayed by the incidents in Norway. We condemn the shooting and bombing that have killed civilians. We express deep condolences to the victims, their families, and the Norwegian government
The apparent fact that the killer was on an “anti Muslim crusade” has seemed to excite little interest within the country.
You refer to skin colour quite often in your posts but of course you mean something else.
Like Anders Breivik intended to slaughter many youths but actually he only shot dead adults of over 24 years of age, according to your reasoning.
And you talking about others having the need update their moral compass while not feeling sympathy towards the victims because they’re a bunch of socialist agitators and it’s a payback for what Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot did.
So Oigal…… where did you read this?
I do note, it has not stopped some from continuing the usual rants against immigrants although even the most nonsensical has had to fit in a disclaimer oh my goodness, there is some white trash involved at the bottom of the rant. I did despite everything get a chuckle at the suggestion by one somewhat disturbed local commentator that the only way to fix the problem was to shoot people down in the street and bring in Russian Hind Attack Helicopters…
Or are you making stuff up yet again ?
Every time you (& a few other regulars) are confronted with a different point of view, you start with the ignorant racist , xenophobic, caricature.
Its shows how divorced from reality you guys really are. This is INDONESIA MATTERS. Hardly a hotbed of white nationalists. Many of the folk here are in intimate relationships with Indonesians and integrated with Indonesian life. They are also immigrants themselves and well aware of that.
Still others are not as “white” as you might imagine.
These good folk are far from the picture you try and create. How do you think your comments look to some guy sitting at home with his house filled Indonesian wife, kids and family?…
You refer to skin colour quite often in your posts but of course you mean something else.
Yep…. When ever I see someone treated differently for reasons of skin colour.
That includes preferential treatment, not just negative things. There is allot of this double standard here on IM, so I end up mentioning it frequently. In real life its hardly a burning issue for me.
Drop the “your a racist” angle and have a read of my previous post.
Actually in case you haven’t noticed Stevo, I am done with you, Frankly I find you have nothing intelligent or worth debating to offer. However just for some of the others as I can understand it’s hard to believe above the chopper stuff.
Or are you making stuff up yet again ?
In short, I don’t make things up, and the quote on the choppers and pining to beat children was from a well known, if disturbed individual who used to post here regularly until the leftist, immigrant, communist, gay conspiracy brought him undone and who now posts from a bunker deep in the mirror of FPI HQ.
I do admit a certain literary license in lining all of the nutters together, curiously as scary as it reads. It is actually more coherent than most of their individual posts. An example of the the logical sum of all nuts is greater than the solitary loon.
How do you think your comments look to some guy sitting at home with his house filled Indonesian wife, kids and family?…
Of course, surpassed by the sheer brilliance of your comments, over here and in the Barry Soetoro and Dating threads.
That’s a good boy Oigal………. run away and lick your wounds, after yet another whipping.
It must be tough being so self righteous, when your surrounded by mere humans.
BM:
I’ll have a go. The current guvverment system of assigning a council house, car, and a weekly stipend of a thousand quid to each and every asylum seeker the moment they arrive in the UK is finally taking its toll.
Also, if the kebab wallahs weren’t there in the first place, nobody would have tried to smash up their shops. Stands to reason, dunnit?
I blame Clarkson for all of this.
Ah, I get it now. So just to check, it goes like this: the white kids involved are expressing a perfectly understandable sense of frustration at the Islamification of soft-touch Britain by bogus asylum seekers and the cultural marxist strictures of the EUSSR?
As for all those black boys, they may claim that both they and their parents were British born, but in truth they are all actually Kenyan-born Indonesian Muslims.
Have I got it now?
One more thing – can we fit the feminazis in somewhere?
Well getting back to the question, that started all this:
Indonesian non reactions to the killing spree by Anders Behring Breivik in Norway.
Could it be the good folk of Indonesia may be a bit more concerned about the bigger wrongs being visited on Muslim folk around the world, by the liberal west?
Maybe they share some of the alternative views I suggested and do not see this shooting as being worse than thousands of dead Muslim kids? (crazy dam Muslims)
I note that the resident self righteous know-alls have avoided speculation on this point.
Could it be the good folk of Indonesia may be a bit more concerned about the bigger wrongs being visited on Muslim folk around the world, by the liberal west?
The only thing Indonesians are really concerned with are:
– Celebs at home and abroad.
– Football, especially the English Premier League.
The (left) liberals in the West are in general opposed to the War on Terror. Needless to say the conservatives in the West in majority support this.
Your probably right on most points Lairedion.
You are probably wrong about the majority of conservatives supporting the war on terror. I doubt many reasonable people support the war any longer, regardless of political leanings.
Remember that the conservatives are not in power, in the US, yet the war goes on and has expanded. It not about the will of the people.
The US needs to bring its people home and sort out its own internal problems. The armed services have done all they can and no more should be asked of them at this point.
Remember that the conservatives are not in power, in the US, yet the war goes on and has expanded. It not about the will of the people.
Yeah, like if McCain and/or the Republicans would have ended this war they started themselves……
One more thing – can we fit the feminazis in somewhere?
Can’t work it out. But that explains why muslims and feminazis are united in an alliance, because they have common enemy. Oh wait, feminazis, which is part of western society, and the rest of western males are united too because they are bound by common enemy, which is muslims and their creeping Islamization. And finally, since muslims are said to be practicing discrimination against women, muslims and western males are also united by common enemy, which is feminazis.
See? According to my simplistic view of things, basically we’re all just a big happy family. Insya Allah.
😉
Yeah, like if McCain and/or the Republicans would have ended this war they started themselves……
One is just a (your) theory, the other is fact Lairedion.
Obama said he would escalate the war, in the run up to the election, and he has. He also has launched attacks on many other countries. Its the only election promise he has succeeded in keeping.
It seems that protecting your leftist figure heads image is of more concern to you than dead Muslim kids. So spare me your pompous liberalisim & crocodile tears over the dead in Norway. You have no credibility at all. Your not caring, inclusive or liberal, so cut the bs.
My one big problem with the left is how they are all to ready to put ideology ahead of real world outcomes for people. A trait you share with many religious extremists.
One of the more interesting quirks of the English language is how Liberal has come to mean terrorist supporting, soft, cancer of western civilisation, gay whale supporter and a knee jerk, redneck, ignorant, racist is now a conservative or worse and more ludicrous a patriot.
As they say…go figure
McCain and/or the Republicans
I always thought that McCain was the best of the bunch, a man with a bit of humanity combined with leadership and with a personal history that would allow him to put the more out there “hawks on couches” back into their place. Of course, he was unelectable due to his age and the very real scary thought of who would be President should he fall. Despite the noise of the shrills, the vast majority of the US electorate are relatively rational.
Tsk, tsk, are you losing it a little bit stevo? Getting angry? Those damn liberals ….. 🙂
Not at all Lairedion. I enjoy our little exchanges 🙂
You probably mean well and want the same sort of society that I do. The point of difference is how to get there.
Its more about method than result.
As for all those black boys, they may claim that both they and their parents were British born, but in truth they are all actually Kenyan-born Indonesian Muslims.
Have I got it now?
One more thing – can we fit the feminazis in somewhere?
Easily enough done; this is because of the fact that more and more women are leaving their rightful place in the family home and going out to work, leaving their kids with nothing better to do than knifecriming their friends and neighbours.
The only logical solution is for these Feminazis to have their wings clipped, a certain reduction in their rights to divorce (for the sake of society, of course – to keep families together), and there’s no need for them to have jobs – they already have one at home! And hell, if they don’t have a job, there’s no need for them to drive either. And come to think of it, they should probably cover up their hair and preferably faces at all times, again, to ensure that the family unit remains intact and there is no temptation for us blokes.
Or am I getting my misogynist groups mixed up? It’s an easy mistake to make…
Easily enough done; this is because of the fact that more and more women are leaving their rightful place in the family home and going out to work, leaving their kids with nothing better to do than knifecriming their friends and neighbours.
The only logical solution is for these Feminazis to have their wings clipped, a certain reduction in their rights to divorce (for the sake of society, of course – to keep families together), and there’s no need for them to have jobs – they already have one at home! And hell, if they don’t have a job, there’s no need for them to drive either. And come to think of it, they should probably cover up their hair and preferably faces at all times, again, to ensure that the family unit remains intact and there is no temptation for us blokes.
Ah, BM, everything you were saying was resonating so hard here I thought I was gonna get an erection, right up to and including the bit about them not driving.
But then, with the last sentence you revealed that you must be a flaming pinko who hates your own culture, appeasing the Islamofascist takeover by sharia freaks who need to be shot in the street, then flogged, then hung. Then shot again. Then sent back to their own countries, the filthy dogs.
I’m all for family values, but it’s also essential that women be paraded in swimsuits in public at every oppertunity. Get it right you cultural-marxist bastard!
@ TimDog
I’m all for family values, but it’s also essential that women be paraded in swimsuits in public at every oppertunity. Get it right you cultural-marxist bastard!
My Bad… What I meant was that women should be allowed to wear whatever they want. So long as it’s skimpy. And so long as it’s not a Nikab. Sorted.
Hey Oigal:
Enjoy this bit of mirror-mirror…
Scary little world we live in but we have been assured nothing the worry about with a Christian Fundamentalist and a nuclear trigger.
Interesting article, Odinius.
These are the guys calling Obama a communist but want to implement a totalitarian system themselves, based on the OT. OK, now I understand a couple of Bachmann’s statements sympathetic to slavery. Slavery is enthusiastically endorsed in the OT but women’s rights are also severely compromised in the OT. So if Bachmann is a true Christian she should pull out, have some kids, raise them, serve her husband and stop acting like some feminazi aiming for the top job in the world.
Michele Bachmann ‘Submissive’ Wife Idea a Matter of Interpretation
Her interpretation of being a submissive wife is too liberal if you ask me. Can any of the conservatives on this blog second this?
Just goes to show that being a fundamentalist means engaging in games of pick and choose.
Also goes to show that when a lot of people, like Bachmann, use the term “Islamofascism,” they’re mostly just concerned that it’s the wrong brand of fascism.
It’s been a tough couple of weeks for the looney cons, the black and white (make that it’s all Islams fault) theory of everything has taken a beating of late.
Prison officials in Britain are concerned that tie pins worn by officers featuring the St. George’s Cross – the symbol on England’s flag – could offend Muslims who might associate it with the Crusades of the 11th, 12th and 13th centuries.
In a report on “race” in a jail in the northern English city of Wakefield, Chief Inspector of Prisons Anne Owers said the banner of St. George, the red cross of a martyr on a white background, could be “misconstrued,” CNN reported.
Read more: English flag offensive to Muslims? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=32674#ixzz1anyyJUMQ
Yep………. you must be crazy to think there is a problem emerging here !
A TEENAGE motorist was told to remove an England flag from his car by a police officer because it could be offensive to immigrants.
Ben Smith, 18, was driving back home to Ingram Road in Melksham on Thursday evening after filling up with petrol, when the officer stopped him on a routine patrol.He checked the tax disc and tyres on his Vauxhall Corsa but when he noticed the flag of St George on the parcel shelf he told Mr Smith to take it down.
Mr Smith, who works for G Plan Upholsterers on Hampton Park West, said: “He saw the flag and said it was racist towards immigrants and if I refused to take it down I would get a £30 fine.
“I laughed because I thought he was joking, but then I realised he was serious so I had to take it down straight away. I thought it was silly – it’s my country and I want to show my support for my country.”
Mr Smith had recently installed new speakers in the parcel shelf of his car and wanted to cover them up so they did not get stolen.
He used the flag and laid it out flat on the shelf so it was not obscuring his view out of the rear window.
No doubt about it, you would have to be crazy to think tolerant European values are under threat.
But Sharia is not just making inroads in Pakistan but actually creeping in the West – particularly in Europe.
One area especially touched by this phenomenon is the judicial system in Europe. Two recent cases in Italy and France are particularly troublesome. First, in Italy, three members of a Brescia-based Maghrebi family (father, mother and eldest son) were accused of beating up and sequestering their daughter/sister Fatima because she wanted to live a “Western” life.
In the first trial, the three were sentenced for sequestration and bad treatment. The court acknowledged that the teenager was “brutally beaten up” for having “dated” a non-Muslim and in general for “living a life not conforming with the culture” of her family. But on appeal, the family was acquitted because the court deemed that the young woman was beaten up for “her own good.”
Yep for her own good (Remember this is in Europe not Saudi Arabia.)
Of course the resident IM troll, thinks a bit of Sharia is ok in progressive liberal democracies and its really not an issue. While at the same time condemming it in traditional Muslim lands. A concern only extended to womem however, because guys getting, hung, flogged and having limbs hacked off is [apparently] not an issue.
Yaser, now stop playing with that keyboard and go clean tuan’s car.
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You mean like the USA is doing in Afghanistan/Iraq etc Oigal ? To protect your western liberal way of life, (well at least that is the official reason).
Apparently your concern for Muslims does not extend to those living in Muslims countries, occupied by western armies. A bit of a double standard that.
Yes I know your not “white” Lairedion. Its not your skin colour I was referring to.