Dating Indonesian Girls
Apr 4th, 2006, in Society, by PatungDating Indonesian women may not be for everyone.
Indonesian women, particularly on the island of Java, are exceptionally beautiful. They tend towards the very feminine side, with lovely skin, are not too tall, and have knock-out smiles. There’s plenty of plus on that side of things.
If wer’e to be honest we have to recognise that many men are interested in a woman who will take care of him, do the housework without complaint, and take care of other matters similarly without much bother. Your average Indonesian girl often fits the bill in this respect, certainly more than your average western woman, the less said about them the better.
On the other hand going out with Indonesian women in a romantic way can have many mysterious pitfalls.
Some women here are clearly only interested in money. Some men are unbothered by this. Others of the female variety, can, once we get to know them very well, come across as practically insane, hysterically emotional, scheming, over-possessive, inclined to, usually fake, attempts at self-harm in order to get their way. As I said, not for the faint-hearted.
There are a few Indonesia dating websites although the area is not nearly as developed as that in nearby Phillipines or Thailand. To begin your online journey on the Indonesian dating scene our very own “Meet” section has many a lady eager for company.
4,898 Comments on “Dating Indonesian Girls”
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Pedro says:
ok. but what about finding a gf when u r older and love the country and nobody answers hwo to find ur beatiful and nice gf even if u r much older then her.
Was out tonight but without luck
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Ida says:
Funny, the only white guys I know who are married to Indonesian women (very kind and loving Indonesian women) are short and rather unattractive. But these two men have wonderful hearts. They are good husbands. Their wives are perhaps two of the most stunning Indonesian women I have ever seen.
The point is perhaps that you reap what you sew. If you look for love, perhaps you will find it. If you look for fun, perhaps you will find someone who is just looking for $$.
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Kinch says:
“The point is perhaps that you reap what you sew.”
Never truer words spoken… unfortunately the kind of lesson most people don’t learn until it’s too late.
To be just slightly pedantic, it should be ‘sow’ – unless your name is George Bernard Shaw.
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Dyakultua bwa says:
when are Bules going to open their eyes to Indonesia – we seem to hear so much on this site from Indonesian women saying how great they are and and Western Men as being some kind of ‘BULE’!
why doesn’t someone think of writing a list of all the things Bules are not allowed to do in Indonesia as a “BULE” ?
maybe someone might like to make a T-SHIRT…
oke i will get you started…
1. NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A FAMILY VISA – no proper visas for Bules married to Indonesian women – so lots of trips and global warming contributions for no good reason. I wonder what OBAMA thinks about this considering he is so hard on US immigration legislation?
2. NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A HOME – Bules not allowed to buy Homes in their own names.
3. NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE HAND PHONE CONTRACTS – can’t get a monthly handphone contract in BULE name.
4. NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE TRIPS ON BEMO’s – without being told to get down every time they pass a Hotel!
5. NOT ALLOWED TO LIVE WITH GIRLFRIEND – yet Javanese neighbours allowed to have 2 or more Wives! Some kind of upside down morality going on!
6. NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A NORMAL LIFE IN INDONESIA – so anything Indonesian women want to say it is nothing compared to the rough time it is living in such a racist Culture! So OBAMA what you think, when are you going to visit Indonesia to see all the racism towards the Bules – the new Niggers of the world?
oke… now add your “NOT ALLOWEDs”?
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crocketman says:
Dyakultua bwa – good stuff – some true laughs.
For some things Bule see:
http://www.expat.or.id/info/buleacronyms.html
http://www.expat.or.id/info/dontcallmebule.html
It could get to be a longer list of “Not Allowed” but there are some recent improvements, of now allowed, or at least a lot easier: I
E: to get a car in your own name, or get a drivers license, and not have use that old international drivers license that had the original date carefully “re-wrote” many times – and purposefully had coffee, tea, and beer strategically spilled on it to make it look very yucky well used and thus not draw attention to all those re-writes.
Although not on purpose, mine once dropped in the toilet, was always fun handing that to the cops after that.
Another bule upshot is I once had to parlay a Bule friends int’l license who looked nothing like me (er visa versa) and the Jkt cops never gave it a second glance – hey bule’s all look the same – in the eyes of the coppers anyway.
The best not only allowed lately but has become a force majeuer is getting your own tax department number (NPWP). Now is this not progress ??? Some things I’d personally still rather not be allowed and this is for sure on the top of the list.
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this is a good bit of information you made and all Bules should take note…
“once we get to know them well – can come
across as practically insane, hysterically
emotional, scheming, extremely over-possessive, inclined
to, usually fake, attempts at self-harm in
order to get their way.”
In addition – add to this Child-like Intelligence, deep rooted racist mentalities and will Cry if all other attempts at scheming money out the Bule have failed.
As you say, not for the faint-hearted at all!
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Farah says:
when are Bules going to open their eyes to Indonesia – we seem to hear so much on this site from Indonesian women saying how great they are and and Western Men as being some kind of ‘BULE’!
…sigh… here we go AGAIN.
If you had problem with an indonesian slut before i am deeply feel so sorry for you Mister. 🙁
I once had problem with a white d*ck head before, at least i never thought all of you just typical same person as that one.FYI, you are the type of bule that i am sure i WILL avoid.
Don’t blame the person or certain species… you know who made such laws about houses, visa, driving license and so on you just mentioned ABOVE?
INDONESIAN MAN. I am sure 99 % of it !
You can’t get what ever you listed above, why you sound like blaming indonesian woman because of that??
Cant have GF at same house while neighbour have two wife eh ? and relate it to morals, etc? hehehe.. theres slightly difference between a GF and WIFE. GF got nothing unless a 5 y/o children to take care of without money if the BF leaving after working contract is over, hehehe… Its just different kind of thing. I think in Jakarta or Surabaya or Bandung you could do that anyway (you do really care what your neighbour say about you?? really?)
About the bemo.. hehe thats funny.. you should ask first how to ride on bemo maybe. Or for your comfort use a taxi ! (why u use a bemo if you don’t even know how to, and don’t have a heart to ask how anyway ??)
And racist indonesian? hey.. we are indonesian woman still struggling here to get the same amount of rights with indonesian men for so many years… and still not achieve much progress yet…you talk about bule racism with us the 2nd class citizen?? hehehe
YOU ARE DEFINETLY “SOME KIND OF BULE” for me 🙂 (too much complaining eh??)
Shut your eyes, ignore and walk away from here asap. Thats the best way of avoiding the girls here 😉 hehehehe…. IT IS FUNNY tho everything you said there 😉
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theimp98 says:
5. NOT ALLOWED TO LIVE WITH GIRLFRIEND – yet Javanese neighbours allowed to have 2 or more Wives! Some kind of upside down morality going on!,
lol and why the heck would someone want 2 wives? i find dealing with one a full time job.
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ET says:
crocketman
Although not on purpose, mine once dropped in the toilet, was always fun handing that to the cops after that.
Brilliant. I just followed your example, but I did it on purpose and left it there long enough to get soaked.
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Steve C says:
As a long term expat (multiple countries) I can see the sides of the argument and have experianced all as well.
I have met many hundreds of girls who think I am an ATM machine.. those are the ones who generally get used and dumped.. wave a carrot in front of them deal..This is not nice but, neither was the alternative they were planning…
I have met some serious girls who are interested in they guy, not the bule and I am not just talking about in indonesia…
I have also met the crazy psychopathically jealous girls who make your life a living hell checking your phone calls, sms, chat, web history… even following you to the condo conveniance store to buy smokes, just to make sure you don’t meet a girl on the way, and hiding in your carpark for months after breaking up (even after finding new BF and moving in with him).
But like all people, not all expats the same and not all asian girls the same, you just got to follow the same rules you would in your own country with selecting a girl.. not assume that your a gift to all women and choosing because this one nice and young and cute and so on… find someone that means more to you then entertainment and can have a good conversation with.. eg. my current Batak Gf is a microbiologist, very smart girl from a kampung backround, so down to earth as well, and we are able to communicate and have disscussions on topics other then the bedroom…
but this is something any guy would normally do in his own country, look for someone of common interest and goals…P.S, I am quite able to sit down with girls of any country even my own and communicate effectivly and to “pick up” so to say..
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@ steve c
well its a good idea if a guy want serious relationship start to look for smart girls.. not the one who always say yes, and smile or grin when you ask question (with that empty eyes).. .. unless you want one of your kids to be like that..hehe
Not all kampung girls are dumb… the most exotic flowers grows in the most place that you are never thought.. middle of jungle or a high and dangerous mountain cliffs.
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TidakMasalah says:
Wow.. looking at this thread makes me realize that my little story really was not so very unusual after all. Following the advice of a very nice a caring person on this board, I have sent my ‘pacar’ a note telling her that I was not going to be an ATM machine. I suspect I will never hear from her again, which is fine, because I don’t need fake friends.
I didn’t go to Indonesia looking for a ‘pacar’. Don’t need one. If I meet someone great, but going forward I am a little more prepared. Hopefully I will eventually make more friends out there and perhaps get to spend time with a quality human being like Farah.
People are people, no matter where they come from, and every society has their more or less savoury elements. But as an American traveling in SE Asia, I was completely unprepared for the whole experience of having sex offered up on a platter, so to speak.
I am not an ugly man, and I am moderately successful, even back in the USA. I kinda resent the implication that Western losers come to SE Asia to feel like winners. I came because I love to experience new parts of the world and new cultures. I don’t need to be in Indonesia to be a ‘player’. But I’m the quiet kind of guy who’s happier to sip coffee and listen to Jazz music than spreading his seed among the faceless masses.
Fool me once, shame on– shame on you— fool me can’t get fooled again.
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Miss Daisy says:
“once we get to know them well – can come
across as practically insane, hysterically
emotional, scheming, extremely over-possessive, inclined
to, usually fake, attempts at self-harm in
order to get their way.”
In addition – add to this Child-like Intelligence, deep rooted racist mentalities and will Cry if all other attempts at scheming money out the Bule have failed.
Sigh… well there you go, if you’re only hanging out with with wrong girls, then you’ll only get bad experience 🙂
4. NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE TRIPS ON BEMO’s – without being told to get down every time they pass a Hotel!
ha ha, I find this really funny.
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kodew says:
Pheww!!
I’ve finally finished reading all 46 pages comments of this ‘Dating Indoensian Girls’ thread….after found this website 4 days ago!
Let me try to conclude some without checking them all back..LOL
1. Farah is famous on her advises on love, many many posts, being an Independent educated Indonesian girl with slightly higher salary than any Indonesian men…correct me if am wrong Far:)…and back-packer traveler
2. Kinch has across on her…well…at least might be just joking and love Durian
3. There were two Michaels and one of them I think has across on her too …..I think…lol…..and having email exchange….but then never saw his posts again up to now
4. Few times this thread has lost its way to some kinda ‘picking up and flirting’ thread…and made it way back…thank you Patung:)
5. There were sad love story between Tim and Dessy…well…to be honest…when Tim’s posts started tend to be so suspicious on the gf he was talking about…then…suddenly a post from a girl named Dessy bla bla bla…wow! I was like watching a sinetron…holding breath…and thinking…oh my…is she the girl…ahhh!..such a sad love story…;)
6. Acapellorustic story:….(have to make a confession…I just copy-paste the name on number 6..lol)….such a sweet sweet storyBack to topic…
Reading some posts here some expats and some Indo woman (on this thread at least) seems like focuzing on Jakarta resident type of Indo girls…which are ayam/bars/uneducated girls who are poor…and smart/big salary/independent Indo girl. Some say be so proud of them self to be a independent and unspoiled girls after studying abroad (so they were so spoiled before?). It seems like either ‘you are uneducated/poor or smart/rich girl’…hmm…what about those girls in between? any experiences in being with such girls?
I believe in phrase like ‘good people are for good people, bad people are for bad people’…so if you want to meet a certain type of girl (according to your intention)…just be a mirror of the expectation. If you want to have fun with girl then you will easily get attracted to ‘fun girl’…vice versa. WE are responsible for whatever happen to us.
Peace:)
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kodew said:
I believe in phrase like ‘good people are for good people, bad people are for bad people’…so if you want to meet a certain type of girl (according to your intention)…just be a mirror of the expectation.Truth. Simply spoken and irrefutable.
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Pheww!!
I’ve finally finished reading all 46 pages comments of this ‘Dating Indoensian Girls’ thread….after found this website 4 days ago!
Let me try to conclude some without checking them all back..LOL
1. Farah is famous on her advises on love, many many posts, being an Independent educated Indonesian girl with slightly higher salary than any Indonesian men…correct me if am wrong Far:)…and back-packer traveler
2. Kinch has across on her…well…at least might be just joking and love Durian
3. There were two Michaels and one of them I think has across on her too …..I think…lol…..and having email exchange….but then never saw his posts again up to now
4. Few times this thread has lost its way to some kinda ‘picking up and flirting’ thread…and made it way back…thank you Patung:)
5. There were sad love story between Tim and Dessy…well…to be honest…when Tim’s posts started tend to be so suspicious on the gf he was talking about…then…suddenly a post from a girl named Dessy bla bla bla…wow! I was like watching a sinetron…holding breath…and thinking…oh my…is she the girl…ahhh!..such a sad love story…;)
6. Acapellorustic story:….(have to make a confession…I just copy-paste the name on number 6..lol)….such a sweet sweet storySipping my jasmine hot tea and read this thread made me smile sometimes, theres lots of drama here 😉 😉
Number 1 almost correct, my salary not higher than any indonesian men, some indonesian men at my company have bigger salary than mine, like almost twice of it. Hehe.. if my salary does sound that “much” why would i become a backpacker? hehe… (thats one of the other reason beside the adventure ofcourse !)# 2 & 3, okay, kinch i notice his “presence” and his durian fetish (rolling my eyes), two other michaels.. well i don’t know…. no matter how silly it was, sometimes i just like to push their buttons (they wont get annoyed anyway) and sometimes because my comment too silly its just out of the topics (sorry Pak Patung and u guys..). If i know things they shared, i would tell them what i think, if i don’t know i’ll remind in silence and read the comments with my jasmine tea 🙂
Reading some posts here some expats and some Indo woman (on this thread at least) seems like focuzing on Jakarta resident type of Indo girls…which are ayam/bars/uneducated girls who are poor…and smart/big salary/independent Indo girl. Some say be so proud of them self to be a independent and unspoiled girls after studying abroad (so they were so spoiled before?). It seems like either ‘you are uneducated/poor or smart/rich girl’…hmm…what about those girls in between? any experiences in being with such girls?
..hehe.. i am not Jakarta resident, i live in sumatra, and i’m not abroad ex student, i am from “B” class/level of public university in sumatra. Same with school, i never went to private fancy school. Using public transport, or “angkot” to go to school, or walk.
My family is just like average Indonesian family, mom civil servant, dad passed away since i was 16, also ex-civil servant.
So i could say.. i am “in between indonesia” type of girl. Sure, i would be very proud to be independent, i almost never been spoiled for the rest of my live.
Theres much poor/average type of girl that smart/not so much into education.I think theres more indonesian girls at any level of knowledge and family wealth into relationship with expat these days, whether she is independent or spoiled, live in Java island or not.
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Yellow Daisy says:
I think there is so much generalisation about Indonesian girls going on in Indonesia itself. Especially for those who married to Caucasians, sorry i do not like to use the word “bule”. I think it has negative conotation. We should respect other races, be it caucasian, asian, black , arab, jewish and soon.
When it comes to dating Indonesian girls, you can’t just judge girls based on knowing certain group of Indonesian girls. There might be some girls who are going for money or whatever, but not every Indonesian girl is like that. There are many good, honest, educated and down to earth Indonesian girls. You will have just to find it at the right time and at the right place. You might not find those in clubs/bars though, unless you’re lucky one.
I met my husband through a friend while i was working as a volunteer teacher and translator abroad. I have never thought of marrying a caucasian guy in my life, but it happens that i fell in love with this one and he was desparate to marry me. That worked out good. Though my parents were not so happy about it at the beginning. They were dissappointed with me because i didn’t go for my grad school but choosing to get married with a white boy :). They were concerned about our differences, what if the marriage didn’t work out. All that stuff that parents do. They are happy now to see that my husband and i are happily married. Btw, i am a kampung girl. Not all kampung girls are uneducated.
I think i ended up talking about myself too much, excuse me for that. Tips for foreigners who want to date Indonesian girls, there is no set of rules OK. Try avoid girls from bars/clubs, unless you know who they are. I mean find out their background and what they do for living. If i were you i would avoid bars/clubs all together to find a girl or a pacar, mostly decent Indonesian girls do not go to bars/clubs. I am stating that from my point of view as an Indonesian and how most Indonesian people percieved the idea of “good girls with good moral”, no judging here. But then again may be i am too conservative.
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@TidakMasalah
Stinker attract some stinker, decent people attract some decent people. I just wonder why people blame on other without taking a deep thinking of what they have done themselves. If we pick up some bar girls and trying to ‘save’ them whatsoever, we should have known and aware of the ‘worst scenario’ of being failed right before we decide. So it’s kinda unfair to blame other only. When the two people meet and agree to start something together, they must have something in common or at least one completes the other right?In stage s of our life we attract people according to who we are at the moment. When we were young we like people because of their phisical appereance, then we, without any suprise, attract such kinda people,and thats all what we’ve got from the relationship..just phisical attraction, so dont complain about any lack of devotion, caring etc. When we look for some exotic asain gf/tall handsome bule, all we will get is such thing only.When we get older (hope everybody been through this) we wish for a partner in life who are caring bla bla bla…then without question we will meet such people. So we will attract people similar to who we are somehow at the moment/stages. We are responsible for whatever we do, we’re not 5 year old right?LOL. That;ss why my great great grand parents call soulmate by ‘garwo=siGARane nyoWO’ means ‘half-soul’.@Farah
M appology, I didnt mean to talk about your salary;). Btw…am a back packer my self at least back packer that travels around……east java! lol…well…3 or 4 cities in East java…LOL
Am a ‘in between’ type of girl too:D: well educated-‘A’ class of univ in East Java student, PNS parent, was ‘naek angkot and jalan kaki’ student, living in a small room (kost), being non-rich because of my idealistic/principle nature (how can I work in shrimp processing or wooden factory while am a vegetarian/do’h!) and surely not living in Jakarta-not my preference. (sorry for sounds like writing a profile in an online dating:D). Doing chores is my lifestyle too!
What am trying to say is I wish people share their experiences with the wide range girls in Indonesia besides some of Jakarta type girls (grrrr…am just generalizing…sorry). But maybe those people are soo happy that they dont have time writing in this thread..lol…But such experiences will be great knowledge for others who are/will be in dating indonesian girls in general.@YD
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@ Yellow daisy
I think i ended up talking about myself too much, excuse me for that. Tips for foreigners who want to date Indonesian girls, there is no set of rules OK. Try avoid girls from bars/clubs, unless you know who they are. I mean find out their background and what they do for living. If i were you i would avoid bars/clubs all together to find a girl or a pacar, mostly decent Indonesian girls do not go to bars/clubs. I am stating that from my point of view as an Indonesian and how most Indonesian people percieved the idea of “good girls with good moral”, no judging here. But then again may be i am too conservative.
Amen ! agree with you. Especially the part of the bars/clubs. Yes sure theres some “uptown” girls love to hang out here, to show how hip they are. But too bad sometimes theres also this worker girls, you wont know the differences sometimes. If she’s a reg- just put more cautions (its not all of them are really worker girls tho).
Theres nothing wrong with being conservative btw 🙂
@ kodew
Well.. sometimes people here do misunderstanding things.. so its ok.
I only ever been “dirt cheap traveling” to Jogja, Malang, Solo, (this 3 city i visit like more than 5 years ago !) Bandung, and ofcourse Jakarta.. hehe..Yeah i think so too, its just too bad, most of them seemed prefer to pick up girls from bars or night clubs rather in office, or any other common places… i guess the girls there more relax and easy to be with (wink wink).
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Roel says:
For european man, indonesian lady is surprising. Most thoughts and disturbance come to you when you go back home and meet european lady. Depan masuk kamar tidur ada eu girls belum sudah mandi ??
Once nice indonesian girl after very nice cooking she start manicure for an hour or so. Not only in the sense of being a service to a man but to create an environment and situation were both people are feeling very comfortable. When you go back with european girl from cinema there is a slight behaviour of “primitve’ in the sense she does not realize that feeling both comforatable does not come from she being a sexual attractive figure alone.
In Puncak I once met girl with jilbab. Before we went to a resaurant she asked me if I would meet her in her parents house. I think it very good before dating a lady she invites you in the circle of her friends so you know she will asked her most trustfull people around her an opinion of your behaviour and character. I certainly see this as a big gap in european woman who think their own judgment is enough to see this man is good for them. Don’t you trust your own friends ?. It is very good for a man to make himself a reputation in front of the people (friends, family) who are most close to his would be fiance. If you are a man with good intentions this is all in your favour. If a man refuses this how can he be good to you as a lady. In times of trouble, as a lady you have to go back to those friends and family for advice and comfort.
I do not understand the attitude of european woman that starts with the asumption “this man is my ideal and my friends and family would disapprove this realtionship but I know better” If you live such a life how can you ever be happy ?I am most curious on post from children of mixed marriage. How is their opinion of foreign father and indonesian mother ?
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schmerly says:
@Roel .. Just one question which part of Europe are you from?
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For those who have not been to I’sia – here’s an few lines about:
You’ve been in Indonesia too long if:
1. You can kill cockroaches with your bare feet.
2. The footprints on the toilet seat are your own.
3. You stop at the bottom of the escalator, in the middle of everyone’s path, to have a long chat to decide where to go.
4. It’s proves your superiority to get into the lift before anybody else can get off.
5. You no longer wonder how someone officially making less than US$300 per month can drive a Mercedes S Class.
6. It’s part of the eating adventure when the waiter perfectly repeats your order and you get something completely different.
7. Often some Indonesian girls swoon as you walk by while girls anywhere else pay you no notice whatsoever.
8. Most non-Asian women, even at the beach in thong bikini’s, now look unfeminine and unattractive.
9. You answer the phone in Bahasa Indonesia saying HUHH … APA …
10. You no longer get pissed off about the fly in your beer. Sometimes you spoon it out and other times you treat it like a lemon in your Corona and simply drink around it. And there are times many Bintang’s ago – you notice the fly is “somehow” no longer in your empty beer glass. Burp !
11. Durian now tastes really good and you down many beers with it – and later you wonder why you are hallucinating.
12. At a large party your 300+ dollar shoes are missing when about to go home and have to borrow 1 dollar flip-flops from the house owner.
13. You don’t think it’s strange that the traffic cops pants are at least 2 sizes too small and his nuts stick out like a 10 year old tomcat.
14. When crossing busy streets you believe that the hanging limp wrist waving motion with your right arm creates a super human force field that repels oncoming 20 ton trucks.
15. You don’t worry about burnt out tail lights, turn signals, even a headlight – but the horn MUST work.
16. If stopped by traffic police you quickly turn off the car, put the ignition keys in your pocket (otherwise the cop will take them), quickly hide your billfold, and innocently proclaim you did not bring any money except the 10 to 20 thousand of old worn out bills for parking money in the ashtray.
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@schmerly
I roam around between Berlin-Warschau-Kopenhagen
my passport is of less interest. Can always buy a Swiss if really needed
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Europe lady has idea she must choose to behave like marilyn monroe or steven spielberg
I am always intrigued how indonesian lady can (so naturally ) switch between her role as the movie star towards the directors chair and back again.
Here in EU, once She is in director chair she never can change back to playing the movie star.
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murphy8 says:
Hello! This has been a fascinating thread! I’m a 23 year old American. I have the opportunity to travel to Indonesia next year. I can pick which part of the country to live in. Just for the sake of curiosity haha…. where is the best place for dating? I don’t mean buying sex or anything like that. Basically, where are the odds best for a foreign man? Any input is appreciated! Thank you 🙂
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Burung Koel says:
Any input is appreciated!
I don’t think that will work as a pick up line.
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murphy8.. I don’t think you can go far wrong anywhere in Java, I’ve never been to Bali, some people say it’s great but I can’t comment on that, getting back to Java girls, they are beautiful, sexy and very flirtatious! you can have great fun with them, especially if you know a bit of the lingo, so good luck and I hope you enjoy yourself.
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schmerly,
I think it is unwise to generalize javanese girls as a whole. There might be some but not all of them are very flirtatious. It is kind of degrading from the way you say it “you can have great fun with them”. They are not meant just for fun unless you’re talking about the prostitute. There are many decent javanese girls who are educated, classy and have high moral value.
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@ crocketman
bwahahahahahahahaha !!!!!
its funny ! hehehe…. (i am laughing at my own people..ohh thats saaaaaaaaaaad !) but its true in many way hehe..@ murphy8
anywhere you could find nice girl, but not at bar or night club.. well theres nice good girl too sometimes.. but its not really the place to find love for sure.. (more to buy love hehe).
Theres some places in jakarta good for “normal” hang out for sure, some are written in this thread i think… i like “Score” my self, cinema i like Blitz megaplex, i rarely went to jakarta.. but well.. thats only my opinion (theres plenty plenty places to go like i said).@ schmerly
hehe what a generalization…. where you find them the most? bar? just really show your class.@ Yellow daisy
Maksud jelek pastinya dapet yang jelek juga, kalo niatnya baik, pasti dapet cewek yang baik-baik juga.. biarin aja.. paling dompet tuh bule yang dikosongin.. hehe…taulah cewek macam apa yang baru disebutin sama dia..Its useless to convince few men in here anyway…. they want to have “fun and EASY” girl, well they will have it, whether he is javanese, or sumatra, irian, maluku, american, spanish or australian, easy girl is anywhere you could get as long as you had what they want.. MONEY hehe..
The more you have the money, the more easy they become, and the more fun too..Easy come easy go, easy to get, easy to go, thats the rule… (wink wink)
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My opinion is no matter where you are come from , what the colour of your skin , what the colour of eyes and hair or how good your body shape ..
Still the most important is INNER BEAUTY.
Skin color , body , eyes , hair .. all of it only appearance and it would gone by the time
But inner beauty will never gone by the time as it is inside everyone heart and soul.