Trousers off for Women
May 26th, 2010, in News, by Patung
The wearing of trousers, jeans, or any tight clothing becomes illegal for women in West Aceh.
West Aceh (Aceh Barat) regency in the province of Aceh in trailblazing fashion has become the first administrative area to ban Muslim women from wearing any type of tight clothing, specifically jeans/pants/trousers.
Criminal
While in other parts of Aceh, where Islamic sharia law is fitfully and gradually being introduced, women are only required to at least cover their head hair and not to flaunt their womanly shapes, West Aceh has seized the day in specifically banning jeans.
Caught
Roadblocks and patrols will be carried out, with the local government preparing 20,000 long flowing skirts to be distributed to women caught in violation of the law. Offenders will be required to change into the skirts on the spot, with their jeans being confiscated.
Offenders will also have their names taken down, and on their third offence will be taken into detention.
Under the new law, coming into force on 26th May 2010, shops and traders will also be forbidden from selling women’s jeans and trousers.
Regent Ramli Mansyur admits the regulation is controversial, but that it is a necessary part of the application of Islamic law.
As a leader I have to implement this law because in the hereafter I will be held responsible for my actions on Earth, and I will be held responsible by society.
He says, in a democratic spirit, that all elements of society support the new law, in majority terms. okezone
265 Comments on “Trousers off for Women”
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Odinius says:
Why should you care what consenting adults do with their sexual lives, Ross?
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Ross says:
If people behave in an abhorrent and un-natural manner, we should care.
Frankly, if they kept their dirty habits behind closed doors, I wouldn’t care THAT much, but the poofters are now using schools to indoctrinate kids into thinking that perversion is just as good as normality.
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Wow, that is happening in indonesia? (barney goes to school). Cool.
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going with oigal and odinius here, jeeeez ross wtf?
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Dirk says:
Ross wrote : “If people behave in an abhorrent and un-natural manner, we should care.
Frankly, if they kept their dirty habits behind closed doors, I wouldn’t care THAT much, but the poofters are now using schools to indoctrinate kids into thinking that perversion is just as good as normality.
That’s what happens when you let them out the closet.”Ross, if you had written this on a Belgian website, the Belgian Centre for Equal Opportunities and the Fight Against Racism (CEOFAR) would have sued you.
Gay marriage is legal in Belgium and in a growing number of European countries like Spain, Portugal, The Netherlands.
My own brother legally married his friend (after having lived with his friend for the past 20 years) on May, 13, 2009.
In 2004, one of Belgium’s leading civil rights groups announced that it intended to sue the Belgian cardinal Gustaaf Joos for violating the country’s anti-discrimination laws. Joos said in a magazine interview that he believed that 90-95 percent of gay people were “sexual perverts” and that the remainder needed help.
The Centre for Equal Opportunities and the Fight Against Racism (CEOFAR), which receives government funding, sued the cardinal because it found his views “unacceptable”. The organisation argued that in its opinion, such statements were illegal in Belgium, which has tough anti-discrimination laws. CEOFAR added that it was suing Joos alone, not the Roman Catholic church.
The cardinal suddenly died, so the court case ended without any decision, but rest assured that there are laws in Belgium which prohibit people from insulting homosexuals. These laws are called anti-discrimination laws.
Believe me, I am very well placed to talk about laws since I am a lawyer.
Belgium is considered one of the most liberal countries, with same-sex marriage being legal since 2003. (also lesbian marriages)
Your ignorance is appalling. Do you really think that homosexuals are using schools to indoctrinate kids ?
Homosexuality is in the genes, it’s something you’re born with and it is not a disease. It also happens in the animal world.
It is impossible to convert a heterosexual man to homosexuality.
By the way, I am not a homosexual man.
On the contrary, I had sexual relations with more than five hundred women of many nationalities, starting at the age of 18, and I am 59 years old now. Next Saturday I will share my bed and my sexuality with another woman and I don’t need Viagra because my penis is not mutilated by circumcision.
Please use your brain – if any – and don’t go gay bashing like the Christians and the Muslims.
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sigh. men wanting to control women.
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Oigal says:
And I presume you are all in favour of incest, if grown-ups do it? That would be consistent with your approval of sodomy Or did you not get invited to those kind of parties?
Come on Ross, thats just a nonsense strawman and better off on the loonie (but always amusing) Barry Obama Thread. If you want to be taken even a little bit seriously then you can do better than that.
but the poofters are now using schools to indoctrinate kids into thinking that perversion is just as good as normality.
Yeah.. it would much better if we handed then over to the local catholic clergy or Islamic boarding school to be indoctrinated into what is ..ahem…normal.. (Stawman 2)
To change the subject..slightly, I find Dirk’s post repugant not because of sexuality or otherwise but the bit about someone can be sued for having an opinion. Ross’s and even the obama slammers on the other thread may have opinions, I find at best silly (but funny) at worst repugant however they should have the right to say it (or draw pictures for that matter). Unless they are advocating violence or restricting my opportunity to enjoy my freedom of speech then go for it.
Never had the desire to go to Europe and can’t see that changing…
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Dirk, you exemplify what is wrong in the West. What was regarded as common-sense expression of opinion until a decade or two ago is now open to persecution by busy-body lawyers. These ‘discrimination’ laws are a cancerous growth in the bodies politic of Western democracies.
Oigal, I never understand why you libs get so het up in defence of these sorry specimens. You and Odinius say that anything goes between two consenting adults, and you adduce your attendance at certain social parties to support your view. But when I ask if you include incest in your wholesale approval, you shout ‘Strawman.’ You can’t have it both ways (or is that another form of relationship you want to debate?!)
Diego, this indoctrination is not so far happening in Indonesia, but is rife in Western Europe and North America.
Going back to Dirk, there are plenty of homos who have been cured, or cured themselves. Similarly, there are people who have been normal for years, married with kids, and suddenly declared themselves as shirt-lifters. Science has not concluded there is a gene that fixes your nature – and statistics show that homos are much more prone to molesting children.
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Its nonsense Ross and you know it, the same as if I say by your obvious support of the far right automatically means you support burning jews in ovens.
statistics show that homos are much more prone to molesting children.
More than catholic priests?
Absolute and utter rubbish! Provide one serious credible link (and no I don’t count Reverend Snake Handlers Website for the Chosen Loons as credible).
In fact, studies actuallyshow by far the most likely molester of children is the hetrosexual trusted friend or relation, outside of the clergy that is..(ok I made the last bit up). From personal experience over the years, almost always the people screaming loudest about those god awful homos, were invairably the ones struggling with their own sexuality and desires.
Ross, if you are that homophobic, you really should aviod the topic altogether. Nonsense statements (rather than opinion) trying to pass as facts is all too easily exposed these days.
you adduce your attendance at certain social parties to support your view.
Well actually no, what I said was gay and in particular lesbian parties were a great place to pick up chicks (Well..I never said I was saint and desires must be fed 😉
And as a friend once said..”Never would F*ck a gay but once had sex with a bloke who did)
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Gosh, Oigal, you’re getting in a tizzy again. Maybe we should skip perversion as a topic if it gets you so uptight.
Simply ranting that ‘it’s nonsense’ doesn’t make it so. If you want, I can trawl through the statistics and give you the search keys, otherwise the IM would be clogged with so much data.
As to your quotes
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you adduce your attendance at certain social parties to support your view.
Well actually no, what I said was gay and in particular lesbian parties were a great place to pick up chicks==========
So as i quoted you… you went to those kind of parties to pick up chicks, so far so good, and then you got a good impression of the homos who held the parties? if that’s what you meant, then that’s what I said you meant. If that’s not what you meant, what did you mean?As to pedophilia, what I said was that homos are more li kely to molest children than heteros. Of course, too many RC priests were allowed to take their vows despite being homo, so of course again they abused their positions.
Try to keep calm…. it’s absurd to say that those who object to the so-called’ gay’ agenda are themselves somehow perverted. Quite the contrary!
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If you want, I can trawl through the statistics and give you the search keys
Just one will do Ross, it’s a pretty bold statement that needs just a tad of substance..
So as i quoted you… you went to those kind of parties to pick up chicks, so far so good, and then you got a good impression of the homos who held the parties? if that’s what you meant, then that’s what I said you meant. If that’s not what you meant, what did you mean?
Ross, I’d reckon you are the only one that is confused..However, straight or otherwise doesn’t really matter to me that much in assesing a persons character. There are far more telling flaws or attributes to be wary of.
As to pedophilia, what I said was that homos are more li kely to molest children than heteros.
And I say again abject, homophobic nonsense..as any social worker will tell you its the close family friend and/or relative that is almost always in the frame.
Laugh..it must be pretty lonely in your world..lets see no gays (cross-dressing pervs and former heads of FBI, I assume get special pass), no people of the left, absolutely no communists, no immigrants unless personal members of HRH fan club…must be a right ol party at the British League bangers and mash night.
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Ya, you are 8 miles high on this one, Oigal, still whinging away about the never-verified smear on Hoover, despite numerous refutations. It must be fun banging the drum for a long-dud communist hatchet-job on a long-dead man.
Obviously, the world would be a better place had no communists ever been seen on Earth, and it is only good sense that immigrants to a country accept and respect its traditions, e.g. those wishing to settle in a monarchy should be loyal to the Crown. What’s wrong with that?
Still failing to explain why homo-hosted parties got you laid (happily) heterosexually but made you irrationally pro-homo as a result. Please clarify – I doubt I’m the only one baffled by aspects of your hysterical outburst.
Nor does your unestablished ‘evidence’ from ‘social workers’ refute my comment on the menace to children. If those close to kiddies abuse them, of course that is monstrous, but it does not impinge on my statement that queers are more prone to pedophilia than normals.
I suggest you lie down and rest for a bit. I’ll get some statistics over the weekend – give you time to calm your fevered brow.
Incidentally, why are you so agitated about this issue? Your debating style is not always cool, but pervs seem to turn you into a raver. -
Swagman says:
and I don’t need Viagra because my penis is not mutilated by circumcision.
Damn! Is that what happened?
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it does not impinge on my statement that queers are more prone to pedophilia than normals
The reference Ross, the reference!! Stop dodging
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Ross said
Diego, this indoctrination is not so far happening in Indonesia, but is rife in Western Europe and North America.
Ach so….
And the outcome is like this, right? :
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Homophobes need to spend some time hanging out with gay people. They are *gasp* not that different from straight people, except that they prefer to have intimate relations with members of their own sex, and crucially, with the ones who also want to have intimate relations with members of their own sex.
Homophobia stems, largely, from the fear that gay people will try to have sex with you. But as anyone who actually knows any gay people knows, this is ridiculous. They’re just not interested in you.
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realest says:
I’m not homophobic and the only gay friend i’ve actually took the importance of friendship a little more seriously than most people (which is a good thing). But taking residence in a country is like living with your typical folks: freedom is not private matters and it’s either their way or the highway. Personally, i don’t see the point of living in a country where their laws don’t protect your rights. I’m sure getting an asylum from a gay-friendly country like Belgium (by voicing your plight to CEOFAR) would be a piece of cake
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Okay, Oigal, I see you are still foaming att he mouth on behalf of pervetrts, so I’ll give you this below to chew on.
Knowing you of old, you will at once rant that the sources are rightwing and thus untrustworthy, which just about sums up your philosophical integrity. Agree with my basics or sod off.
I have rareltyread so much pro-queer drivel in my life, not least your sectarian attacksv on Catholicism. (and I’m an Ulster Prod) How inept you are, to suggest that homo priests molesting kids are somehow disproof of pedophile tendencies among queers. They are cast-iron evidence of what os wrong!
Anyway, here’s a page from WND to make open-minded people think, That let’s you out Oigal, so I will send more later.Report: Pedophilia more common among ‘gays’
Research purports to reveal ‘dark side’ of homosexual culturePosted: April 29, 2002
1:00 am EasternBy Jon Dougherty
© 2010 WorldNetDaily.comChild molestation and pedophilia occur far more commonly among homosexuals than among heterosexuals on a per capita basis, according to a new study.
“Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for our culture,” wrote Steve Baldwin in, “Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement,” soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review.http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=13722
Oya, by the way, the Belgian gay-nazi legislation referred to above is being replicated across Europe. I’d be interested to hear if Oigal supports suppression of free speech in this matter.
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Laugh.. Are you kidding Ross!! Don’t you think it would have been just a little honest to mention Steven Baldwins background and qualifications. Seriously this is going to be too easy.
Baldwin is a fruitcake hard right politician, whose greatest claim to fame (besides hate speeches and rants) is he has has a Bachelor of Arts degree in Communications from Pepperdine University (Now there’s a related field of study for you).
As for the paper (?) The World News Daily, even you should be able to acknowledge it is a right wing nutjob paper of choice, which continues to offer opinion as fact. Laugh, Bill O’Reilly is considered as a liberal by his fellow columists on that rag.
You should have also probably mentioned that “Regent University (We will be generous with that nonsense title for now) is the dilpoma mill of everyone favourite religious and right wing nut Pat Robertson’s. Let’s not also forget that for months Stanford University was being quoted as about to publish this nonsense until Stanford threaten legal action against many of the RWDP for tellign whoppers.
You also forgot to mention this huge paper of redemption (all 16 pages of it..chuckle) has been laugh out of every serious debate since it was presented..
Yawn…. I could go on…but its too easy and no need to further humilate you. You said there was overwhelming studies for you absurb statement. List just ONE reference that does not make a rational reader roll on the floor laughing (and try and be a bit more honest about the sources you quote)
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You are soooo predictable, Oigal. Your comments above were exactly what expcted, and said I expected.
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viz. -“Knowing you of old, you will at once rant that the sources are rightwing and thus untrustworthy, which just about sums up your philosophical integrity. Agree with my basics or sod off.”
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I suppose I need to find a page from Socialist Worker before you would consider it acceptable….laugh? No, Oigal, yawn. The fact of your closed mind is much sadder than what it contains.
BTW, you are still ducking the obvious question – ‘consenting adults.’ so you reckon incest is also just dandy? -
Truely sad, Ross. Do try and stay on topic and avoid the red herrings. If your arguement is that weak, thats fine its only your opinion then run with that but don’t try and claim is backed by anything but your own insecurities and bigotry. Let’s remember it was you who made the nonsense claim homophobic claim that homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than anyone else.
I suppose I need to find a page from Socialist Worker
Laugh, actually no, don’t think I have read a copy since high school.
However how about backing your claim with any reference from any reputable organisation? I don’t think in anyones mind, that a 16 page rant, by a right wing, anti-gay two bit pollie printed by a religious fringe group “university” counts as sqaut.
Ross, you don’t seem to understand nor grasp you have in common with the rantings of groups like the FPI.
BTW, you are still ducking the obvious question – ‘consenting adults.’ so you reckon incest is also just dandy?
Oh my..Ross, do you really need someone to give you a dictionary, the incest, hetrosexual, homosexual etc…pssst…sssh..they are not the same thing. Seriously may I suggest professional help, you obviously have some deep seated issues here.
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But hey Ross, if you want to play red herrings, that Regent University you so enshrine needs some more exposure let’s have some fun..
Here’s a list of some science papers and seminars put together by this mob..
Tools for Resolution: A Scientific Model of Creation – Dr. Hugh Ross
Origin of Life: Comparing Models – Dr. Fazale Rana
Scientific Challenges to the Evolution Model – Dr. Fazale Rana
Scientific Support for the Creation Model – Dr. Fazale Rana
Cosmic Design: Fine Tuning the Universe – Dr. Hugh Ross
Cosmic Design (cont’d) – Dr. Hugh Ross
Hope, Purpose and Destiny – Dr. Hugh RossBloody evolution anyway I guess…
Of course, you are right to highlight the dangers of organisations like this who are behind the push to re-invent the monkey trials by creationist and other myth makers.
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1. Nobody is born gay nor heterosexual, we all started neutral.
2. Overwhelming research has been provided that shows being gay is environmental not genetical.
3. Research also shows that the major “wiring” of the brain is completed by as early as 3 and the brain fully matures by 10-12.
4. In a nutshell, being gay is not a disease and psychiatrist being able to ‘cure’ homosexuality is comparable to creating a manchurian candidate.
5. What we all must remember is that man is judged by their actions, not what they’re born with. You can’t justify killing someone because you’ve an angry gene or ‘killer’ gene.
Basically if you’re not happy with the laws of the land, either shape things up or ship your ass out.
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Realest, you at least present your dubious argument clamly, until you get to the bit about shaping up or shipping out. That’s a sensible exhortation to immigrants, but hardly germane to this issue.
Can’t quite see how you think people are born neither normal nor homo. We are, as far as I know, born as male or female, and that’s for a good reason, continuation of the species.
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You really are getting yer knickers in a twist over this, Oigal, and it is worrying a little that you can’t debate this one issue calmly. What happened to you at high school when you weren’t reading Socialist Worker? Why are you so keen on homos?Seriously, you must stop avoiding the question. If you think any kind of perverted sex is permissible between two grown-up people, you should answer the question. Is incest acceptable too?
It isn’t, surely, or won’t you commit to an answer? Stop hiding behind your bluster, stop attacking the character and personalities of those whose info you don’t like, and deal with the issues.Sure, I can seek out more statistics, and I shall, but today is sunny and I am too lazy to waste good sun-bathing time for somebody whose mind is utterly closed to any argument not from its own think-alikes.
Cool your pro-queer hysterias for another 24 hours, Oigal, then you can have more serious material to disparage because you don’t like the politics or policies of those who provide it. You are sounding like Arie Brand today. (sorry, that’s a nasty insult, but you deserve it!)
Oya. Why on earth should I need professional help? I am usually a very happy fellow, but NOT ‘gay!’ It’s you that’s cheer-leading for sodomites. Really quite pathetic -
Oigal, and it is worrying a little that you can’t debate this one issue calmly. What happened to you at high school when you weren’t reading Socialist Worker? Why are you so keen on homos?
Ah Ross, The personal attacks are telling, honestly the only emotion you raise is one of weary amusement, a sort of Jalan Tikus Glen Beck. Personally, someone’s sexuality does not bother me one way or the other. The personal inferences that I must one way or the other are as ineffectual as they are infantile. “Nagh Nagh you must be gay!!”
please lets grow out of primary school insults…
The only reason I am enjoying is this, is the amusement I get when a bigot quotes a obvious heap of toss and calls it fact and is then unable to justify it in a public forum.Sure, I can seek out more statistics,
Ross, me ol son, you have not trotted out any statistics other the looney personal rantings of a right wing creationist pollie, with his rants published by a university that prides itself on denying evolution. Now I don’t know about you (although I suspect) any organisation that funds that kind of nonsense certainly could not be trusted with any serious studies of any kind.
So I say it again…yawn..prove it JUST ONCE..unless of course you wish (please please, say you do, its the mother lode of idiocy) want to get into other great pronouncements of Pat Robertson and loony Regent University.
Enjoy your day in the sun, careful you don’t get accosted you flaming hunk of manhood you 🙂
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‘Ah Ross, The personal attacks are telling, honestly the only emotion you raise is one of weary amusement, a sort of Jalan Tikus Glen Beck. Personally, someone’s sexuality does not bother me one way or the other. The personal inferences that I must one way or the other are as ineffectual as they are infantile. “Nagh Nagh you must be gay!!”
please lets grow out of primary school insults’…AND AGAIN -yawn!
‘Oh my..Ross, do you really need someone to give you a dictionary, the incest, hetrosexual, homosexual etc…pssst…sssh..they are not the same thing. Seriously may I suggest professional help, you obviously have some deep seated issues here.’
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Does anyone else notice a certain inconsistency in Oigal’s aversion to personal invective against himself and his eagerness to slight others.You’re a sad little chap, Oigal who can’t answer a straightforward question – you are soft on sodomites, but ambivalent on incest. Why?
As for bigotry, your incessant bleating against fundamentalist Christians (and I’m not affiliated to that creed, by the way) is one of your most outstanding features. Pure bigotry. You could team up with the FPI more quickly than I could.The sun has set now, but until you can bring yourself to answer the question, I’m damned if I’ll waste a Sunday evening ferreting out data on poofters. If you are so au fait with their activities, you can do it yourself or wait till I have nothing better to do, which will be around noon tomorrow.
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In a world where 2 gays are allowed to be together and wed on grounds of:
a) consenting adults
b) personal freedomthen by logic, incest too should be allowed. Reasons of less-than-perfect offspring would be moot because two of a kind don’t produce one at all.
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but ambivalent on incest. Why?
Laugh…1. Because its such an obvious red herring with nothing to do with subject at hand
2. I am not the one making the silly statements and calling them facts.I’m damned if I’ll waste a Sunday evening ferreting out data on poofters
Well Ross your the one that said there is just so much overwhelming data out there surely it cannot require that much effort after all you did offer…JUST ONE..
If you want, I can trawl through the statistics and give you the search keys, otherwise the IM would be clogged with so much data.
Guess not huh
I do confess tho, this thread would better over on the Obama thread with the rest of the silliness..
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Does anyone else notice a certain inconsistency in Oigal’s aversion to personal invective against himself and his eagerness to slight others.
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Oigal, you are a very strange chap at times.
If you heard about some geezer eating dog-turds, you’d have to see it before you’d say it was revolting? Come on!
Stop the special pleading for faggots. It’s a vile practice, and they have no excuse. Plenty of psychiatiric treatment is available, just like for kleptomaniacs, so if you are that sympathetic to them, encourage them to become normal.
And I presume you are all in favour of incest, if grown-ups do it? That would be consistent with your approval of sodomy Or did you not get invited to those kind of parties?