Dating Indonesian Girls
Apr 4th, 2006, in Society, by PatungDating Indonesian women may not be for everyone.
Indonesian women, particularly on the island of Java, are exceptionally beautiful. They tend towards the very feminine side, with lovely skin, are not too tall, and have knock-out smiles. There’s plenty of plus on that side of things.
If wer’e to be honest we have to recognise that many men are interested in a woman who will take care of him, do the housework without complaint, and take care of other matters similarly without much bother. Your average Indonesian girl often fits the bill in this respect, certainly more than your average western woman, the less said about them the better.
On the other hand going out with Indonesian women in a romantic way can have many mysterious pitfalls.
Some women here are clearly only interested in money. Some men are unbothered by this. Others of the female variety, can, once we get to know them very well, come across as practically insane, hysterically emotional, scheming, over-possessive, inclined to, usually fake, attempts at self-harm in order to get their way. As I said, not for the faint-hearted.
There are a few Indonesia dating websites although the area is not nearly as developed as that in nearby Phillipines or Thailand. To begin your online journey on the Indonesian dating scene our very own “Meet” section has many a lady eager for company.
4,898 Comments on “Dating Indonesian Girls”
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Stevo says:
“Yawning about feminazis or whatever is actually a show of insecurity on your own manhood.”
You sound like a woman with that sort of reasoning Lairedion.
Why don’t you amuse us all by explaining exactly how it shows insecurity about a persons manhood?………………
(Feel free to embarrass yourself as much as you like)
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That sort of comment typifies the sort of vacuous psycho babel that is produced in abundance by feminist social engineers in the western world.
Unable to accept the reality of human nature, they attempt to impose an artificially reality based on their distorted ideology. This is usually achieved with the force of the state and attempts to shame people into compliance.
The funny part is that (even) the damaged women of the west do not respond well to it. In spite of themselves, they find they are drawn to real men who are able to accept and adore women for who they really are.
Politically correct metro sexuals are repulsive to all well adjusted women, the world over.
Mother nature can not be fooled by the frantic and hysterical blathering of a few western harpies and their spineless male enablers. Often a girl will hang out with these types if she is feeling fragile, but once she comes right, she is off to find a real man, often leaving the pleb behind to lick his wounds (having taken the house and kids)
I advise men to act like men, and the girls will come, no matter where you are ?
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Lairedion says:
BB,
(photos from my private collection that haven’t, yet, been disposed of by my good lady wife are available for a small fee as evidence of my claims)
How much do you want. And can I paypal?
stevo, can you explain then this constant moaning about western feminists? They never bothered me…
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timdog says:
Ah… You see! All this grand old thread needed was a little stir!
Lairedion, the difference is that you actually live in “the West”, and therefore presumably have some grip on how things really are, what it’s really like. You also, dare I say it, probably have less hang-ups and less need to engage in the kind of tragic overcompensatory bluster that manifests in frankly bizarre nonsense about “feminazis”, and a sad belief that braided backpacker chicks (who the average bule lifer in the EFL industry wouldn’t even know how to talk to, btw, and who probably tout hotpants and hair extensions for their nights out at Club Infinity, but who, for practical reasons, are unlikely to do so for a banana pancake down Jaksa), or an individual white girl on a teaching contract (who doubtless feels it’s not worth bothering washing her hair considering the shocking standard of the bule blokes she shares a teachers’ room with) are somehow representative of all the feminazi womankind in the west…
Tragic.
(Incidentally, the reason for repeat recourse to cliches about Jl Jaksa reprobates and filthy English teachers, is the guaranteed howl of protest it will prompt 😉 )
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How about explaining your statement Lairedion………….
They should bother you. The societies where they have prevailed have some of the most miserable, conflicted and unhappy women in the world.
I have previously expressed the view that most women are ok. I often find Anglo Saxton women an unattractive prospect, though not western women generally.
If your not bothered its probably because your are not living in the west with one of the harpies they produce 😉
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Your feminist masters would be pleased with your groveling timdog, if they bothered to pay you any attention that is.
You have been well house trained. Good boy.
Time to change your name to pussywhipped. You have certainly earned it.
Ironically Asian women, not western ones, tend to go for the timid timmydog types. I often see pretty Asian women with truly insipid pasty wimps, of the timdog/lairedon ilk. They even bore femanazi types 🙂
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Well all I can say is mission accomplished Timdog..The buffalo awakes..or is it the Kracken.
Although am I missing something..Stevo the Western women are out, now the Asian women ( is that all Asia or just the dirty bits..sorry bints) are out coz they go for the Timmy types. Seems to me, you are running out of choices..or are we about to launch into a transgender thing? Where is the ol ranting homophobe when you need him for a laugh..He would be at a real right angle, knowing you were on the turn.
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timdog, I’m always good for a stir. And you’re spot on. 😉
stevo, thanks for proving my point. No further explanation needed. Those damn feminazis….
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berlian biru says:
an individual white girl on a teaching contract (who doubtless feels it’s not worth bothering washing her hair considering the shocking standard of the bule blokes she shares a teachers’ room with)
Odd then that she only hangs around with the sad bule blokes and coincidentally enough she frequents Jaksa where she can be found necking back the bottles of Bintang like the best of ’em.
This despite the fact that the local Indonesian female members of staff would love to take her in hand and show her their country and even introduce her to male friends and relations if she finds the western lads so unappealling but she seems to regard such a prospect with the same horror a Victorian maiden aunt would feel at the suggestion she might like to have carnal relations with the domestic staff.
No, I’m afraid she is part and parcel of that slatternly existence that so many young British people feel is de rigeur these days. She spends her nights getting pissed and in the morning she rolls out of bed, pulling on whatever clothes she didn’t sleep in, before going to work where she can discuss how rat arsed she was the night before; the exact same life she would have had in the UK without the mitigating circumstances that she’s not actually living in Gravesend now, she is in one of the most beautiful and fascinating countries on the planet and surrounded by lovely, gentle, friendly people.
Judging by her accent her parents spent as much on her education as a successful Indonesian professional might hope to earn in a lifetime so we can’t blame her under-privileged background.
Thank you but if she is the cream of England’s roses these days then England is welcome to her, the average Blok M bar girl has more class and dignity than her (and certainly better grooming and personal hygiene standards).
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I have not had “relations” with any of those transgender folk (they have offered though 😉 ) Possibly they are the ultimate answer to this feminist onslaught?
I am sure timdog has had commercial quantities of Bencong and I defer to his experience in this important area.
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Musical interlude….
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Are those two any good timdog and did you get their hand phone numbers Dave ?
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well, I might as well keep stirring…
(stevo, a word of advice: for a barb, a cliche, or an insult to tell at all, it needs to have at least enough of an edge to catch a tender spot – hence my aforementioned repeat recourse to stuff about Jaksa and English teachers. Keep ’em coming; why not suggest I fiddle with donkeys and interfere with children next?)
BB – but that’s just it: all misogynist undertones to your pen-portrait aside, do you really think she’s the rule that defines “what western women are like”? Good grief! You’re further gone than I thought.
I just spent a lovely weekend in the Western sunshine for an annual local knees-up. I had three young bule girls as houseguests for the duration, and though they didn’t get up all that early they spent an inordinate (and to my mind pointless) amount of time in the bathroom over hair and makeup. Outside, meanwhile, I was in the extended company of the kind of broad, old-established social group that I alluded to in an earlier post to Mike, a group now at the stage of begining to marry each other and have children. Here and there an other half is brought in from outside, and welcomed, and amongst the women there’s everything from publishers to waitresses, a media professional still touting her 1990s Doc Martins (and still looking pretty good, as far as I’m concerned), and an achingly pretty girl I hadn’t seen for years dressed in immaculate summer style. Amongst the guys meanwhile, a fine stretch from fishermen to musicians, a former underwear model and a few fat sods. All getting on ever so well amongst real ale and icecream.
Thinking back on the fun of it all I can only thank the gods of fate that I never came so badly socially unstuck to end up a terminal case, bitterly viewing the world as iredeemably divided between “Indonesian girls” and “feminazis” through the bottom of a Jaksa beer bottle, and using at best the fading memory of a handful of hopeless adolescent fumbles as the basis for an unconvincing howl of “I could easily get western women; I just don’t want to…”Tragic indeed… (stir stir stir)
(It’s been a while since you rolled that pair out David… 😉 )
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You see your problem timdog is that you like to “stir” so much using hopelessly inadequate cliches (Jaksa, feminazis etc) that it is hard to pin down your point.
I have never used the term ‘feminazi’ in my life, I don’t like Jalan Jaksa, my adolescent fumbles, such as they were for a good wee Irish Catholic boy (thank God for protestant girls) are extremely dim memories these days. I’m a middle aged married father of three and my biggest excitement of the day is getting my kids to school through the South Jakarta traffic in under 45 minutes, so where do I fit in to your pantheon of oddballs and misfits?
I still however have a lot of contact with the UK and Australia and possess two functioning eyeballs and can actually form an opinion independently. What I see of the UK in my more and more infrequent visits appalls me, maybe I’m just turning into a grumpy old man but little about British society today endears me to it. The young ladies and gentlemen (I use the terms advisedly) whom I meet in my professional and social capacity seem to be incapable of forming a sentence that doesn’t have several foul expletives in it and which doesn’t involve a discussion of the truly bacchanalian quantities of alcohol they consumed.
They are barely literate and seem to resent the idea that professional behaviour extends to dress and appearance. Do you know the amount of effort I expended on explaining to a supposedly educated twenty three year old woman that I was not actually some sort of fascist troglodyte for insisting that she purchased a pair of shoes that covered up the tattoos on her feet, on her feet for heaven’s sake! Or how bewildered another young lady was when I explained that if she insisted on describing her sex life in lurid detail on FaceBook then she must under no circumstances give my clients her FaceBook address?
If I am wrong and in fact the modern day UK is a truly wondrous melange of Elysian nymphs and square jawed young Adonises all engaged in the greater expansion of their classical education then I will reconsider my opinion but nothing to that effect greeted me the last (and hopefully it will be the last) time I went to a public house with my brother in my home town on a Friday night in March this year.
Indonesia with all its appalling problems and the Indonesian people with all their frustrating and endearing characteristics still present a much happier environment for me to wish to rear my family but then maybe I’m just a loser by nature.
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ET says:
re. Western feminism vs. Asian and other femininity I wholeheartedly align myself with the Stevo-berlian biru axis. Not much to add except if only Asian women would get rid of their cell-phone obsession.
To punish the feminazis we should all become pussywussy metro-men. Cut the ground from under their feet. They will go desperate having nothing left to grumble about.Lairedion
They never bothered me…
Keep touching wood.
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BB, seriously, what are you talking about???
This began, before you weighed in, as a bit of deliberate stirring over Stevo’s absurd “feminazi” horsesh*t (something you hear all too often amongst a certain class of tragic bule man in “the East”), and then what was actually a rather fun tussle with M.O.You then popped up to discourse on “the joyless dreariness which seems to have infected so many women in western societies”, the reason why you prefer “Indonesian women” with their “vibrancy and sensuousness” and twice-daily hair-washes.
To illustrate this alleged joyless dreariness you cited the examples of the backpacker girls you see passing through (where, btw? Jaksa’s about the only place in Jakarta you’re likely to cross paths with one of them…) – flip-flops, an old tee-shirt, no makeup and hair in a ponytail ahead of crossing a hot developing nation on public transport being unmistakably symptomatic of joyless dreariness, apparently. And better yet, the single example of ONE young woman who allegedly doesn’t wash her hair, and who you have subjected to a pretty obnoxious commentary (but never mind; I used to hang out a lot with young English-teaching bule girls, largely because the conversation elsewhere in the “community” had a tendency to veer repeatedly to “women are bitches” and tales of last night’s adventure in Dolly, subjects I don’t particularly enjoy; sorry BB, I know you get exercised when I trot out “hopelessly inadequate cliches”, but anyone with any experience of EFL in Asia, and without their own insecureties to overcompensate for will be perfectly happy to tell you that there’s a certain kind of attitude and lifestyle which, if not representative of a majority, is certainly representative of a pattern amongst the male members of its ranks… Anyway, aforementioned bule girl teachers, some of who looked pretty damn good to me, had some things to say about the men they shared a staffroom which leave your sneering about the soapdodger looking pretty mild. Perhaps that counts as “feminaziism”?) .
Anyway, according to you these people apparently were the convicting evidence to prove the influence of what “not feminism per se” (but presumably something like it) has done to women in the west (stopped them washing their hair?).
This is particularly amusing given that, in the UK and much of northwest Europe anyway, feminism in any kind of traditional sense has long been declared dead, and the mainstream mode for young women from late-20s downwards is very obviously one involving gallons of beauty products, acres of hair-extensions and a flaming obsession with “taking care of their appearance” that certainly strikes me as “joyless and dreary”, but definitely not in the way that you meant. You also encounter a frankly shocking tendency to “act dumb” as, apparently, becoming of a girl…“my more and more infrequent visits”
Evidently.
But now, you have veered wildly off in some other direction to bemoan general attitudes and educational standards amongst young women and men in “the West”, and about the frankly grotesque effect of facebook on people’s sense of propriety (got any Indonesian “friends”, on that count, btw?).
We’ll probably find a good deal to agree about there (though, straddling the globe as I do, I’ll probably be able to calm you down when you get it into your head that there’s no redemption), but I don’t for the life of me know what any of that has got to do with “not feminism per say” or whatever it is we’re actually talking about here… -
“Indonesia with all its appalling problems and the Indonesian people with all their frustrating and endearing characteristics still present a much happier environment for me to wish to rear my family”
Incidentally, and just to open a door for another potential digression, obviously you are where you are; there’s nothing to be done about that, and I’m certainly not in the business of making snide comments about people’s families, so please take the following as a sincere expression of opinion, and each to his own: but if I had children I would be as unhappy about raising them in Indonesia as I would be about raising them on a South London council estate.
I would want any kids of mine actually to engage with their environment, to be exposed as little as possible to gross stratification of society, to stand at least a chance of being insulated from the most obscene excesses of face-saving sok kaya consumerism, and well, when they reach their teens I’d rather they dabble in good old fashioned weed rather than crystal-meth… -
(It’s been a while since you rolled that pair out David… 😉 )
Do I keep showing that video? Damn. Do I show this one a lot too?
That’s all I got though.
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Timdog, your mistaken about the feminazi thing. It is not a term I use, but I thought I would play along, given your constant references to the term.
In your vain attempts to defend western women, you make repeated references to how pretty and feminine they dress, talk etc. Its acknowledged that younger women seem to deliberately act dumb and girly.
But your missing the point Timdog. The problem is deeper and relates to their priorities and sense of special entitlement. Its not about appearance and superficial behaviours.
You have focused on the packaging only, without considering the deeper aspects.
Try harder…………
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diego says:
Btw, Stevo, question: latin women. Are they closer to western women? or asian women?
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Stevo, well, you were blethering about “shrill feminist harpies” before I weighed in, which amounts to more or less the same thing.
And it was poor old BB who invited the discussion of appearance by making it all about “dreary joylessness”, having convinced himself that a few passing glimses of unattainable long-legged backpacker girls striding down Jl Jaksa without makeup on, and one scruffy white girl bravely wading amongst the sexual refugees of the EFL industry had taught him all he needed to know about western womanhood and their hair-washing habits.
On the other stuff, if you’re not a troll (and having watched you on other threads, you just might be – if so, I salute you, sir, you’re good), then I’ll simply repeat Lairedion’s earlier line – “thanks for proving my point. No further explanation needed”. A walking, breathing cliche of tragic overcompensatory insecurity-adled manhood.
David – beware the quiet man with the camera phone, as they say. I was probably at a house-party with some Canadian girls on the other side of town when you filmed that…
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Laridon never did explain the insecurity/manhood connection Timdog. He probably has his partner standing over his shoulder when he posts, I suspect………..
diego; no idea what Latin women are like, at least none based on much personal experience.
Given my exotic tastes, they would probably suit me just fine. People who have been to
South America have often said I would love it there. Temperament and such like. -
whatever it is we’re actually talking about here…
Yeah, I pretty much failed to understand what on earth you are on about in the previous meandering five paragraphs or indeed the following five either for that matter.
Perhaps you could give me a summary in plain English timdog (you’re not actually still teaching English are you mate can your students follow anything you tell them?). It’s hard to pin down what you’re actually getting at most of the time, sorry.
You had a fourteen line sentence, beginning with a conjunction I might add, and twelve of the lines were in parenthesis thus making it fairly impossible to ascertain the main point. I’m not trying to be rude here I’m just trying to get a handle on what it is I am supposed to debate.
My advice when debating is keep it simple, avoid abstruse allusions and leave out the flights of fancy about who you imagine you are debating with or what you think they are thinking (always a big mistake). Make your point, make it in comprehensible sentences and you should do fine.
I can tell you do have fairly good English speaking abilities but you really should try to rein in the wilder streams of consciousness, it helps the reader to understand what it is you’re saying.
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Nothing to explain, Stevo. My statement is crystal clear. The way you react to it does prove my point. Some hidden frustrations from your part? 🙂
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No it does not prove your point, though your inability to explain the statement, does prove mine.
You may as well admit that it has no sensible meaning and that you just thought it sounds convincing. Really its just a banal snippet of psycho babble. It wont fool any one who actually thinks beyond pop culture drivel.
No frustrations here, I have choices and I exercise them. Modesty prevents me from elaborating on that point, but thanks for asking 🙂
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BB,
First up, note that since Monday I have been trying wantonly to stir this thread. I have been successful.
Some sexually insecure idiots were talking about “shrill feminist harpies” in the West.
Then you arrived to talk about “dreary joylessness”.
You were talking about “not feminisim per se” [NFPS]. But you never clarified exactly what you were talking about.You claimed that NFPS was responsible for “western girls” not taking care of their appearance. You cited unscrubbed backpacker girls you’d seen, and one work colleague, as evidence for this.
Anyone actually aware of what’s going on amongst young women in the West would find this very funny.
I think I made this point. I think you got it.You then segued to talking about general attitudes, educational standards, bad language and facebook use amongst young women AND men in the West.
I would probably agree with you on much of this. But it’s got nothing to do with NFPS, “feminaziism”, etc.Short enough sentences for you?
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Stevo:
Man A comes out with snarling vitriol about “western women”, and some unconvincing claims about “being able to get Western women easily, but not wanting to”.
Man B and Man C (plus plenty of other men with other alphabetical designations) express no such opinion.
This suggests that the problem is not with “western women”, but with Man A.
Taking a look at the nature of the massed ranks of the miserable sexual refugees in Southeast Asia, with their snarls about “feminazis” back home and their bleak howls of “you’re jealous of my life” only serves to confirm this conclusion.
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I call it like I see it timdog.
Like Lairedion, you are unable to explain your reasoning.
You probably also believe in such wisdom as “men with big cars/guns are making up for being small in other places” This is of course total rubbish and is just parroting extreme feminist rhetoric.
The fact this sort of fuzzy thinking has been normalized, in the west, does not make it a true statement.
I can not comment on those “miserable sexual refugees” that you devote so much of your writing to. I could note that using your logic, refugees from torture and mistreatment are just insecure failures. They could not cut-it back home ect. That offensive statement is probably more reasoned than your nonsense.
You really need to think a bit, rather than post a bunch of catchy statements you are unable to support and that fall to bits in the face of reason.
Just like the first poster I responded to, your comments have a subtle racist implication. You can not accept that a man with choices would choose a Southeast Asian, when they had other choices. In timdog land, western women are the gold standard all right thinking men desire. Therefore, anyone who is happy with a Indo girl is a miserable sexual refugee and a total failure in his home land. This does not give much credit to the Asian ladies either.
Way to go timdog, you just slagged off the biggest ethnic group in the world !! 😉
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Absolute nonsense Stevo.
There are plenty of western men out there in relationships with Asian women (and western women with Asian men, btw), who don’t THEMSELVES repeatedly frame said relationships in manifestly racial terms with talk about how happy they are with their choice of a generic “Indonesian girl”, cookie-cutter representative of a standard “vibrant sensuousness”, over the “shrill feminist harpies” with their unwashed hair back home, and who don’t spend inordinate amounts of time online championing said overtly racially-predicated choice of generic partner, while continuing unconvincingly to slander generic women of their own race and nationality.
Like I said, there are many, many of these men (and women), and I have nothing bad to say about them and no judgements to make about their relationships.
You just don’t find many of them blethering about “feminazis” on this forum… -
Oh heaven help us all, he’s back banging his “sexual refugee” drum again!
Timdog, a word of advice, we all studied Freud in our freshman years at university. Most of us were able to deploy half regurgitated chunks of pseudo sexual psycho-babble to impress the birds and show them how erudite we were and how if they would only succumb to our charms all their repressed sexual tensions would be relieved.
Then we grew out of it.
You seem incapable of leaving it behind. For example, I described most backpackers I see in Indonesia (I live in Menteng and work in Jl Wahid Hasyim, I see enough of them in my daily commute) as “unutterably dowdy and tiresome” and “frowsy, scowling heffalumps”, you regard such women in your steamy fantasies as “unattainable long-legged backpacker girls”, we’ll leave it for others to decide which of us has the rather quirky longing for the backpacker girls.
At risk of going off on another tangent but even the most cursory glance at backpackers would convince most rational people that your view of them is a fantasy. I mean why in God’s name do they all look so blooming miserable all the time? They’re on holiday, they chose to come to Jakarta but they still walk around with faces as long as a wet weekend in Ballymena, whingeing about the heat and the traffic! Why didn’t they take a break in Milton Keynes or somewhere if it’s that awful for them?
Compare them to Asian tourists who always seem to be having a great time wherever they go, goofing around and mugging up for the cameras. The Asians are inevitably better dressed too I might add, what is it with western people that they are incapable of dressing properly in a city which just happens to be in the tropics?
Anyway timdog, fair enough, you love Blighty, good ol’ Inggerlund, there ain’t nowhere like it mate. All them loverly bits of totty, not like that foreign muck, all garlic and rice and what have you.
Enjoy it my friend, it’s your choice and you’re welcome to it. Forgive me if I find Asia to be somewhat more my cup of tea.
‘A chacun son gout’, as they say in Jalan Jaksa.
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Yawning about feminazis or whatever is actually a show of insecurity on your own manhood.