Amrozi Execution
May 12th, 2008, in News, by Patung
Bali bomber Amrozi finds love in prison, and marries today, while his execution seems to be nearing.
Love
On May 12th condemned terrorist will re-marry his ex-wife Siti Rohmah/Rahma, who he divorced in 2000.
Amrozi’s lawyer from Muslim Legal Team (Tim Pengacara Muslim (TPM)), Mahendardatta, says the love between Amrozi and Rahma had been rekindled of late, because Rahma was a regular visitor to the Nusa Kambangan prison, Cilacap, Central Java, where Amrozi spends his days.
Once Amrozi is gone Mahendardatta says: inilah
That Rahma will carry on the jihad struggle, that is certain. But not as a terrorist, those who call Amrozi a terrorist, well, that’s you people [journalists].
Execution
Meanwhile it seems that the execution of Amrozi, and fellow prisoners Imam Samudra and Muklas aka Ali Ghufron, will take place not in Bali but in Cilacap, and the time is drawing near. Says Abdul Hakim Ritonga of the Attorney General’s Office: inilah
The preparations are almost complete.
The final decision to go ahead with the execution rests with the minister for Law.
Method
Mahendradatta of the TPM had requested clarification from the Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI) on whether death by firing squad was a legitimate method of capital punishment within Islam. detik
After a person has been shot they don’t die for 5 minutes, so it’s torture, but if firing squads are deemed within the bounds of Islamic law [by the MUI], well then that’s it.
Impatient
Another TPM lawyer, Achmad Midhan, says he can’t understand what is happening with the plans for the execution and why the TPM’s third request for a judicial review of the case is being ignored. kompas
If they’re brave enough just do it now! It’s strange, there are over 90 death penalty cases where the legal processes are complete but the executions haven’t been carried out. The Attorney General’s office should respect our client’s efforts to have their cases reviewed.
Update. Amrozi wasn’t allowed to have the marriage go ahead in the prison, so the ceremony took place in Lamongan, his home village, and he was represented by his younger brother Ali Fauzi. kompas
192 Comments on “Amrozi Execution”
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ET says:
fullmoonflower
if a syahidin (man) will get 72 virgins when he was killed… how about a syahidah (woman)? will she get the same too?
virgin girls or virgin boys?
No, no, no… The syahidah gets none of these. She is rewarded with eternal shopping in heavenly malls and spends the rest of her time in paradisiacal beauty parlours where she gets free mandi lulur for skin-whitening, Botox treatment, and an occasional face- or booblift. Their Visa and Mastercards have no credit limit, their brand-new Nokia’s an unlimited supply of pulsas and the bravest even get a free subscription to Vogue, Cosmopolitan and Kartini.
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Cukurungan says:
Hi Andy,
Nad is a part of one of the biggest problem in Indonesia, HYPOCRISY He lives in a western country yet he condemns the culture.
Every human in this planet has own degree of HYPOCRISY, there are also bunch of bule and chinese who lives in here but also condemns the people and culture in this country. So who is actually the biggest problem in Indonesia …
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raden says:
So who is actually the biggest problem in Indonesia …
The biggest problem remain in the majority who control government funding, policy makers who always turn anything into money .. money & … money.
The chinese & bule minority as it is said minority, it remains as minority matters, they can commit hypocrisy, spit on our nation but it will not make Indonesia collapse. The main problem we are facing, this nation lack of clear leadership and no law enforcement which are reflection of the majority’s integrity.A good citizen is a citizen who creates value & be productive in his works but not to blame on minority. USA never blame on the hispanic minority citizen, China never blame on their bule foreigner PRs, only Malaysia and Indonesia always blame on the chinese minorities .. a similarity of inferiority complex. We must have self dignity attitude and never back down against the minority .. not a good excuses
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dragonwall says:
So who is actually the biggest problem in Indonesia
Indonesia cannot accept what happened today is the result of their own incompetency and reluctance to change for the better but instead thinking that their failure is the cause caused by the minorities.
Many had made contributions into this society and rewarded with denials and detestation out of jealusy from a few disgrunted bufoons running around calling out to the Islamic religion to back their action.
Did the Prophet under any attempt made any remarks that innocent people should be bombed? Do you think their execution to be justifiable? Once they are executed Indonesia will find more and more of their relatives, brothers and sisters secretly working behind the scene for another target, I bet.
But with people like you, that ancient negriti and that All About Bulshit, it will be the biggest problem for Indonesia.
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Nad says:
SORRY GUYS I WAS AWAY FOR TWO DAYS!
I KNOW YOU ALL ARE WAITING FOR MY RESPONSE
SO HERE WE GOMR justiceseeker (Keep this kind of justice to youself ONLY)
If you spoke that way in some parts of the world you would be rightly locked up or at the least investigated. It is dangerous talk and highly uneducated. The Bali bombers killed innocent civilians and the west are fighting islamic extremism,
Get it right! I AM NOT SUPPORTING BALI OR ANY BOMBERS ( I gave you statistics of people being murdered around the world)
But you lot are supporting the killings of Millions of innocent muslims around the globe in the name of Military invasion.
Dont give me crap about muslim terrorism, they were created by you and your ridiculous ideology. and I count those people as western victims as well.
Mr AndyIn full view of muslim women and children. I used to give them a piece of my mind if I was in a bad mood otherwise I would just make a wise comment in Bahasa to them.
Yes We do have problems of porn in all around the world (thanks to west)
but I like to cure the problem at its origin.Nad, military targets and other military personnel don’t count.
Go and read the defination of terrorism.
destroying the infrasturcutre, bombing the civilians in the name of an illegal war, so innocent people can suffer and die of hunger and thirst is not terrorism! SADDEST JOKE I HAVE EVER HEARDWell then you don’t really understand the situation at all. I suggest you pack your bags and move to Palestine. Then you can start your ranting here.
Mr monyetmerah
Yes you are correct I do not have total understanding as yet, but it doesnt mean that I dont understand the feeling of my brethren over there.
Obviously you dont! as you belong to that cult who abuse Nazis and but act just like them.
and by the way Why you guys alway suggest us muslim to leave the west, You ignorant lot! you are like a frog of a well. go and check out the numbers of Muslim in the western countries. YOU WILL GET THE SCHOCK OF YOUR LIFE>About WMD, it does exist. thats all I can say.
Mr Humphrey Samosir
Sorry I am not gonna waist my time on you!
Do your researches before you type -
SORRY MR Humphrey Samosir
CORRECTION!
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NAD,
Why you guys alway suggest us muslim to leave the west
Not all muslims NAD, only the ignorant ones.
Only the ones who keep on condemning the act of the Western World but still receiving the benefits of living in the West.
Only the ones who blatantly defend on ones action just because they are of the same religion.
BTW NAD, you talked about double standard, can I ask why you are not fighting for your brothers and sisters in Darfur? Or how about the starving people in Indonesia?
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janma says:
Mr Andy, I want to leave this country but I feel sorry for many wonderful people here, I really want to bring a change here, i.e women status, I want them to learn that women are not sex objects, I want them to learn how Alcohol is poisining their brain, the death toll on my roads in this country, the pub/ club fights, rapes and family breakups caused by this poisinous drink.
I want them to learn how pornography is ruing their children, I want them to learn not to gamble their lives in their Casinos.
This is the reason I cant leave. You must leave where ever you are as you are not a help to them at all, in other words you are worthless.So bloody arrogant! Like Australia needs NAD (Not Another Dogmatic Dope) to ‘teach’ them how to live their lives….. pleeeze don’t leave Australia NAD! they need you! sheesh!
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Hi Janma,
I am sorry that there are people like NAD and Cuk that exist amongst Indonesians.
BTW, I am trying to propose to raise funds to have people like NAD and Cuk to be sent to Palestine to fight for their so called brothers / sisters, we should only be paying a single journey fare as I believe that they will love to live in a moslem country.
Interested in joining this good cause?
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HELLO! Wake up monyetmerah
I dont live in indo********
Please do generate some funds perhaps you can send it to Palestine yourself to add something good in your list of deeds
and dont worry about me, I enjoy my existance in this country and not only me, people around me, muslims or non muslims they equally enjoy me being here, and that is why I have lasted here 20 wonderful years of my life.
I dont know why you guys cant face the truth.
If you criticise some one be prepare to face critisicm.
I think all my questions went untouched
and all my replies went without any scrutiny.
That is enough for any one to understand the outcome of this topic.
then thats it for me on this
Although I must thank Andy, I enjoy your replies, I hope other can join with same pace next time..GUYS REMEMBER! MURDER OF A HUMAN BEING IS DISTURBING WHETHER IT IS MUSLIM OR NON MUSLIM.
THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL NEED TO LEARN BEFORE YOU BECOME THE VICTIME OF SOMEONES BARBARITY.
PLEASE DO NOT JUSTIFY THE KILLINGS OF INNOCENT THROUGH YOUR IGNORANCE.
WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT SKIN COLOURS BUT WE ALL CARRY THE SAME COLOUR BLOOD
BYE FOR NOW!
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Hi NAD,
Please kindly re-read my statements, I am assuming you are Indonesians. Just to give you some information, a person can be called Indonesian even if he does not live in Indonesia.
As you said murder is murder, so how can you fight for some (just because they share the same religion with you) and not for others? And you said you hate the double standard.
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I couldnt resist in posting this news from today’s SMH newspaper
Another proof of curent American barbarism.
“US President-elect Barack Obama says he will shut down the “war on terror” internment camp at Guantanamo Bay and rebuild “America’s moral stature in the world” during a major interview aired on Sunday.”
http:\\www.smh.com.au
I hope Barack’s appointment is not only a change in colour.
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Oh yes… we must protect the rights of terrorists…since they are so respectful of ours…. munafik banget jadi orang!
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Little you know about me!
I do share my sympathy with anyone,
thats why I mourn for the death of 202 innocent people in your country.
My heart was bleeding for the victims of 9/11 or spain tragedy or vietnam war,
This is where you guy dont understand.
you have this perception that anyone who disclose the evil actions committed by anyone other than Muslims are your enemy.
I condemn the killers of the above mentioned massacre but do you condemn Americans and their allies for murdering/torturing innocents from muslim world?
Ball is in your court, if your answer is yes then we both are in the same boat regardless of our faith, colour or race. -
Sorry! above post was towards Mr monyetmerah
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NAD…. I don’t like killing and torturing any more than you do….. and actually I don’t agree with the war in Iraq because the invasion was under false pretences…. but on the other hand, if radical Islamic jihadists kill thousands in America with their acts, did they really think America would do nothing? They’d just lie back and take it? Turn the other cheek?
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but on the other hand, if radical Islamic jihadists kill thousands in America with their acts, did they really think America would do nothing? They’d just lie back and take it? Turn the other cheek?
Dear janma
Absolutely right!
Do you think this is all started from that 9/11
what about Israel and 50+ UN resolution, Sabirah Shateelah camp through US Weapons and support. history of terror doesnt start from september the 11th.
Lets not talk about who started this, I am sure none of us can be convinced.
Injustices of the world will never finish if we continue talking about who did it first.
Lets preach the solution.
Preach love as the Prophet of God Almighty did,
to condemn US or west for their participation in killing civillians is preaching love.
denying is Hypocracy
same goes to terrorists as well.
I hope this make sense to you!
cheers
NAD -
Civilians are not targets of the US. Civilians are the targets of terroists… if you can so loudly condemn the US, why not as loud to condemn the terrorists? Why only a luke warm, “yes, I dont’ agree with terrorists either” statement?
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stupid guy says:
what about Israel and 50+ UN resolution, Sabirah Shateelah camp through US Weapons and support. history of terror doesnt start from september the 11th.
Lets not talk about who started this, I am sure none of us can be convinced.Let’s talk about this
Battle to occupy Israel, doesn’t start from Israel and 50+ UN resolution either,
Long time ago even when Jesus wasn’t born yet, the Jews had live at Israel. The exile of Jews to Babylon was on 586 BC when there was an invasion by Nebuchadnezzar. And a lot of war happened after, until now
I think that is the motivation for Zionism. The question is who have the most right to master and rule the land of Israel? Is it Christian, Islam or Jewish? any suggestion?
BTW i am not one of them (neither Christian, Islam or Jew)
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Andy says:
Nad-Yes We do have problems of porn in all around the world (thanks to west)
but I like to cure the problem at its origin.How do you know here it originated from Nad and seriously what kind of people are you to meekly follow us in this way. Nobody puts a gun to your heads and makes you watch porn, Muslims do it because they like it as much as anyone else. They also have hormones and genitals Nad and unless they don’t work properly they are going to crave whatever any other race or religion does. As I said the marekt in Jakarta is huge and much bigger than any i’ve seen in the west. I still remember the hypocrisy when your people were railing against the western ‘Playboy’ magaizine but allowed your own to sell hardcore porn in the streets. Typical!
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Just simply do the body counts. directly or indirectly
You will know!
I have posted a website earlier which keeps the record of US attrocities around the globe.
It cant be exact as it was a rough guess but it will not be too short either.
Iraq has claimed big number of casualities by US and their allied criminals“How many Iraqi citizens have died in this war? I would say 30,000, more or less, have died as a result of the initial incursion and the ongoing violence against Iraqis.”
George W. Bush, 2005-12-14.This was to take revenge of 3000 Us civillians.
“The Iraqi ministry of Health estimates 151,000 civilians killed as of 2006-11-09. ”
These are rough estimated total casualities for Iraq.
I would say the damage was/is much more. aftermath of wars are more dreadful. homeless people, diseases, shortage of food and water etc. and very hard to get truth out to the people like yourself as Arthur Ponsobny said“When war is declared, truth is the first casualty.”
~ Arthur Ponsonby -
Nad,
I condemn any act of violence towards human rights.
Unfortunately currently most of these terrorist acts are done by Moslems, which brings down the name of Moslems.
The Americans have their own agenda and have always try to be World Police, I never agree with their policy of invading Iraq (shame on you Mr. Bush).
My problem is that you seems to be leaning towards Moslems just for the sake of them sharing the same religion as you. That is why I am questioning your standard. If I am wrong then I apologise.
You said that you want to cure the Western world of their poisons (alcohol, women as sex objects etc). Do you live in a cave? Don’t you get information that these problems are not only problems in the West but also problems in the Middle Eastern countries. Again I question your standard, you seems to only want to see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear. In that case there is no reason for me talking to you. There is more to life than wasting my time talking to someone with questionable standards.
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Hi stupid guy ( name suits you ) Ha ha just kidding
Long time ago even when Jesus wasn’t born yet, the Jews had live at Israel. The exile of Jews to Babylon was on 586 BC when there was an invasion by Nebuchadnezzar. And a lot of war happened after, until now
Does this mean We new australians should be kicked out from this land of Aboriginals as they had it first???
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Does this mean We new australians should be kicked out from this land of Aboriginals as they had it first???
Maybe, if they have the power to do so,
Don’t ask me back, do you feel that you should leave Australia, if there is Aboriginals want their land back?
Similar question to the Jews on the land of Palestine, do they have to be kicked out from the land, since Palestine own the land before the invasion?
To be consistent, you have to answer the same for both questions
BTW it is just a thought, i am not justifying anything!
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Mr Andy
You are doing exactly the same what western media does.You said that you want to cure the Western world of their poisons (alcohol, women as sex objects etc).
Here is what I actually said
Mr Andy, I want to leave this country but I feel sorry for many wonderful people here, I really want to bring a change here, i.e women status, I want them to learn that women are not sex objects, I want them to learn how Alcohol is poisining their brain, the death toll on my roads in this country, the pub/ club fights, rapes and family breakups caused by this poisinous drink.
I never took the responsibility of entire western world or beyond that
You are (persumebly) in Indonesia, take resposibility of Indonesia.
by the way it is not what I say, visit us in this beautiful part of the world, read the newspaper here you will learn what I said wasnt based on being spiteful.
I love this country hense the problem of this country is my problem.
Newspaper claims we have Alcohol problems, prostitution problems, immorality, pornography, sexual abuses from Churches to the schools (everywhere)
Being a citizen of Australia it is my responsibilty to find a solution of this problem.
Do you get it now?? Are we on common plateform now??? or you still wanna carry on with you childish behaviour.
and the last one being I muslim I do sympathise with Muslims and this is natural.
But it doesnt make me hate others, and guess what this is what Islam teaches us.
Cheers -
BTW, I am trying to propose to raise funds to have people like NAD and Cuk to be sent to Palestine to fight for their so called brothers / sisters, we should only be paying a single journey fare as I believe that they will love to live in a moslem country.
Interested in joining this good cause?
Dear Monyetmiskin,
Ha ha ha…..kalo masih miskin saja nggak usah banyak ngomong lah bikin malu saja…..masak cuman ongkos beli airticket saja harus patungan..
Palestine does not need my help, they have enough men for waging war forever with Jews while I have more important business in here … to remind all my people never trust bule because the bule always offer something that never work in their own country
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Nour says:
To stupid guy,
It is good that you mention the people of Moses and Harun. Here is some history of these Children of Israel.
In Egypt, the Children of Israel (Israel = Jacob, the father of 12 men, including Joseph and Benjamin) were being tortured by Pharoah, who slew their newborn sons and let their womenfolk live (The Noble Quran 14:5-8).
They prayed to God for Him to send a savior to them, and that was the prophet Moses, peace be upon him, who was saved from this massacre by a miracle (Allah commanded the mother of Moses to put him into the river, (The Noble Quran 20:37-40)).
Moses, peace be upon him, spoke to Allah many times, including the time when Moses was travelling with his family and saw the burning bush (The Noble Quran 20:9-16). In these vereses, Allah, The Praiseworthy, says to Moses: “Verily, I am Allah, there is no god besides Me, so worship Me and establish the prayer for My rememberence.”
So the question is: On what religion was Moses, peace be upon him? What religion were all of the prophets? Did they have different religions or did they all come with the same message?
It is clear that Moses, peace be upon him, believed in the One True God, The Creator. And so did all the prophets before and after him. Lets take a look at the major ones.
Allah, The Most Merciful, says about Noah, peace be upon him:
“Verily we sent Noah to his people, (with this message): “I am a clear warner to you. That you worship none but Allah. I fear for you the punsihament of a grievious Day” The Noble Quran 11:25-26.
Allah says about Abraham, peace be upon him:
Abraham says about the idols that his people used to worship: “For they are enemies to me, not so the Lord of the Worlds (Allah).
It is He Who created me and provides for me guidance.
And it is He who feeds me and gives me drink.
And when I am sick, it is He who heals me.
And it is He Who will cause me to die then give me life.
And it is He Who i pray will forgive me my sins on the Day of Judgement.” The Noble Quran 26:75-82
Allah says about Moses, peace be upon him:
It becomes apparent in this dialogue between Pharoah and Moses.
When Pharoah asks him, “Who is the Lord and Cherisher of all the worlds?” Moses replies, “He is the Lord of the heavens and earth, if you want to be certain”
“He is your Lord and the Lord of your fathers from of old.”
Moses continues, “Lord of the east and west and all that is in between if only you had sense.” The Noble Quran 26:23-28
Allah says about Jesus, peace be upon him:
When Mary, may Allah be pleased with her, delivered Jesus and went to her people, they accused her of evil. Mary didn’t speak to defend herself, she merely pointed at the baby Jesus, peace be upon him. And he said:
“I am indeed the servant of Allah, He has given me the book and made me a prophet. He has made me blessed whereever I am and has commanded me to establish prayer and give charity. He has made me righteous to my mother and has not made me overbearing, miserable. And peace is upon me the day I was born, the day that I die and the Day I am resurrected.” The Noble Quran 19:30-33
And ofcourse, the last prophet Muhammad, who was born 571 years after Jesus came with the same message:
“And your God is One God, there is no God besides Him: The Most Gracious, Most Merciful” The Noble Quran 2:163
As you can see, this is all consistent. They all came with the same message and were all brothers. To teach mankind about our Loving and Merciful Creator. This is all consistent because it is the work of The All-Mighty, The Paiseworthy.
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@Nour
From Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, they all came with the same message,
What if sometime, there is another prophet say the same message and claim that he is the last prophet with another religion named XYZ with another holy book which consist the same message which copied, pasted and modified from the all holy books which came before it and he will say, O Human, this is all consistent
So can we say that all human from the beginning embrace the same religion : XYZ?
How can you convince others to embrace a religion with that story?
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Aluang Anak Bayang says:
@ Nour
Moses, Harun, Noah, Abraham, Jesus and Mohammad. Who are these Middle-Eastern dudes by the way? As a concerned Indonesian, all I know is that Middle Eastern Mohammadans sexually and physically abused our maids. The more Mohammadan they become, the more sadistic they are. They are our Enemy No. 1
You should try preaching to your own kind first.
Wasalam.
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Hi Andy,
Nad is a part of one of the biggest problem in Indonesia, HYPOCRISY.
He lives in a western country yet he condemns the culture.