Japan Earthquake
Mar 14th, 2011, in Featured, News, by PatungSome of the local reactions to the Japan earthquake and tsunami tragedy; worries about economic impact on Indonesia.
Obviously the following notes are trivial compared to the tragedy but on an Indonesia focused site….
Via JP
Indonesia’s exports and imports with Japan may be impeded by the recent massive earthquake and tsunami that resulted in damaged infrastructure in mainly coastal parts of the archipelago.
Japan is the country’s number one export destination for non-oil and gas products, accounting for nearly 13% of overall exports, or $16.5 billion in 2010.
In a similar vein, Edy Putra Irawady, deputy for industry and trade to the coordinating minister for economic affairs, said Indonesian companies should look elsewhere:
So exporters, importers and business world alike should be patient or switch to new markets other than Japan
He also worried that the massive Japanese investment in Indonesia would decline.
And the minister of Transmigration and Manpower worries that the disaster will limit work opportunities for Indonesian guest workers; there are currently 17,000 Indonesians there, many of them nurses, and Muhaimin Iskandar is fearful that the companies that employ them will go broke or have severe liquidity problems.
On a more positive note the Indonesian Red Cross/Palang Merah Indonesia (PMI) is going to send 7 people to help.
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151 Comments on “Japan Earthquake”
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Yup, when we are reduced to dropping bug buckets of seawater from Helicopters on nuclear reactors you can pretty much assume we are at the back of the “What the hell do we do now manual”
Bizarrely, A nuclear “expert” Zaki Su’ud from Bandung Institute of Technology (with a Masters in Nuclear Engineering from Toyko no less) said today that “he hoped the incident would not discourage Indonesia from its plan for Nuclear Power in Indonesia”
Honestly, you have to ask what planet do these people inhabit???
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mmm “Bug” Buckets that would be Big Buckets with the New Zealand spelling.
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Hans says:
Allah tells us note to eat pig. Did he also “tell us note-to-use nuclear power?
A simple answer, Allah is a god without the knowledge of physics, the conclusion is that he could not warn of this danger.
The interesting is why Allah had not the faintest idea about physics and evolution. -
At the end of the year 2007/2008 was about 440 nuclear reactors operating in 30 countries. They accounted for 15 percent of world electricity production.
Which means that one in a hundred will have a devastating problem, it is about 1% of them in operation -
nobody says:
@Oigal:
Yes, I still belief we muslim is fundamentally one big family undivided.
First, Shia is just about 10% of muslims. The other 90% is Sunni. There are only 2 country where Shia muslim is the majority and controlling government, out of 57 muslim country. Do you understand the meaning of fringe? You are comparing them as if the muslim words is divided evenly between them.
Second, yes, there are disagreements on some fine points of the Islamic Law and practice, but it is just on things which we can agree to disagree. Not all disagreement are created equal, oigal, you need to think about differences proportionally: there are big differences and there are small differences. Case in point, FPI is persistently hounding deviant groups in Indonesia, but they made it clear that they accept Shia as an integral part of the muslim family and promised not to bother them. Read here: http://news.okezone.com/read/2011/02/16/340/425236/fpi-syiah-dan-sunni-harus-saling-menghormatiYou invoke JIL by mentioning the name of their boss Ulil. Yes they are fringe, ask around you for any muslim who support their positions. It will be very difficult to find any. JIL, Setara Institute, etc, are just getting out of proportion media coverage due to their financial strength and their extreme positions (they always claim support from a “silent majority”, but they never show any proof of this support, while support for MUI is easily found in many poll results).
PKS is not fringe, they can legitimately claim support from at least 8% of population, that is about 20million. In reality it must be bigger, as not everyone who support PKS’ point of view vote for them (nowadays, even Golkar and PDIP can claim supporting Islamic cause, there by splitting the Islamic vote).
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ET:
“Did he also tell us not to use nuclear power?”There was no nuclear engineer in 6th century, so God’s position vs. nuclear technology can be inferred from this verse:
Qur’an 7:56 “hence, do not spread corruption on earth after it has been so well ordered. And call unto Him with fear and longing: verily, God’s grace is ever near unto the doers of good”
Using nuclear tech. irresponsiby (without adequate study of its danger and safety measures) is spreading corruption on earth.
There are plenty of other verse like this, read here:
http://www.islamicity.com/quransearch/action.lasso.asp?-db=Quran&-lay=tblMasterTranslit&-format=SReply1.asp&-op=cn&Topics=1548&-token=Earth:mischief%20%28corruption%29%20in%3C!–Asad–%3E||%3Cta%3Etrue%3C/ta%3E%3Ctt%3Etrue%3C/tt%3E%3Cts%3Etrue%3C/ts%3E%3Cdc%3Etrue%3C/dc%3E%3Ctx%3Etrue%3C/tx%3E%3Cal%3Etrue%3C/al%3E&-Sortorder=ascend&-Sortfield=cv&-find
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There are plenty of other verse like this,
Strangely enough, this also in the Old Testament, texts and conjecture, ridiculous statements, hydrogen atom, is a simple easily explained atom, it has its wavelength, ther is not explained any of kvantfysiks benefit in any religious scripture. to even say anything abt this is to lie to the crowds that you want to have control over.
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ET says:
nobody
Qur’an 7:56 “hence, do not spread corruption on earth after it has been so well ordered. And call unto Him with fear and longing: verily, God’s grace is ever near unto the doers of good”
Using nuclear tech. irresponsiby (without adequate study of its danger and safety measures) is spreading corruption on earth.
Are you implying that the Japanese have spread corruption on earth by building their nuclear plants without adequate study of its danger and safety measures? If they had embraced Islam before building their nuclear reactors would this catastrophe have been avoided?
Can you please send your advice together with ayat 7:56 also to Ahmadinejad. After all he is a part of your ummah too. -
Imagine that there are so many hypocrites who can interpret a text in the most peculiar way, without even blinking, that their motivations are inscrutable is one thing, but that thought and reason went up in smoke, is quite another.
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There was no nuclear engineer in 6th century, so God’s position vs. nuclear technology can be inferred from this verse:
There is a term for this kind of rationale; it’s called ‘explain something away’.
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Oh My…
“hence, do not spread corruption on earth after it has been so well ordered. And call unto Him with fear and longing: verily, God’s grace is ever near unto the doers of good”
Pretty much covers everything you can think of, if you stretch the bow long enough…
There was no nuclear engineer in 6th century
But apparently according to some there was an all seeing, all knowing deity. Lets face it if he/she built the sun must have pretty good grasp on Nuclear energy, so you’d think a couple of chapters at the back of the book would be in order.
Of course, an all seeing deity that cannot be bothered warning people that thousands of innocent children are about to die obviously has a fairly decent blood lust anyway.
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Oh by the way…Still waiting on the confirmation that all Muslims believe the same Hadith, hows that coming? If you have trouble Nobody, I have a about a gazillion references to help you out. All in the name of knowledge of course.
If you are concerned about being quoted out of context I am happy to repost your entire post, just let me know ok?
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Lets face it if he/she built the sun must have pretty good grasp on Nuclear energy,
Well at least he had a certain sense of prophecy, saying that the sun sets in a muddy pool of water. This bears a lot of resemblance with the actual surroundings of the Fukushima plant.
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Oigal:
I addressed your concern about Muslim unity in that comment directly under Hans’ table.as for:
“But apparently according to some there was an all seeing, all knowing deity. Lets face it if he/she built the sun must have pretty good grasp on Nuclear energy, so you’d think a couple of chapters at the back of the book would be in order.”Of course God knows everything, other ways He wouldn’t be God. My point was, no human will understand the concept of nuclear back then. And also, it would be impractical if everything from nuclear energy to illegal logging must be addressed by a single chapter each, we would be running out of paper. So that single verse addresses a lot of things at once: No reckless nuclear plants, no illegal logging, no polluting rivers, no polluting the air, etc. etc.
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AH yes Sorry Nobody missed that.
At least we cleared that up
First, Shia is just about 10% of muslims, The other 90% is Sunni. There are only 2 country where Shia muslim is the majority and controlling government, out of 57 muslim country. Do you understand the meaning of fringe? You are comparing them as if the muslim words is divided evenly between them.
Shia is a fringe sect as well? Hmmm we seem to building a pretty big fringe with all these groups and a bit different to ALL Muslims believe the same Hadith. However at least we have been little more honest this time (I suppose it would been mean to demonstrate how even within various sects Hadith remain disputed and debated).
Second, yes, there are disagreements on some fine points of the Islamic Law and practice, but it is just on things which we can agree to disagree.
If you are referring to the habit of blowing up each other places of worship as agreeing to disagree then I concur yup you have it solved.
Do me a favour, happy to debate you all day long but don’t whine about fringe groups and then quote those pig ignorant FPI thugs and bullies at me. They deserve nothing but contempt and are really the bought and paid for lunatic fringe groups you so worry about. All of Indonesia and the world has seen what brave and noble men (dang nearly vomited then) they are at Monas and watching their weekly tirades/beatings on those who lack the ability to fight back.
I am still puzzled where I mentioned Ulil? Still since he seems to an obsession, I assume you mean the man some bunch of ignorant cowards tried to kill yesterday?
Born in Pati, Central Java , on
Jan. 11, 1967, to a family of conservative Nahdlatul Ulama (NU) Muslims,
Ulil whose Twitter account, @Ulil, boasts more than 50,000 followers, was educated until the age of 19 at an Islamic boarding school run by his father and grandfather.He received a bachelor’s degree in sharia law from the Institute of Arabic and Islamic Studies in Jakarta before completing a graduate degree in religious studies at Boston University.
lil remains a member of NU and was previously nominated to serve as one of its chairmen.He was also involved in establishing the Indonesian Conference on Religion and Peace (ICRP), a national chapter of the World Conference on Religion and Peace (WCRP) based in New York, and eventually became ICRP’s executive director.
Last year, Ulil joined President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono’s Democratic Party, serving as the party’s chairman for the center of strategic policy and development.
Ulil is currently a doctoral student at Harvard University’s Islamic studies program.
the Islamic Ulema Forum (FUUI), repeated calls to assassinate Ulil in 2005, saying it would be halal to kill him for writing articles that lambasted those who wanted to form an Islamic state.
I gather this is another example of agreeing to disagree and all one big happy family thingy? One thing is for sure, he is twice the man than any of the ignorant ones who attacked him.
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PKS is a joke and the video stands as a shining example of their and the fringe FPI double standards..
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Can you please send your advice together with ayat 7:56 also to Ahmadinejad. After all he is a part of your ummah too.
Laugh no sorry ET, that won’t work Nobody has gone off that theory a bit, Ahmadinejad and his Shi’a nation is just fringe group like JIL 🙂
First, Shia is just about 10% of muslims. The other 90% is Sunni. There are only 2 country where Shia muslim is the majority and controlling government, out of 57 muslim country. Do you understand the meaning of fringe?
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Nobody has gone off that theory a bit, Ahmadinejad and his Shi’a nation is just fringe group like JIL
Like diego said: plintat plintut.
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Hahaha oigal it seems that we’ve made a complex web of entangled pasta out of these talk.
I was just critisizing your comparison of different groups as if they are of similar weight. They are not, some are more mainstream (and is much bigger) than the other.As for the Shiite, I and most muslims, still consider them to be part of the Umma.
Being a good human in this world does not mean he is a good muslim or should be an example for other muslims in the matter of religion. Mother Theresa was nice to the poor, but she is not a good muslim, so we can not use her as a reference for religious matters. The same with Ulil and his friends.
As for Ahmadinejad:
well, I think he already have a lot of religious scholars around him advising him on religion. In any case, there is no proof that he is doing any corruption on earth in the matter related to nuclear technology. Building a safe nuclear powered electric plants is a right for every nation, including Indonesia. Why is that everybody in the west wants to stop him?That video means nothing. PKS already said that it is fake, what else do you want them to do? it is now your turn to proof that it is not fake. Other ways you might be liable for defamation/libel.
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Are you angry because the police does not arrest Anis Matta because of that fake video?
That has nothing to do with PKS, but the police. If you think AM should be arrested, you should complain to the police, not PKS. What do you want PKS/AM to do? go to the police station and say “please arrest me”?? hahaha. Be logical man. -
And stupid, I would not like to call me either
a shame that people think the younger generation is like that stupid, but the fact is that not even half are so ignorant.
expert, no, I would not call me. Of course, many of us thought stupid things when you were “young and stupid “
incomprehensible, it will be when these people shake their heads at another faith. How can one be convinced that the Abrahamic deity exists, but reject the second gudomers existence, such as in Hinduism, Asatru and Greek and Egyptian mythology? Or why not Santa Claus? Believing in God is like believing in Santa Claus or a flying spaghetti monster, but it’s still not there. Religion, faith in God, is authoritarianism. To believe in nonsense is not only ok as soon as one refers to a religion, it is even something to be respected. Madness.
The weirdest of all this is that most believers of God and follower of astrology is fully rational besides. It is puzzling how they lose all sense without further explanation. Is there anyone who has an interesting hypothesis as to why? -
I like this the flying spaghetti monster, and will provide all the rice eaters have to answer why, and will provide all the rice eaters have to answer why, it would have been aliens who built the pyramids
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The basis of the rights of security thinking has always been the rights of the individual, but in recent times, one often hears talk of the rights in a society. there is secrecy and a tradition of looking at religion and religious practice as a very private thing, people should have the right not to be exposed to others’ religious symbols in public space. This applies to all religious symbols, irrespective of religion. The general society is therefore strictly secular. If you ask a Catholic why he prays to Jesus’ mother Mary, I get the perfect taste no answer: It’s PRIVATE: God says that we should not pray to anyone but God Himself in the Trinity, Mary is the Mother of God but no God. Everything indicates that we are not moving away from religion but we are moving away from differences between religions; differences and interpretations between the god or Allah or the great spaghetti monster is now so turbid that if no one says who’s who then nobody knows who is talking to whom.
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nobody
As for Ahmadinejad:
well, I think he already have a lot of religious scholars around him advising him on religion.To make sure that Iran’s nuclear facilities are built according to the Koranic principles in verse 7:56?
That’s a relief. Now the world can sleep on both ears. Except of course Israel and the Great Satan. -
realest says:
@Hans: http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2 is a good source of live information. Individual contributions are 3-5 minutes earlier than xtra 3000 feed plus it has an inbuilt sound notification for every update. The info posted by Reuters staff on that site is 2-3 minutes from their subscription feed though. Ive been up all night since Monday night and even rode on the usd/jpy rebound wave from a pretty good level back to their previous all-time low which has turned into resistance.
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Is the edit function broken?
Correction: ‘The info posted by Reuters staff on that site is 2-3 minutes from their subscription feed though. ‘
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Hi nobody,
Islam is one big happy family. Humane. and respectful.
Right.
Here’s a shining example.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/170453.html
A Saudi sniper has reportedly gunned down a Bahraini nurse on Thursday, targeting the medical staffer as she tried to reach a hospital in the capital.
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Btw, why are we talking about islam vs. the rest of humanity here?
I agree with oigal, please move it to a thread name : playing with an islamist troll.
Instead of listening to those islamists bullcraps, useless, spiritually hollow, let’s go back to japan earthquake, I think it’s important to note how advanced the japanese are. Respect.
http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/opinion/awed-by-japans-quiet-dignity/429441
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what’s with this troll/name calling?
I was just answering your comment.
Ok, I will shut up.
How convenient, lost debate, call opponent a troll.
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