Bandung Protests: Ariel & Cloud 9
Jan 14th, 2011, in Featured, News, by PatungThe Mass Movement to Hang Adulterers and the People’s Alliance against Pornographic Devils not put off by driving rain in Bandung; Cloud 9 bar targeted.
Ariel
Two groups, spontaneously brought into life over the Ariel Peterporn case, the “Massa Gerakan Rakyat Gantung Penzinah” (Gergaji) and “Aliansi Masyarakat Penolak Iblis Pornografi” (Ampibi), demonstrated outside the state court of Bandung on 13th January while inside the trial of Nazriel Irham alias Ariel Peterpan dragged on for its nth week.
Despite driving rain in the city the protesters strutted about, even jumped up and down, sang nationalist songs like “Halo-Halo Bandung”, and gave speeches demanding the presiding judge give amateur porn star Ariel the severest penalty, preferably hanging. The rain wasn’t enough to dampen their desire to see justice served, said a spokesman:
Maybe there are some who’d say that this rain would make us stop. They’d be wrong, we are going on with this protest anyway.
The trial is ongoing, with the defence beginning to plead its case on the 13th. antara
Cloud 9
Meanwhile in other Bandung news the popular cafe and restaurant Cloud 9, owned by a British businessman, was shut down on 30th December after protests by – depending on which report is to be trusted – local residents of Bunisari kampung, or outside militant groups.
The reports go on to say protesters were unhappy that the bar served alcohol at all hours of the day and night, and was located too close to a mosque. inilah
However our man in Bandung, Madrotter, says it is likely a local business rival hired thugs to force the closure of Cloud 9, and that some of the protesters and even the police were apologetic towards the owner of the bar over the action.
Andi, the British owner, is now said to be attempting to satisfy the local government on some permit issues. Cloud 9’s 72 staff remain idle in the meantime.
73 Comments on “Bandung Protests: Ariel & Cloud 9”
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sobhana says:
It is pretty saddening, I think personally due to the fact that Luna Maya hooked up with the cheeky bastard, then ended up being judged by the whole nation.
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Thierry,
Whereas the Al Qur’an states that adulterers should be stoned to death
Death by stoning for adulterers is not in the Quran. It’s the arabic custom.
I wrote about it in my blog, and received quite harsh reactions from the fanatics. It might not be safe for me to come back to my hometown for a year or two. *Lol* -
CountNomis says:
What I find particularly ironic is that their precious prophet, Mohammed, was a pervert. He ordered his son-in-law to divorce his wife so that he could have sex with her, then when he got tired of her, Mohammed threw her back at his son-in-law. And if that was not bad enough, that pervert had sex with a 9 year old girl. What a pedophile!
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CoutNomis… did you just say Mohammed shagged his own daughter? Wow. But, strange, why did he has to ask his son-in-law to divorce? I mean, if he just wanted shagaderies with his daughter, he could have just sneak in to the his daughter’s room and have shagadelic experience right away…. Does arab culture back then required couple to get married before they can shag each other?
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ET says:
diego
Does arab culture back then required couple to get married before they can shag each other?
Not in case of war booty or those whom your right hand possesses (= slave girls or maids)
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Diego… sorry, I was in too much of a hurry. I typed son-in-law when I should have typed stepson.
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agan says:
^ lol, great minds stink alike.
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not sure how much i can and want to say here, but now the mayor of bandung, a guy about as useful as a case of crotch-rot has said that the cloud maybe can open again but not with the same owner. guy behind all of this is a rich jealous chinese “businessman”, he’s the guy that organized and paid for the “muslim” demonstration, really would like to give more details even if it was only to fxck with this dickhead who’s behind all this but better not (yet) lah, lots of people without a job now and we’ve lost the only place in bandung that was still worth going to:(
indonesia 2011 lah…..
I almost start talking about bandung’s red-light district ceritam:) you wouldn’t believe that story! then again, you probably would….
sigh…..
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Do tell rotter….
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ah, nothing special really, just what is to be expected, a couple of years back our beloved mayor, the one who is about as useful as a heartattack on a sunday afternoon closed down ceritam TOGETHER WITH THE FPI saying “ceritam existed for more than 200 years today I am closing it down!!!”. well, the smaller places stopped operating, the girls who in ceritam got their monthly health/aids checks had to ply their trade on the streets where they usually fall victim to the cops who force them to give blowjobs etc. or else face the re-education concentration camps around cirebon. anyways, they’ve been operating for quiet a while again only now they not only have to bribe the cops to stay open they gotta pay the FPI too:)
nothing shocking really nowadays….
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ceritam? You mean SARITEM?
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Indeed, I must admit I still wince at your previous description of these girls who are picked up by the local Johnny hops. One does wonder where the breaking point is? Cannot be that far away before all hell breaks loose.
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well, with the fpi basically telling sby to bring it on it might come sooner then you think…. certainly hope not, ’98 was quiet enough for me personally
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Fortunately I was in Kupang in 98, quiet there.
Curiously, I was out recently with a young lass, who is pretty well connected with one of larger street gangs in Surabaya, friends like your Chinese mate and the pig rotten elite may find the FPI are the least of their problems if the talk stops and becomes action..it was draw dropping the anger and hatred.. -
hehehe, when suharto came back from saudi i was on my way to the airport for a short holiday back to holland, found myself in a taxi on the jalan tol to the airport and it was crazy, they smashed in the windows of the taxi and i only made it because of the quick thinking of the cab driver who managd to get me out of there with me hiding under a blanket, he drove me all the way back home to bandung. next day i tried reaching the airport again, took the train to gambir but about half the way to jakarta the train couldn’t go on because a whole train station was on fire,it was huge. we were all koarded into busses that dropped everybody at gambir. there was this english couple with a small kid, i later read about an english couple and a small kid getting mugged with the dad dragged out of a taxi and beaten up, it had to be them. walking to jaksa it was already dark, everything burning, groups of people running around, militairy guys in tanks shouting at me that i was crazy to be walking alone…. found myself a taxi and the driver was a giant guy with a huge afro and he started taking the wrong way, i got worries because the night before two english guys were murdered on their way to the airport, we were talking and the conversation went to religion. told him that i was circumsized only a few months earlier and he became quiet ecstatic shaking my hand calling me his brother and he turned around the car and drove me straight to the airport…. pretty crazy and about as scary as being taken prisoner in north thailand by karen hilltribe rebels being taken into birma in ’92:)
anyways, the hatred and the anger, you’re right oigal, this place is like a volcano about to go off and what keeps surprising me is that NOTHING is being reported in the west, all the papers etc. write about indonesia over there is that the economy is booming and how democratic indonesia has become. yeah sure, but for whom? you think the fpi would have as many members if people could get decent jobs? make decent money? most of these poor under- or uneducated folks are full with hatred and anger and have no direction to point their hatred and anger to, in some ways it’s like the SA in germany in the 30’s…..
i’m a bit worried man….
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Mmmm…Makes my Kupang story rather tame, best we got was the burning of the Muslim fishing village and then complaining about the price of fish a week later. It was surreal but hardly dangerous (unless you happen to be a Muslim Fisherman I guess).
Interestingly as ET pointed out elsewhere, ‘seemingly’ random acts of insane violence are not the sole domain of the lunatic Muslim fringe. The AMOK gene runs deep across the whole country.
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timdog says:
Yep, the anger…
There has definitely been some kind of an uptick in the last couple of years.I’ve at times lately wondered if it’s just me, but I don’t think it is: the hordes of financially frustrated under/unemployed young men who loiter on street corners Indonesia over do seem to have taken on a slightly more aggressive, unpleasant air.
Like I said, I have been wondering if it was just me, but I don’t think it is, not entirely (though it is, of course, always possible for us omong-kosonging bules to over-hype such things)…Needless to say this has NOTHING to do with “Indonesia’s irresistible descent into Islamist shariah tyranny” or whatever it is they call it. Still talking about that is somehow easier, and in a perverse way more comforting, than considering an amorphous, unfocused air of discontent and discord…
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I’ve at times lately wondered if it’s just me, but I don’t think it is: the hordes of financially frustrated under/unemployed young men who loiter on street corners Indonesia over do seem to have taken on a slightly more aggressive, unpleasant air.
O yes, the ‘grubby little boys’, isn’t it timdog?
Needless to say this has NOTHING to do with “Indonesia’s irresistible descent into Islamist shariah tyranny” or whatever it is they call it.
But you forget that these ‘grubby little boys’ are a welcome tool in the hands of those with a more comprehensive agenda, especially if you take into account the ease with which they can be stirred up into a state of uncontrollable amok.
Hasn’t history proven anything yet?
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Lairedion says:
ET
But you forget that these ‘grubby little boys’ are a welcome tool in the hands of those with a more comprehensive agenda
That’s right. Timur Pradopo, the Kapolri, himself stated the FPI can be helpful with solving safety issues:
Timur Pradopo: FPI Bisa Bantu KeamananOf course the Ahmadiyah, the (Batak) Christians in Bekasi and Bogor and the fallen pop star are a major concern when it comes to safety.
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madrotter
i’m a bit worried man….
I can sense these feelings. Many of my relatives are pondering to leave Indonesia, or at least Java, because of those “grubbly little boys” but you cannot explain this to naive bules like timdog.
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Lairedion
Of course the Ahmadiyah, the (Batak) Christians in Bekasi and Bogor and the fallen pop star are a major concern when it comes to safety.
IMHO, the Ahmadiah, the Christians in Bekasi and Bogor and even the fallen pop star are just test cases to see how far they can go before the authorities, or what’s left of them, clamp down on them. The ultimate aim is to topple the regime. Munarman’s of the FPI unashamed and unpunished response to SBY’s speech against religious violence
I don’t want to comment because it wasn’t important. Nobody listens [to him].
and the threat of the mysterious rally in Surabaya on March 11 with no specific theme or purpose are clear signs on the wall.
I hope I am wrong.
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But you forget that these ‘grubby little boys’ are a welcome tool in the hands of those with a more comprehensive agenda
At what point did I ever say otherwise, ET & Lairedion?
But here’s the thing: one place where that uptick in the aggressive, unpleasant air has been particularly, unmistakably palpable would be the dusty one-horse towns of NTT. Somehow seems pretty unlikely that those grubby little boys are going to become tools in the hands of the FPI, but I’d wager plenty that give them a pretext these days and they’d beat a fellow human being to a lifeless bundle of broken bones and bruised flesh just as quickly as their brethren at the other end of the archipelago. Perhaps fitting that into your monodimensional worldview is hard…
How about this: little commented, but often there if you look carefully in the reports is the idea that Mob A believed that Amadiyah followers get free money from their organisation, or that Mob B had heard that Christians were rich and are given free handouts from their churches…
I NEVER said the ability of groups – including Islamist ones – to harness the banal aggression and frustrations of grubby little boys wasn’t a deeply alarming thing; I also never said that the Indonesian authorities’ apparent policy of offering saps to certain groups wasn’t wrong-headed and disturbing and potentially catastrophic (even if it is an attempt at giving ’em enough rope, according to some theorists – personally I don’t buy it in this case, although this is almost certainly what the Pakistanis did with the Taliban in Swat, btw, quite effectively in that very narrow case within their wider chaos. But, anyway, giving ’em enough rope always carries the innate risk of you ending up swinging from the lamppost before them, though I’d still wager that that outcome is far less likely in Indonesia than the hysterics make out).
I also never said that there wasn’t an equally disturbing possibility that certain high-up elements might think that letting the grubby little boys let off steam through the very narrow vent of “religious strife” is a good way to keep it “contained” and (miss)focused – and if those grubby little boys in Maumere happen one day to beat someone to death for whatever reason, well, it’s far enough away to be out of sight and out of mind…BUT, given that omong kosonging bules on internet forums aren’t actually in much of a position to influence policy, or quite frankly to do anything other than navel-gaze, why the need, when someone even dares to suggest asking what the wider issues might be, to snarl like rabid Bali dogs (or boys on the street in Waingapu at a passer-by) about “naivety” and blahblahblah?
I suppose jerking yourself into a perversely satisfied stupor over the idea that Islamism (or, F**k it, why not? – Islam itself) is the root of all evil and that any contrary or more complex evidence can be dismissed out of hand as irrelevant aberrations is just easier, eh? And if those boys on the street in Kalabahi do happen to run amok, well they’re out of sight and out of mind for you too…
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realest says:
Associating poverty-induced violence to a certain ethnicity sounds pretty ignorant to me. By that definition I would assume Germans, French, Irish and just about every race out there are born barbarians with inferior genes.
-A hungry man is an angry man
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Arie Brand says:
Would Java be any more violent than it was in the fifties and sixties?
In the fifties we had the agitation and mass demonstrations against the British (‘konfrontasi’) and the Dutch (Papua). we also had the show trials against people such as Jungschlaeger, Schmidt and others – accused of plotting against the Republic. Absolute rubbish. I remember that the defence lawyer of these people, a certain Bouman, was himself threatened with prosecution. He fled and his wife, who was trained in classics but not in law, took over the defence. At one point she had to be saved by a reporter from a mob that seemed intent on lynching her.
In the sixties we had of course the Gestapu coup massacres.
And then to think that Multatuli called the Javanese ‘the gentlest people on earth’. Yes, but a people that can apparently be easily egged on.
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timdog,
I suppose jerking yourself into a perversely satisfied stupor over the idea that Islamism (or, F**k it, why not? – Islam itself) is the root of all evil and that any contrary or more complex evidence can be dismissed out of hand as irrelevant aberrations is just easier, eh? And if those boys on the street in Kalabahi do happen to run amok, well they’re out of sight and out of mind for you too…
Meh…I bet that’s of great comfort for all Ahmadiyah, Christians and other minorities living in fear in West Java and throughout the country.
Things are rapidly deteriorating and since the FPI and similar groups proudly boast about their religion we have no option but to judge them accordingly, whatever their real motives are or whoever the dalang is.
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ehrr yes diego i meant saritem:)
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@timdog
Skipping the rest of your disproportionate literary outburst, here’s a couple remarks
How about this: little commented, but often there if you look carefully in the reports is the idea that Mob A believed that Amadiyah followers get free money from their organisation, or that Mob B had heard that Christians were rich and are given free handouts from their churches…
O yes, economic jealousy, that would make it OK or at least an attenuating circumstance, like the pogroms against the Chinese in May 1998. As long as one stays politically correct and doesn’t become a whistle blower that might hurt Islamic feelings. But if Islam like you seem to suggest is a only a negligible or at least a minor element in the recent violence then what to think of the attack yesterday on a pondok pesantren in East Java with several children injured, only because it was ‘suspected’ of teaching a non-specified ‘deviant’ form of Islam? The attackers were filmed riding motorbikes, like cowards throwing stones at the children.
Some here really go great lengths to deny the presence of an elephant in the room. Instead of studying maps you’d better switch on MetroTV – if you understand Indonesian – and look at the headlines among which Ancaman FPI Untuk Presiden or watch this message of Sobri Lubis, Secretary General of the FPI: kill, kill, kill.
If you believe that the little grubby boys deserve to be fodder for sociological research rather than to be swept from the face of the earth, be my guest. Try to convince also the Ahmadiyah, the Christians and the other minorities.
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Frankly I feel that you people, Timdog, Lairedion, ET, agree rather than disagree – but that you concentrate on the minor differences.
To come back to the violence in the first few decades after independence: I once, it must have been around 1980, visited a museum of the Siliwangi Division, in Bandung I think. I don’t know wether it still exists. I had expected to see a lot of material regarding the conflict with the Dutch but, no, there wasn’t much at all. And what there was seemed to concentrate on the smiles and handshakes after the conflict.
The material there mainly dealt with the action against the Darul Islam. There was a direct confrontation there in which the army prevailed. Today’s danger from that side seems to be far more intangible. Also, there is democracy now, such as it is, and politicians are dependent on votes. Sukarno was not troubled by that – neither was his successor.
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Interesting, I am missing something here?? Timdog seems to have just further developed the point that ET raised earlier that the “run amok” gene is not solely found in the Muslim parts of the country and yet there seems to be fair bit of angst here??
Personally, I tend to think that the Islamic slant is just the easy option, the anger is everywhere and I have watched the Christians do their thing. This is pretty much a reaction to no jobs, no hope and no future for the vast majority of Indonesians. Sharia or Communist Revolution or whatever, if you are the little bloke who gets fcked over every single day what have you got to lose? Anything has to better than the status qou. It is too simplistic to think is just some evil Arab plot to take over the country, if it was not Sharia it would be something else.
It is worse now than pre 65 or 98, as not content to rob the people blind. The filthy few now rub the people noses in it. People see on any number of media how the elite few live and marry off their hideous thieving offspring in grotesque displays of avarice and filth whilst children continue to die of hunger in the richest country in SE Asia (the fact that the wealth is stolen to support the elite few does change the fact the country is wallowing in riches). Does anyone really thing that can continue forever, except the deluded ones who live off the tit of the filth?
(and yes AMOK is found elsewhere but the name of the blog sort of suggests the focus).
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@Thierry
Well actually most of the Christians believe that the message of Jesus replaces the rules of the Old Testament, made them obsolete. So no, it does not follow that christians should kill people who work on sunday.
That being said, I don’t care much for the holy books either.