Jilbab hot, and not – Mufidah, Uga & Ani
May 28th, 2009, in News, by Patung
Mufidah Kalla & Uga Wiranto are hot stuff in the battle for Muslim votes, while Mrs Ani is urged to cover up.
Deputy secretary of the Justice Party (Partai Keadilan Sejahtera, PKS), Zulkieflimansyah, says that a portion of the Party’s support base may flock to the pairing of Jusuf Kalla and retired General Wiranto (JK-Win) at the July 8th presidential election, because both men’s wives dress simply and wear the jilbab, or Islamic headscarf. jawapos
To be frank, in their hearts some PKS people find Jusuf Kalla-Wiranto more appealing because of their wives.
Mufidah Jusuf Kalla and Rugaya (Uga) Wiranto, and their husbands.
Separately on the same issue Mahfud Sidik, the PKS parliamentary chairman, recommended that Ani Yudhoyono and Herawati Boediono don the jilbab, in order to increase the appeal of their husbands among Muslim voters, and in particular to solidify Party rank and file support for the pairing.
The appearance of JK and Wiranto’s wife is really good. The PKS can only advise Mrs Ani and Boediono’s wife to wear Muslim clothes.
Jilbabless, Kristiani Yudhoyono and Herawati Boediono.
He said the PKS had not decided whether to make a formal recommendation of this to president Yudhoyono and his running mate. jawapos
Mahfud Sidik
Meanwhile, campaigning in Pekanbaru, Riau, Wiranto himself made use of the fact that his wife covered up modestly:
I’m sorry, but out of all the candidates only my wife and Pak Jusuf Kalla’s wife wear Muslim dress.
This was not a new thing either he said, just for the campaign: vivanews
They’ve worn Islamic dress for a long time.
Some actually jilbab hot.
101 Comments on “Jilbab hot, and not – Mufidah, Uga & Ani”
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compare that to your balinese friends who are checking KTP of their fellow Indonesians who came to their little island and turn them around. Imagine that. Never mind that many balinese shamelessly go find a living on other islands, and nobody said a word about it. May be next time when a balinese policeman ask for my driving license, i will ask for his KTP.
Where have you been sticking your head into? Now just answer this question: how many balinese have blown-up bombs? This KTP-checking wasn’t even there, until that wake up call that made us realize some looney’s are out there, out of hatred induced by the “teaching” they’re getting (supposedly wahabism), want to destroy anything that is not islam (i mean, wahabist islam). It’s called preventive measure.
So yes, call me racist, but to me (saudi) arabian culture — with its wahabism — is the lowest in human civilization. Compare that to Japan, China, South Korea, and India… Nada que ver guey! I don’t want indonesia to get drowned into that mud.
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Odinius says:
Brother Mouzone said:
Are you kidding? The fellas have to wear those daft Tommy-Cooper-style fez’s – far more degrading if you ask me.
Not to mention those little goat beards.
Tuxedo, eyeglasses and red bow-tie, now that’s style!
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Brother Mouzone says:
@ Diego
So yes, call me racist, but to me (saudi) arabian culture — with its wahabism — is the lowest in human civilization. Compare that to Japan, China, South Korea, and India…
Okay…. racist!
I love the idea that Diego has created some kind of world-culture-crapness-ranking system from the top (really spiffing countries with cultures that match Diego’s world view) to the lowest (nasty-mean countries with cultures that Diego doesn’t like).
Wish I could view the world in such black and white terms… life would be much simpler…
@Odinius
Tuxedo, eyeglasses and red bow-tie, now that’s style!
Damn right…. the bow ties itch a bit in Jakarta’s climate though…
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DumadiSatrio says:
andrey: You havent been paying attention to much of what I wrote before have you?
please re-read my comment: I will put the important part in bold
His wife’s actual character is attacked based on the fact that she doesnt adopt a arabian dress code….
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andrey, I still await, breathlessly, your answers to my previous questions posed to you.
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Thanks DumadiSatrio,
You hit the nail on the head with that part in bold.
I’m not good at defining my point when it comes to social issues like that, but I guess what you pointed out is the one that irks me most.
What kind of a shitty society we’ll be living in if this kind of attitude you mentioned is nurtured, and institutionalized. Yikes. Suffocating.
@Bro Mouzone
… about the saudi arabia thing: seriously, don’t you think it’s a bit backward. What have they achieved? Again, compare that to what the japanese, chinese, south koreans, and indians have achieved, a great civilizations that last till now…, and they can reap the benefits of it. Well, we can aspire. We have to pick our role model, and saudi arabia (or middle east in general) is a big no-no.
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@diego, I would agree. Why even look for a “role model”.
Truthfully, Indonesia has a RICH, diverse, and lovely cultures and tradtions… that are worth preserving.Yet there are some who seem to have been brainwashed *cough *cough to believe that kebaya and batik are Dutch imports, and burkas and dishdashas are javanese tradition….
So strange….but for a real laugh look at the underlying superficiality
The appearance of JK and Wiranto’s wife is really good. The PKS can only advise Mrs Ani and Boediono’s wife to wear Muslim clothes.
haha, pure pandering showmen…. throw on a little hijabi… thats what the poor ignorant masses have been trained to respond to. Grow a long beard and ta da, right.
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DumadiSatrio said:
Grow a long beard and ta da
You mean grow a scraggly little goat beard, because Mr. PKS Man can’t actually grow a real one.
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Of course, done right the hijab can actually be a little sexy
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_K7JM-b-SOJI/SfGqMfedl-I/AAAAAAAADDk/q11sSVXVNPs/s1600-h/011989806.png
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Lairedion says:
because Mr. PKS Man can’t actually grow a real one.
One reason the Taliban would have a tough job here with their mandatory beard policy as many Indonesians can only dream of growing beards. Even a moustache is too much asked.
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andrey
so by definition, those who use hijab are pious, at least on the particular subject of following the rule of modesty.
You are quite right. Browse to blog -dot- jilbab -dot- eu. Loads of pious modest women there, including some of our own…
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Berlian Biru says:
Of course, done right the hijab can actually be a little sexy
“Little sexy”? I find them extremely sexy but I’m a bit of a depraved pervo so don’t listen to me.
I once had a very nice relationship (long time ago) with a girl who wore the scarf, she was very hot and was at it like Billy-Oh at every opportunity. I eventually asked her why she behaved in that way but still wore the scarf, it turns out she had very frizzy hair, didn’t like it and wearing the scarf was a simple way of avoiding having to straighten it out every day.
So don’t always believe that the jilbabber is doing so out of piety and modesty, this is Indonesia after all.
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100% of Berlian Birus agree
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Lair,
Are you sure they’re not some western / asian (non-arab / non-wahabist) / jewish girls posing as arabs / wahabist?
Even if they’re arabs / wahabists, how can we be sure they’re not some weak-minded, who deviated from the teaching of wahabism, and being controlled / manipulated by some western / jewish organizations who want to corrupt / defame wahabism?
subhanawatala!
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maman says:
i’m a muslim and i really like a religious muslimah who wears jilbab and pray 5 times a day. my mother is like that and i really respected her. but we cannot ignore the fact that many muslimah who wear jilbab is not really pure at heart. i don’t know the iman of those president candidate wives but i don’t want to judge them based on whether they wear jibab or not. but unfortunetly, many indonesians does not realize that.
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Abu Ismail says:
Well the concern of Zulkieflimansyah is valid. A portion of the Party’s support base may flock to JK-Wiranto due to the jilbab issue.
In fact I would add, also a portion other so called Islamic parites, such as PPP, PKB, PBR. From the three presidential/vp candidates, JK-Wiranto is widely considered as the islamic representaives.
There might not be any Islamic party candidate at this time around, but the islamic factor is still an important criterium for a large portion of Indonesian voters.
Let’s see if eventually the spouses of SBY and Boediono will start to use jilbab, or at least a simple Benazir Bhuto-style headscarf. My bet, yes, they will eventually do it, for the sake of getting muslim votes.
Salams.
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You’re right that some Islamic-oriented voters will back JK-Wiranto, but it’s hard to see how that will dent SBY’s popularity. For one thing, this election really underscored that the self-consciously Islamic vote is in decline. It seems as if greater numbers of Indonesians, both of the jilbab’d and non-jilbab’d sets, think the country is best served by elected officials who put things other than religion at the top of the political agenda.
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Observato says:
With the “hijab argument” the tone is deeper than just fashion
His wife’s actual character is attacked based on the fact that she doesnt adopt a arabian dress code….Not attacked in the sense that jilbab is an arabian custom, thats not ordinary event here, but the way it is an islamic thing or symbol, according to the ‘attacker’s’ view. You may argue jilbab is merely an arabian custom, but that is your version of interpretation a JIL activist will agree much. A thing may cause many different interpretations.
And many only associate jilbab with Islam. In fact, Indonesia jilbab is different than its original shapes, and mostly spelled ‘jilbab’ not hijab. You may find narrower fashionable batik jilbab here. The symbol has been localized. Even Wiranto said about ‘spiritual’ hijab that is more essential to physical hijab. That was an ‘advanced’ thing … when people are talking the essence not the symbol.
I still see the ‘attack’ is about who are being more close to Islam. It was a traditional battle since Piagam Jakarta.
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Ross says:
Lairedion, I of course don’t go along with bans on necessary medical treatment, which I thought was a Jehovah’s Witness thing anyway, hardly Proddy stuff. And no, I don’t go along with strict Sabbatarianism, but it’s not rammed down folks’ throats, like the jilbab or the even more neanderthal chadur.
If I took a lady to the ‘Utter Hebrides,’ she could wear what she wanted (perhaps not including Andy’s interesting outfit mentioned above) … though the locals might not approve, they’d not have her arrested or flogged or otherwise persecuted.
When I was a wee lad, playing cards on Sunday, not gambling but just playing, was frowned on. Nowadays it isn’t. Good, because it is a harmless pastime.
The West may indeed be going over the top in its rush to be ‘modern’ – but here there seems a rush to go backwards, and those who object get threats of fire-bombs in bookstores etc.
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Murni says:
In Malaysia, the Malays have Malaysianified Islamic fashion–bright colors yet modest. Yet, most Indonesian Islamic fashion seems either arabized or westernized. Nothing is wrong with a man in a sarong and a woman in kebaya and sarong. Faith and piety are about what is inside. You can be a woman who dresses modestly yet sleeps around, just like you can be a devout woman in a short skirt. Clothes are just the window dressing. I like what Hayrunisa Gul said on the subject (Abdullah Gul’s wife)–basically, the scarf covers her head, not her brain. ie–focus on women’s minds, not their clothing.
Would Indonesians really disregard all the sins Wiranto committed, the blood on his hands, just because his wife wears the headscarf? I doubt it.
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Oigal says:
When I was a wee lad, playing cards on Sunday, not gambling but just playing, was frowned on. Nowadays it isn’t. Good, because it is a harmless pastime.
Laugh..no it’s coz clergy finally woke up there was money to be made, along with bingo and other vices.. Never stand between a cleric and buck.. you will get hurt.
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Observato, your reasoning is good.
First let me admit to being slightly defensive.
I would also completely agree with this statement “The symbol has been localized.”That being said, The one thing I found annyoing is that one should not cast doubt on the deen or character of another based on superficial basis. To do so is in itself haram, as only god can judge such things.
When people begin down this road of argument they become like the wahhabis, calling everyone infidels and so forth. -
@ Diego
about the saudi arabia thing: seriously, don’t you think it’s a bit backward. What have they achieved?
Apart from the invention of modern medicine and spreading the world’s first effective numeral system you mean? Nothing at all – they’re a bunch of Neanderthals…
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andrey says:
ross, about racing backward..
I can assure you that it is not the case.
Many brothers and sisters are learning nuclear physics, designing hybrid cars, advanced robots, and who knows what else, in world famous universities and research institutes, places which you wouldn’t touch the entry gates even in your dream, as we speak.And they’re doing it while using jilbab and growing beards.
As a supposedly much more “modern” person, what are you doing, by the way?
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Andrey, I’m employing the tools of technology -internet -to enjoy myself in fora such as these!
Oigal, it was the priests who got the bingo going, not the pastors, at least not where I’m familiar with.
No harm in bingo, better than burning Ahmadiyyah mosques, as I believe may have happened last night in Ciputat. -
ET says:
DumadiSatrio said
The custom itself that you refer to is pre islamic to begin with, as arabic women in mekka used to have their face covered, but not their breasts.
Also the young and pretty ones or the old hags only?
Well, it’s quite understandable why this cover-up became such an issue. Moh being kind of a jealous philanderer was constantly worried about the loyalty of his hareem especially after Aisha’ s alleged affair with a younger desert fox. He may even have projected his own weakness for the naked female flesh upon his followers after being overcome by lust when he saw his daughter-in-law Zaynab, the wife of his adopted son Zayd, clad by sunlight only:
Tabari VIII:4 “One day Muhammad went out looking for Zayd. Now there was a covering of haircloth over the doorway, but the wind had lifted the covering so that the doorway was uncovered. Zaynab was in her chamber, undressed, and admiration for her entered the heart of the Prophet. After that Allah made her unattractive to Zayd.'”
After that Zayd was conveniently sent off on a terrorist raid so that nabi Moh might excitedly admire his daughter-in-law and soon-to-be-7th-wife.
Admittedly Mohammed knew himself and man’s nature in general when blinded by the light of glowing skin. Hence he made jealousy and hypocrisy a religious virtue. -
Observato said
Well dumadi since either SBY, JK or Wiranto spend most the time using western style clothes instead of sarung, blangkon, keris etc., I guess according to your view they are all victims of current or past bule imperialism.
They would be victims of bule imperialism if they used Western cloths as a sign of kowtowing to white power. But the facts is they don’t because I always see them wearing batik shirts and sometimes peci. What could be more Indonesian?
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ananda says:
Somewhere in the world, there are so many prostitutes in jilbab. And in Indonesia, there are also so many murderers (including those who commit and facilitate abortions), corrupting people, liars, drug dealers, and any kind of crime you may never be able to imagine, and they all wear jilbabs. So what is the point of jilbab? It is just for covering the head to hide the dandruff !!!
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Astrajingga says:
It is just for covering the head to hide the dandruff !!!
Hiding it, specially after it makes a lot of dandruffs. It’s may be suitable for arid hot climate like in middle east, but IMHO not very suitable for humid tropic climate like Indonesia.
But don’t worry, there’s a shampoo, specially designed for jilbabers.
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I may be out of my depth here as my name sake suggests, but it’s just occurred to me that “God” the supreme being of the entire universe, the all knowing and all powerful, is probably concerned with more important issues than the habitual attire worn by some humans on planet Earth.
I hope I haven’t offended anyone with my comments as I personally couldn’t careless what a person wears on their head, or their feet for that matter…I suspect neither does God.