News on a recent mini epidemic of raids by the Islamic Defenders Front, FPI, Front Pembela Islam.
On the 20th of May in the town of Pamekasan, in Madura, East Java, one of the Front’s few strong areas in that province, members conducted raids on a number of night spots and some roadside stalls which were thought to be selling alcohol. One hotel was also targeted and the owner of the establishment was instructed not to allow the sale of liquor and drugs on his premises.
Speeches followed in which an unnamed FPI man implored the residents of Pamekasan to help the Front stamp out sinful activities in the city. The police response to the events is unknown.
Also on the 20th, in Bandung, West Java, dozens of Front loyalists went to the Jalan Cikutra area in three pick-ups and dozens of motorbikes. They attacked one store that sold alcohol and confiscated about 200 bottles. After this success they moved towards downtown Bandung and visited a number of night spots in further search of the demon drink. They were accompanied by public order officials and police but no action was taken as the police were reported to have been overwhelmed by the situation.
However later the police attempted to put a stop to the actions by blocking off roads likely to be used by the convoy of FPI vehicles. Antara reports that police asked owners of targeted night spots to close their doors while the ‘sweeping’ was going on in order to avoid trouble.
While in the Kresek area of Bekasi, West Java, dozens of roadside stalls, or warungs, were damaged during an FPI raid on 21st May. 60 Front men took part in the attack. Afterwards police detained 21 of them.
Their leader is charged with violating law 160 (provoking others to damage property) and 170 (damaging property). His men are charged under law 170.
(Pimpinannya kami jerat pasal 160 KUHP dan 170 KUHP, memprovokator dan melakukan perusakan, sedangkan anak buahnya dijerat pasal 170.)
said Chairul Anwar of the police on the 22nd.
In this action the FPI men were reported to have just returned from an anti-pornography rally and decided to inspect a number of roadside stalls on Jalan Masjid At-Taqwa which were thought to sell music as well as alcohol. Stallholders resisted the “inspections” and some violence broke out. Three policeman who happened to be in the area at the time attempted to prevent the FPI’s attack on the stalls but to no avail and about 11 stalls were damaged. A number of stallholders also suffered injuries.
One unit of the police Mobile Brigade remains stationed in the area and Bekasi police chief Chairul Anwar warned:
If there are anarchic actions the police will not remain silent and will punish those responsible.
(Jika sampai ada yang melakukan tindakan anarkis, maka polisi tidak tinggal diam dan akan memberikan sanksi hukum yang tegas.)
Education and dialogue only works on those civlised enough to be swayed by it and participate mtaurely in it.
yeah, you’re probably right Purba, education is only for the civilised, forget the rest…. waste of time….. on that note… maybe I should take my four year old out of school, since she isn’t participating maturely….
Janama- as soon as the Mother Goose West stops attempting to mollycoddle us, preaching “rights for rioters”, “touch a terrorist” and “hug a hoodlum” – we shall the communicate what the wong dhangling of FPI what they best understand- aksi kasaran.
again, spot on Purba, like the US…. such a soft approach to terroisim…. I’m sure they’re all hugging hoodlums in Guantanamo as we speak!
Janma once again your Australian comprehension is emotive and facile.
US Guantanamo problem is detention of combatant detainee not as prisoner of war but tricky classification of such combatant as spy thus they lose any and all right under conventions of war.
Second- this action itself contravenes US Law as we now see, Supreme Court rushing to rectify Law back to previous state as the Bush ship sinking fast
How is Darot treated in the UK, etc?
What about murderer of 40+ people in Tasmania?
The legal status of enemy of State is very different in Indonesia- we do not have to arbitrarily change Law to suit our ends.
FPI do not have anywhere near as much supporter as they claim.
Even crazy like Amien Rais dislike them as they damage possibility of Islamic party having realistic chance of election success.
This is a myth they like to promote to avoid an open conflict the will surely loose.
You will see their supporter jump like rat off sinking ship as soon as pressure is exerted.
Darul Islamiyah will be crushed whatever clothing it wear, whatever the cost, whatever the casualty.
As you mentioned- enemy of Pancasila is an enemy of State, society and civlisation.
The framework for constructive democratic debate exist for Islmiac leaning party.
FPI has elected to not be civilized or lawful entity or partiocpate in legal existing framework available for public debate and poltical participation.
FPI is like a cancer in our foot- it infects the healthy neighbour. Yes, we still can walk- but limp along badly. Soon we realise we must cut off the whole leg to save the body.
Do we hesitate to cut it off to save the rest?
No.
We can live our life just as well with one good foot and no cancer.
Same for FPI. We must amputate or cauterise them from society.
What about murderer of 40+ people in Tasmania
I know I shouldn’t but this just has to be good..Do expand PN..preferably without the drugs
Very nice analogy MR.Purba,
We can live our life just as well with one good foot and no cancer.
Same for FPI. We must amputate or cauterise them from society.
I like the way you said it, however, what do you suggest the steps to make this happen?
what kind of approach will you take, and if possible, how long this will take?
I will begin to see the problem from the cost point of view, how much money do you need the Department of Defense will need to allocate to address this matter?
The legal status of enemy of State is very different in Indonesia- we do not have to arbitrarily change Law to suit our ends.
you just get funnier and funnier PN!
With regards FPI, we need to still sit and wait.
The day will come when they do something very stupid, probably killing innocents and that will be the time to act.
In such instance, we can fully act within the scope of Civil Law to appease Western agitator such as Denmark, Holland etc.
We have numerous laws such as incitement to riot, sedition, treason, conspiracy to commit crimes, etc- it is merely amatter of waiting until FPI commit the most serious.
Furthermore the State can seize and appropriate as it sees fit any and all assets.
BNI can monitor FPI collating evidence for civil trials.
We can continue taking FPI to court until we utterly bankrupt them- this seems to be common Western practice too when dealing with extremists.
It would be no more expensive the a KPK case. Hopefully FPI would not resort to violence- if they do- Brimob can easily mop up without Army intervention.
Janma once again your Australian comprehension is emotive and facile.
funny, last week I was a rice hoarding chinese….. now I am a facile australian.
Just so you know, I don’t have to be Australian to be facile and emotive, and I don’t have to be chinese to hoard rice. You might want to try and shore up your arguments with something that has a bit more substance than racist slurs.
Janma…
You know that PN just cannot help it? It has always been the same. When one is short on substantive argument, you insult. This just happens to be the PN way…
PN…
Perhaps the government could deal with the FPI in a manner similar to the way they have dealt with Ahmadiyya. However, this assumes that the government of Indonesia has the testicular fortitude to go after FPI in the lead up to the 2009 elections. Being the proud Indonesian you are, you are likely to know more about the testicular fortitude of your government than I. (I guess if Megawati was still President then this would have to be ovarian fortitude)…
Enjoy your week!
@Purba Negoro,
In such instance, we can fully act within the scope of Civil Law to appease Western agitator such as Denmark, Holland etc.
Is there any obstacle now, not to operate within the scope of Civil Law? I think there might be plenty of Indonesians who want Civil Law to be applied as well. Indonesian Civil Law has been made for Indonesians and not for appeasing Denmark, Holland, or any other foreign country.
We have numerous laws such as incitement to riot, sedition, treason, conspiracy to commit crimes, etc- it is merely amatter of waiting until FPI commit the most serious.
Didn’t the FPI cause enough anger and damage yet? As you point out yourself there are plenty of laws, so I fail to see the necessity to wait any longer.
Dear Rob and Robert,
I hope I do not have to repeat this again.
Members of FPI are Arab-wannabes and islamised Pris gone wrong. They are supported and egged on by Arabs and your own kind – new Bule converts (look to your own backyard, your kind are causing trouble here). They represent the True form of Middle Eastern Islam which our forefathers dilluted with Javanese mystics few hundreds ago. No sane Indonesian supported them, however, they are needed to keep Indonesia morally uncorrupted from the Bules-majority and other undesirables-minority. Without them, Indonesia would be another Thailand and the Phillipines.
Personally, I think they are traitors. Other than that, like all patriotic Indonesians, I have direct ‘dial-an-FPI’ number to several active members in case I see any Bule stepping out of line.
Sorry. We don’t like them, but they are needed.
Regards,
Aluang
Well- unfortunately- our hands are tied.
Given the experience of Western kneeling to Acehnese Islamic terrorist GAM and their stabbing in our back- you can see why for the moment we proceed with caution.
As soon as they kill one person- tragic as this may be- we now have total justification for eradication with extreme prejudice and extreme force exerted in strategic non prejudicial manner.
The FPI cockroach will scurry back under their masters’ Malaysian rocks and wish they had never set foot on Indonesian soil.
Notice how no crazy Muslim under Suharto? Guess why. Not bang, bang- simpler= chop, chop.
Maybe we know how best to deal with our own internal security without Western bed-wetter soiling pants over subjective application of ‘human rights’ it hypocritically does not ever apply itself to?
Or perhaps 600,000 dead Iraqi would agree with you?
Previously you stated your grandmother was a Chinese store owner who fled as the nasty natives went amok.
That was my mother in law, and she didn’t flee, she stayed put…. and plenty of local balinese (pemecutan) for example, hoarded rice and collaborated with the japanese. So I guess it’s not a racial perogative. And just so you no, plenty of those ‘nasty natives’ benefitted from their hoarded rice.
@ Aluang Anak Bayang,
They are supported and egged on by Arabs and your own kind – new Bule converts (look to your own backyard, your kind are causing trouble here).
Don’t forget the police who is turning a blind eye on the FPI.
No sane Indonesian supported them, however, they are needed to keep Indonesia morally uncorrupted from the Bules-majority and other undesirables-minority.
It is sad to see that the Indonesians are so morally corrupt, that they need FPI-thugs to keep them on the right track. But if you say the FPI is necessary, so be it then. So obey your FPI-masters then, if they are the ones who protect you from being infected by immoral Bules’ ideas.
Janma:
I very much doubt your claims about Balinese.
Many Javanese collaborated with the Japanese- it is not a matter of shame- but pride. My grandfather, my father and his brothers were all PETA product.
The Japanese assisted the Nationalist greatly. The trained and educated us- why would we not collaborate with our Liberator?
Only the Chinese and Dutch feared an Independent Indonesia.
PS- In light of your corrections- I am very sorry you married so far beneath yourself and doomed to a life of deficient marital intimacy.
@Purba Negoro,
Well- unfortunately- our hands are tied.
Given the experience of Western kneeling to Acehnese Islamic terrorist GAM and their stabbing in our back- you can see why for the moment we proceed with caution.
PN, I don’t recall any western governments protest when FPI leader Rizieq Shihab got arrested. It doesn’t seem the hands of the Indonesian police are that tied after all. If they can arrest a leader why not arrest the pawns too?
Notice how no crazy Muslim under Suharto? Guess why. Not bang, bang- simpler= chop, chop.
Agree on that one, Suharto would never have accepted this FPI crap. He made it very clear who ruled Indonesia. Unlike SBY, Suharto was a very decisive man.
Probably SBY has nothing to gain by the FPI getting arrested. As long as the FPI is conducting raids, SBY stays out of the spotlights.
Rob
precisely. Very good- you are beginning to understand
“wayang Indonesia”.
Unfortunately SBY is no dhalang- he is merely the assistants’ understudy passing the puppets to the apprentice, then to the master.
We must ask:
Why are they allowed to continue to exist?
What purpose does their existence serve?
Whose interests do they truly serve?
What is their function within socio-political system?
To whose advantage is their existence?
What is the next move?
If we examine beyond the cursory and superficial- we start to see real political motives.
You may be surprised to find where the money trail ends- it may not even be Saudi…
@ Robert
It is sad to see that the Indonesians are so morally corrupt, that they need FPI-thugs to keep them on the right track. But if you say the FPI is necessary, so be it then. So obey your FPI-masters then, if they are the ones who protect you from being infected by immoral Bules’ ideas.
Please don’t misquote me. Indonesian are poor, but morally conscious people. Less than a decade ago, an Indonesian parents would not mind letting their kids go out with their Bule neighbours. In our society, it is normal for an adult or older man holding a child’s hand, usually their older sibling or neighbour helping out. The same cannot be said if a Bule English teacher hold your child’s hand. They have sinister intent.
Mr. AAB, your opinion is unacceptable.
he same cannot be said if a Bule English teacher hold your child’s hand. They have sinister intent.
This kind of conservative view is full of prejudice.
Can’t you say the same thing about a man with peci and saroong teacher holding your child’s hand?!
Don’t be so reckless labeling the whites/bule. Not all of them have sinister intent. Most of them love Indonesia more than you and your ancestor does.
@ Mulyana Ilham
This is harsh reality, nonetheless it is what most Indonesian families are wary of. I am NOT labelling all Bules. I have many Bule friends whom I would consider as fellow Indonesians. They loved the country, married the locals and lived like us. We have our pitfall too, but not in the pedo department. Single moms and hookers are stigmatised in our society and unable to get a decent spouse; here it is the Bules who come in to help solve the problem. I do admire them. It is the English teacher types that are causing problem here.
PS- In light of your corrections- I am very sorry you married so far beneath yourself and doomed to a life of deficient marital intimacy.
well PN, since I’m only the product of convicts I don’t know if I really married ‘beneath’ myself….. but you might have a point about intimacy! Hee hee…. 😉
Plus, I do know what I’m talking about with the Balinese…. plenty of the royal families here collaborated with the Dutch and the Japanese…. and I very much doubt that the japanese only did ‘good’ in Indonesia…. you might want to check the other side of that story!
@ janma
You are correct the Japanese did not actually come to help us, BUT an enemy’s enemy is your friend. That is the reason why we sided with them.
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Interesting comment Mr. Purba, However, like Andy said;
it will be very risky to do some high-scale military operation since they are big in number. I still prefer to use the law, banning the organization altogether, like we did with PKI (Indonesian Communist Party). After the law is being enforced, then the military have a legal basis to do any operations that is necessary to put down this organization.
Thailand and Indonesia might be a little bit different, however, as for the spirit of it, i see a lot of similarity. nonetheless, putting down the domestic disturbance will enhance the road to progress. The separation of religion and the state have long been debated.. and it is not easy since the first point of Pancasila is based on the religion view. To separate the state and the religion will be stripping off the first point of Pancasila.. and it is not likely to happen, since Pancasila is the base of all Indonesian law.