Syech Puji, Pujiono Cahyo & Underage Lust
Oct 24th, 2008, in News, by Patung
The controversy over a politician-cleric’s marriage to an underage girl in Semarang.
43 year old Pujiono Cahyo Widayanto/Widianto, aka Syech/Syekh Puji, the head of an Islamic boarding school (Ponpes Miftahul Jannah) in Bedono, Jambu, Semarang, Central Java, in August 2008 informally married (nikah siri) Lutfiana Ulfa, 11 years and 10 months old, who had just begun studies at a local junior high school, but has now taken up wifely duties at home.
Ulfa & Pujiono Cahyo Widianto
Sheikh Puji is a very wealthy man, being the owner of PT Sinar Lendoh Terang (Silenter), a handicrafts exporter, and appeared in the news in August for distributing 1.3 billion rupiah (about $130,000) in zakat or charity to the poor. His first wife is 26 years old. In 2005 he was a candidate for the Partai Amanat Nasional (PAN) in a regency election but withdrew from the race at the last moment, and has long been involved in local politics. suaramerdeka
It’s a deal
He also intends to marry two other girls, aged 9 and 7. Of these latter two, Syech Puji says that neither has begun menstruating, so he will refrain from interfering with them, while Ulfa has already entered puberty.
Syech Puji believes his actions have a legitimate basis in Islam, considering that the prophet Muhammad married the 7 year old Aisha.
I’m not just doing what I like, it’s based in religion. It’s in accordance with the prophet’s teaching. You can marry a 7 year old if you like but you can’t have relations with her until she starts menstruating.
Clerics’ Council/Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI) leader Umar Shihab condemned the marriage to Ulfa:
Men should marry adults, there are a lot of other prospective brides around. Why has he married a 12 year old? The poor girl.
His actions have been mostly condemned in other quarters, with some saying that he has broken the Marriage Law, and is liable to criminal prosecution. lampungpost detik
One supporting voice is that of politician Hilman Rosyad Syihab from the Islamist Partai Keadilan Sejahtera (PKS), who says that marrying young girls is allowed within Islam provided the marriages are not consummated until the girl has begun menstruating. dutamasyarakat
On November 24th 2010 Syech Puji was sentenced to 4 years jail, and a 60 million rupiah fine, for marrying an underage girl. Both his wives, Lutviana Ulfa and first wife Ummi Hani, wept at the news. antara
291 Comments on “Syech Puji, Pujiono Cahyo & Underage Lust”
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Andy says:
See what a hypocrite is our AAB. He tells all muslims to follow the example of the prophet Muhammed and marry child brides yet was most vocal in condemning bules (with a heavy emphasis on Aussies and Anglo Celts) when a pedophile is caught in his country. Yes we get it. When a pious muslim with a flowing gown and long beard takes a pre pubescent bride he is being a good muslim yet when it is a bule they are criminal trash which AAB likes to think we all are. No wonder people can’t take him or his country seriously with such blatant double standards.
For the record, I think Alf has posted the most intelligent comments on this thread. Just plain fact without fear or favour. Here in 21st century Australia pedophilia is a crime for all concerned. I’m waiting for the day a muslim who chose to migrate here under our laws tries to play the race card when we tell them they are not allowed to marry a child or take several wives. Let these disgusting animals wallow in their 7th century hell holes. This is a reason why all muslim immigration to the west should be stopped immediately. -
diego says:
Are you a just stupid or a stuck-up person? AAB is like Achmad Sudarsono.
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Aluang Anak Bayang says:
@ Andy
See what a hypocrite is our AAB. He tells all muslims to follow the example of the prophet Muhammed and marry child brides yet was most vocal in condemning bules (with a heavy emphasis on Aussies and Anglo Celts) when a pedophile is caught in his country. Yes we get it. When a pious muslim with a flowing gown and long beard takes a pre pubescent bride he is being a good muslim yet when it is a bule they are criminal trash which AAB likes to think we all are. No wonder people can’t take him or his country seriously with such blatant double standards.
You are seriously an ignoramus. When Bule shagged an underage kid, of course he is committing a serious crime and should be castrated. To do it the halal way, this Bule must first convert to Islam. Barry Prima, Dawud Farquhar, John Spiteri and all your Anglo-Celtic cousins are converting en masse to Islam. Brian Leaver, your next door neighbour see truth in Islam. These people want a taste of pre-teen kids. Andy, when are you converting?
For the record, I think Alf has posted the most intelligent comments on this thread. Just plain fact without fear or favour. Here in 21st century Australia pedophilia is a crime for all concerned. I’m waiting for the day a muslim who chose to migrate here under our laws tries to play the race card when we tell them they are not allowed to marry a child or take several wives.
Your law is man made and probably less than 200 years old. Allah’s shariah law was here 50,000 before the Big Bang.
Let these disgusting animals wallow in their 7th century hell holes. This is a reason why all muslim immigration to the west should be stopped immediately.
Another excuse to play the race card. Andy, why not just be plain honest and admit you are a racist?
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I mean 50,000 years before the Big Bang.
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@ diego
Can you elaborate more?
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AAB-Another excuse to play the race card. Andy, why not just be plain honest and admit you are a racist?
Maybe after you do the same, fair? I mean what you have said about us is far worse than anything i’ve said. At least I haven’t resorted to petty name calling. I don’t think muslims should be allowed to migrate to my country, I will admit that, it is exactly the same as current Indonesian migration law not allowing bules but formerly allowing arabs to migrate to Indonesia. Reason is pretty much the same as our quarantine laws which were introduced to not upset our local flora and fauna. People are the same.
Allah’s shariah law was here 50,000 before the Big Bang.
To the sane world, this is make believe. So I will assume it is islamic law, made up during the 7th century to appease the likes of you and your sick mates.
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@ Andy
At least I haven’t resorted to petty name calling. I don’t think muslims should be allowed to migrate to my country, …
Petty name calling? example?
Andy, Moslem believe in Allah subhana wata’ala. He who created the universe, all creatures and humanoids like you. For a moslem, there is no such thing as ‘your’ or ‘my’ country. It is petty humans that created boundaries.
… I will admit that, it is exactly the same as current Indonesian migration law not allowing bules but formerly allowing arabs to migrate to Indonesia.
Formerly, we not only allowed the Arabs. Javanese welcomed everyone (Black, White and Yellow) regardless of race, creed or religion.
Reason is pretty much the same as our quarantine laws which were introduced to not upset our local flora and fauna. People are the same.
The balance was already upset the moment you people (of the Anglo-Celtic variety) washed ashore terra incognita some 200 years ago. Diseases and pests such as feral rabbits, Carps, camels, cane toads to name a few. Javanese had been in contact with the Blackies few hundred years before your arrival; and NO, we did not upset the local flora and fauna. We did not shoot them, chain them or rape their womenfolk when we were at the height of our golden age – The Mojopahit Empire.
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Adrian Vickers says:
It would be interesting to see how many of those who support this sleazebag also supported the Antipornography Bill. Perhaps one of the contributors could give us a list of all the voters for the Bill, and we could then play ‘spot the munafik’?
I’ve heard stories of how when Indonesian politicians go overseas, including from ‘religious’ parties, that Embassy staff have to procure prostitutes for them. Perhaps a list of these names for cross-listing would also be useful.
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Achmad Sudarsono says:
Pak Adrian,
Very nice point. Haven’t heard about the hookers, but have heard about other jollies. Are you serious about the prostitutes ? I think it might be time to let the media dogs off the leash and go for it. Start a really big sh*tfight.
If those f*ckers are going to pass stuff like the porn law, then fine, hold them to their own standards. I have a list of HP numbers that would set the wheels in motion.
Good to have you back, even though you never responded to my request to be my Special Internet Friend. ; p
x o.
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Achmad, I am proud of your transformation recently. Pleased to have you on board my son. And Purba has been a civil friend of late too. IM is changing for the better. The only one who remains an arrogant, racist twerp seems to be one Aluang Anak Bayang. Time to get with the program mate..
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AAB, you still don’t want to admit you are racist? You are looking more stupid by the day. Fess up son and we will all forgive you. I can go back to several posts to prove your childish bigotry and petty name calling. Where do you want me to start?
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Andy,
Ironically, you can thank PN & AAB. It just got too much. What started as a funny, silly game just turned boring, the same way a Siberian labour camp is boring.
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Lairedion says:
Yeah, right.
Of course, Achmad, blame PN and AAB while we continue acting stupid and ignorant like nothing has happened, for instance in the Horror Queen Suzanna thread?
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Hi Pak Lairedion,
Confused as to what you mean ??
How did I act stupid and ignorant in the Suzanna thread ? I love and worship the woman !
x o
Achmad.
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Janma says:
Awwww… Andy’s all proud of Achmad…. I bet Achmads little face is glowing.
I think Pak Lairedion got a bit too much fairy dust….???? or maybe he just got a different version of the O Suzanna thread?
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or maybe he just got a different version of the O Suzanna thread?
This is the version I read:
Achmad Sudarsono Says:
October 21st, 2008 at 8:47 amThanks Susy,
Can you give some more details ? What’s DDOS ?
Why would they want to hack Kaskus ?
Tom
Achmad Sudarsono Says:
October 21st, 2008 at 8:51 amI mean Achmad. 🙂
Patung Says:
October 21st, 2008 at 8:54 amYes…, DDOS – Distributed Denial of Service (attack), people trying to bring the website down…didn’t know Suzanna had a grudge against Kaskus though….
Rob Says:
October 21st, 2008 at 8:58 amTom (AKA Achmad)…
So, should we call you Tom or Achmad from now on?
Achmad Sudarsono Says:
October 21st, 2008 at 9:01 amRob,
It’s Achmad. My maternal grandad was called Sutomo, so sometimes that’s what they call me.
But please be nice this week, because although I know Suzanna is amongst the spirits she loved so much, I’m going to miss her.
Rob Says:
October 21st, 2008 at 9:16 amAchmad…
I was not being mean, merely asking the question. Now, that it is clarified. Life can return to normal 😀
Achmad Sudarsono Says:
October 21st, 2008 at 12:04 pmMany thanks, Rob. Normal is… Seksi
Why am I not convinced?
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yeah… you’re right, there could be something there…. I really don’t get it at all….. a bit clueless actually…
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Ally says:
Well… well… try to read the comments but still don’t get the idea why people don’t agree with this marriage of the syeik with a girl of 12 yo.
Pedophile? why is it wrong to have sex between a 50 yo and a 12 yo?
under age abused? what is under age? and why abuse?
next is… what is a marriage????????????????????
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hi laired.
Still confused…
But maybe I’m just slow. Janma is the smart one…
x o .
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@ Achmad
Aww, breaking rank is Oz’s tradition and un-Javanese. Anyway, your insightful knowledge of Indonesia culture especially Javanese is unmatched. Not even Adrian Vickers come a close second.
My beef with Oz and dislike of their arrogant attitude goes as far back to my first trip downunder in the early-80s despite what Oinkgal would like you to believe otherwise. In brief, my parents had joint investment in an abatoir in WA. So the children were invited by the directors to visit downunder for a kangaroo hunting trip. Me and 2 other friends travelled to Perth, WA. On arrival at the airport immigration checkpoint, one friend had to go through the undignified process of interrogation and strip searched for not having a bank account. He was later threatened to be sent home unless he cut short his holiday visa to 1 week. This happened years before threat of global terrorism. Only dumb ockers would think a 15 year old boy would want to remain as illegal alien in Oz? The other friend was a crown prince and I had diplomatic passes so were treated as VIPs. This poor friend is now an Inspector General of Police in his country. I doubt he think highly of Ostraya.
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@ Ally
State your gender and religion before you comment.
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jawa asli says:
@AAB
I like to know your view about this case, a 13 yo who were stoned to death by moslem millitant because she was gang raped.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/11/01/amnesty.rape.somalia.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryviewPlease enlighten us.
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AAB,
why should I? Is it important to know?
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AAB-Petty name calling? example?
AAB-dumb ockers ,My beef with Oz
Still don’t want to admit here you are racist? Just say yes or no.
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Mustafa Ahmed says:
What is the problem with this, my Muslim brothers? He is only following the example of the prophet. We know too well that the prophet married Aisha at a similar age. Your cries that this marriage are disgusting show your ignorance of our Islamic tradition. Remember the prophet is our guide, not the morals of the West.
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ET says:
I agree with Mustafa
Wy is everybody boohooing this poor islamic cleric? All he did was following the foorsteps of horny Mohammad, his beloved prophet.Achmad Sudarsono
Very nice point. Haven’t heard about the hookers, but have heard about other jollies. Are you serious about the prostitutes ? I think it might be time to let the media dogs off the leash and go for it. Start a really big sh*tfight.
Ask rima fauzi about it. She seems to know more about it from her friends at the Indonesian Embassy in Brussels.
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Adrian Vickers
It would be interesting to see how many of those who support this sleazebag also supported the Antipornography Bill.
The Antipornography Bill has nothing to do with it. The Antipornography Bill is the price the Balinese will have to pay for the execution of vermin Amrozi cs.
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peace says:
@ally
Well… well… try to read the comments but still don’t get the idea why people don’t agree with this marriage of the syeik with a girl of 12 yo.
Because you will not agree if later when you have a 12 years old daughter married by 50 years old man with many wife , will you?
Pedophile? why is it wrong to have sex between a 50 yo and a 12 yo?
The same answer as above, try to think logically.
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Achmad,
Everyone is entitled to change his/her opinion.
However that fictional Javanese alter ego of yours is partly responsible for the anti-bule, anti-Oz atmosphere here. Personally I couldn’t care less.
Considering this and your criticism of PN and AAB for screwing up threads I cannot see this change of heart apart from your blunder in the Suzanna thread. I don’t buy your explanation:
What started as a funny, silly game just turned boring, the same way a Siberian labour camp is boring.
I don’t care about your nicknames or real names but admit you’re a bule hiding behind a Javanese character.
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Prophet Mohammad pbuh was sent to all mankind, not to a specific community, nation, race or country. His entire lifestyle is exemplary and stands as a distinguished criterion by which every Muslim’s act is judged.
Now, all authentic hadithes pointed that Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) at age 53 deflowered Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) when she was 9 years of age. Every good moslem should emulate him.
Mets, I am interested in your interpretation.
Following in the footstep of our beloved Prophet is extremist? Mets, when was the last time you attended the masjid lately and are you wearing jilbab? Beware, Allah is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. He seeth, hearth and knowth your mind.
Wrong, there ain’t many practising moslems in Indonesia like Sheikh Puji; otherwise Allah swt would not send in the tsunamis, earthquakes and eruptions.