Some of Abu Bakar Bashir’s village musings have Australians upset.
An Australian student, Nathan Franklin, who is researching Islamic boarding schools in East Java, is said to have filmed a speech/sermon given by Abu Bakar Bashir on October 22nd 2007, in which the cleric rails against “infidel” tourists in Indonesia.
Toothy.
The story is all over the Australian media, and to a lesser extent, British, the Indonesian press don’t seem to have picked up on it as of writing.
Filthy Tourists
The sermon was hosted by the “Persatuan Pemuda Islam Pantura” (Java North Coast Islamic Youth Group) and given, it is said, near Amrozi’s home village (Tenggulun, Solokuro, Lamongan, East Java), and Bashir tells about 300 listeners that
[Non-Muslims are] Worms, snakes, maggots – those are animals that crawl. Take a look at Bali….those infidel tourists. They are naked.
Of tourists in East Java:
God willing, there are none here.
Signs should be put up warning tourists that they were entering a Muslim area – if the tourists failed to dress and behave appropriately
If there were infidels here, just beat them up. Do not tolerate them.
Bashir said that when he visited Australia he had wanted to visit a beach to see the
beauty of the ocean.
But a friend there warned him that
if you enter that area you must be completely naked
Martyrs
He encouraged young people in East Java to struggle for an early grave:
The youth movement here must aspire to a martyrdom death.
The young must be first at the front line – don’t hide at the back. You must be at the front, die as martyrs and all your sins will be forgiven. This is how to achieve forgiveness.
Video
Parts of the video of the speech will be shown on Friday at Charles Darwin University in Darwin, Australia. theaustralian
wow…you ought to make a clip for that song, janma…hehehehe 😀
o yeah….in case you don’t know, the CIA runs al-qaeda :)…read all about it here http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=+SC20050730&articleId=762….
Janma’s video clip is probably more effective than 100 Fitna movies.
Couldn’t agree more with Tom. 🙂
He is just an old man who gets cranky. And what about his followers you’d say?
Well now that’s a problem.
Agusto said
What have gotten into you, have you been watchin too much of those kafeer britney? You are a mourtadeen now?
Not me. After seeing Britney without knickers I became a mujahideen. 70+ of this in Paradise finally pulled me over.
A 15-minute “Fitna” sent most Indonesians on rage… but a Muslim cleric calling other religion followers “animal” all the time is perfectly fine.
Oh I forgot… nevermind the old goat.
Dear Bu Janma,
If you do not mind, I would like to propose your song to become an official theme song of Al-Qaeda. I believe that OBL would happyly to accept your song and the reward for yourself would be very incredible and it is not your dream anymore that OBL could ask you to become one of his concubines and the glory will soon come to you because you may become a legend mother who give pregnancy to the best warrior on the earth
“¦.. and there are only 72 ‘virgins'”¦”¦..
Janma, you as an accomplished midwife should certainly know all the tricks in the book. Hot milk and so…
Oh, this bashir, he is a role model for the true muslim. He is following in the footsteps of pedomoh, what could be holier than that?
Sorry in my opinion Bashir is not so holly because there is still many other religion role model much holier than him as below:
http://heartlandvalues.blogspot.com/2000/06/never-ending-chronicle-of-church.html
Dude, guys, people… don’t be so hard on him. He’s just confused, he likes himself and what he believes in – and he ain’t got no friend, so he’s trying to find some. And when he does that, he didn’t realize that he only makes clown of himself.
And andrew got the point, a 15 min movie (or a cartoon, or anything) that (as they call it) “blasphemous” will set the moslem world on fire, buy NOT when THEY themselves start the fire (like this beard guy) so, in Indonesia probably more than 80% of the people are moslem and most of them don’t even understand the “content” of their holy book, they know how to read it in arab, but not the whole meaning. My dad’s one of them.
I studied the book myself and found difficulties to “follow the story” or even get a grasp of what the book was talking about, no story line / clear guidance whatsoever. So if those people are confused then I hope we can understand them.
And why doesn’t baasyir get sued? I think the people he ‘criticized’ especially christians (probably chinese ethnics also and all the rest of it) in indonesia, chose to (and have always done so) to forgive, let go and let him have whatever he wants to say. Just like giving your left cheek when slap on the right (not too good with scriptures).
I hope for peace in my country.
@ jawa.apostate
I have not heard of Javanese apostating, nor I believe they will be any. If you are really an Indonesian Muslim and a Javanese, why would you apostate when most of the tenets of True Islam do not apply to Javanese. Care to elaborate more?
Is his teeth real??
–> Aluang Anak Bayang
Thank you, and I guess I will.
First of all I take the meaning of “apostate” as someone who left his religion.
I AM a Javanese (really if you meet me you’ll know right away), my mom was a Javanese and so was my dad. But they had different faith; dad’s a Moslem and Mom’s a Pentecost Christian. So as a child I was confused, I liked dad cause he gave me so much (money and all), while mom was the type that kept silent all the time almost seem to let things happen. And I had no religion until I was 17.
Then the problem with me being a Moslem was: I actually READ through the whole book. Most of my friends who were really good and cool-down Moslems never really “study” the book, as to study means to read it in Indonesian and thoroughly read the content. They prefer to read in Arabic (said it was better to do so?), only listens to preachings (which were great sometimes but also can be dangerous when people like Baashir are speaking) but never really knew what the book contains. They only know that to read it in Arabic was soothing; I know, it reading it sounds great. But do they know what they’re saying?
Also looking at how Moslems react to things, I’m sorry to say this but those who claimed to be “true” Moslem would react almost always aggressively and violently while all the other who are not that radical are saying “those violent guys are not real moslems” And sorry to say again, after reading the book; I believe in the first.
I am probably a different breed of Javanese, I don’t just listen to my parents when they tell me to do something, rather I’d ask “why?”. I am a Javanese who broke the tradition of being too-obedience-just-do-it-I-tell-you-it’s-true kind of Javanese and took the risk to open myself to all other faith (and atheism). I’ve studied New Age, read through the whole Bible and Koran and learned The Law of Attraction.
I think religion seem to be the problem of this world, of only everyone just be nice to one another and to the nature (without religious attributes and mumbo jumbo), the world could have been a better place to live.
(please guys don’t get offended, it’s just a personal opinion)
I STILL hope for peace in my country.
Bashir for president!
@ lynn
And my husband wants me to move to Indonesia? All the way from America? Yes, he does, but I won’t.
Very very very wise lady/girl/woman.
lol, Retired Miss Indo 07.. i think it’s real.. (yes, it looks like he had teeth extension)
On the religion of peace bit..i don’t know about Islam but from what i have heard they believe that any peaceful situation without the rule of Allah is not peace at all because Allah is the only giver of real peace through his statutes… This is the same with Christians..there is no peace without the peace of God..which cannot be explained in humanly terms…Religion is to do with spirituality so we cannot argue about Peace from a humanly perspective…
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I have no doubt he is honest and he has a devine ambition.
You are wrong to say he is innocent. He is NOT INNOCENT.
He teaches moslems to be violent and to hate others especially infidels which in this case is tourists and may be non moslems. Not only it’s violating Indonesian law but also law of humanity that it is OK to assault and perhaps kill others.
As a human, I have no choice but to hate violence in any forms.
And YOU ARE AS CONFUSED AS BASHIR to condone and support violence.
I don’t think you know how it feels to have your own father killed, to see your house burned, to have your sister raped.
My suggestion to you and Bashir, why not declare jihad to corruption in the government. The corrupt government is to blame for all the demise we have. I believe that I don’t have to tell you that it is the main cause of poverty and stupidity and vice versa.
Intellectuals like you, should not let yourselves absorbed in this type of fanatism and primordialism. Rather than fanning this blame game why don’t we all try to break this cycle of corruption-poverty and stupidity. You will all be martyrs and go to heaven if you can bring Indonesia to prosperity and out of stupidity.
BTW,
I think you are right. I am so stupid to waste my time writing in this stupid discussion as my fellow chink men would better work their heads off to stack up more money in their pockets.