Doomsday 2012 Movie & MUI
Nov 20th, 2009, in News, by Patung
Obscure branches of the MUI have their 15 minutes of fame in protest at the ‘2012’ doomsday movie.
Several regional branches of the Indonesian Ulema Council/Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI) have protested at the content of the apocalyptic 2012 movie, claiming it was unsuitable to be viewed by Muslims, because only Allah knew when the world would end, not heathens like the Mayans.
First out of the blocks was Mahmud Zubaidi, the leader of the Malang, East Java MUI, who asked the Information minister Tifatul Sembiring to withdraw 2012 from the nation’s movie screens, and said
Only Allah knows when doomsday will come.
Meanwhile in nearby Situbondo MUI members raided several Internet cafes in the area looking to confiscate pirated DVDs of the movie and prevent happy web surfers from downloading it. MUI head in Situbondo, K.H. Abdullah Faqih Gufron, said the movie had upset a lot of people in the town.
In Kalimantan, Prof. H. Asywadie Syukur, Lc, also suggested the government ban the 2012 movie. kompas
I agree with the Malang MUI, East Java, which states that the 2012 movie can mislead the people, especially the Muslims, so the government needs to re-evaluate the permit.
While in Bogor, West Java, primary school students at SD Kemang burned pirated DVD’s and posters of 2012 in protest, among other ‘spontaneous’ and well beat-up by the media pseudo reactions. okezone
62 Comments on “Doomsday 2012 Movie & MUI”
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Ross says:
Well, tonight we aim to see 2012, if we can get three seats together – if not, we shall watch Hantu Jembatan Semanggi, which has the delectable Miss V.
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Cukurungan says:
The Shah was decent, often tried hard, and was often selfish & selfish & self serving. Much like the theocrats running Iran now.
But why Iranian people dumped Him?
Khomeini was batshit crazy.
why the most Iranian love him?
Are you trying to say that the most Iranian are stupid?
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Well, Cuk,
I don’t know which one is more stupid, iranians or persons who can’t put blockquote tags at the right places.
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Oigal says:
Ross, Take a bucket of water in which to sling all the handphones that the morons insist on talking into and texting on for the duration of the movie…Kupungan!
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Yea its a shame to spend that much on special effects and then add such crappy dialogue.
“Oh if he goes down there theres no air…why its certain suicide” from the crappy dialogue company who also brought you the “Case of the Killer Tomatoes” now there was a movie!
Speaking of movies, I am thinking about releasing “The Rocky Horror Picture Show” and sending free tockets to MUI for PR purposes…I think this ones a winner
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Fawzia says:
Hi Cuk!
As diego pointed out, your quote tags made it difficult to comprehend what you were trying to express & where you were quoting me & which were your comments.
Anyway, so:
But why Iranian people dumped Him?
Why the capital H for the Shah? Is the Shah Allah? š But that was probably a typo, to answer your question- Why the Iranian people dumped him?
Stupidity caused by Islam, believing that dumping a Shah who was focussing on modernization as well as emphasizing Iran’s long & glorious pre Islamic past, was diluting their Islamic culture & practices, & some Utopian world would come into existence should people dump all this unIslamic activities & behavior & go to “real Islam.” š
This is a malaise which Islam creates in many a nation, people want to dump their modern, moderate rulers & go & live in true, 7th century Islam style, believing it an ideal solution for all social & economic ills.
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And just see what happened in Acheh…: https://indonesiamatters.com/forum/chat/learn-spirituality-and-moral-in-acheh/#p1442 … That’s what you get for taking the panacea “syariah”.
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i got a friend back in holland and he’s from iran, been in holland for many years and he’s going back to iran every year, tells me that since the americans are in afghanistan iran is flooded with heroin, many, many young people addicted, tells me that everybody and i mean everybody wants the people that are running the place gone…
i remember many, many years ago a friend of mine came with this little book that was written by khomeini, it contained all these rules and we just couldn’t believe some of the stuff that was in it like how it was ok to f*ck animals as long as you weren’t f*cking in the direction of mekka, how it was not ok to f*ck girls if they were younger than 9 years old but that it was ok if you didn’t know they were younger than 9 years old, most of that book was about women and their period… pretty freaky euy…
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i got a friend back in holland and heās from iran, been in holland for many years and heās going back to iran every year, tells me that since the americans are in afghanistan iran is flooded with heroin, many, many young people addicted, tells me that everybody and i mean everybody wants the people that are running the place goneā¦
Iran was addictd in my teens too, when the Americans hadn’t yet invaded Afghanistan. Infact some say that the addiction is comparable to 19th & early 20th century China’s addiction. Many young people are addicted, many Iranian women choose to go to Dubai as prostitutes-there’s a general feeling of despair. And yeah, everybody at least in Tehran want the people who run the place to get lost.
Thats why its so important for those in power to create Joo hatred & Israel hatred…Islam needs something to hate to survive & conspiracy theories at every turn.
i remember many, many years ago a friend of mine came with this little book that was written by khomeini, it contained all these rules and we just couldnāt believe some of the stuff that was in it like how it was ok to f*ck animals as long as you werenāt f*cking in the direction of mekka, how it was not ok to f*ck girls if they were younger than 9 years old but that it was ok if you didnāt know they were younger than 9 years old, most of that book was about women and their periodā¦ pretty freaky euyā¦
Khomeini thinks that its okay to “theigh” little girls younger than 9, just not penetrate her! Actually, there’s a Shia belief that Muhammad used to do this to Ayesha when she was 6-9, when he had married her, but not yet consummated the marriage! How people can believe that a Prophet theighed a 6 year old, still accept such a man as God’s Prophet is beyond me! š
Even in the Quran-apart from Muhammad Ayesha hadiths, there’s a verse which lends some support to pedophilia:
Quran 65:4
And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who have not yet had their courses. And for those with child, their period shall be till they bring forth their burden. And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah, He maketh his course easy for him.Throughout the ages, the Muslim commentators of the Quran confirmed this explanation of the verse. Here are quotations from the most notable of them.
Al- Tabari (839-923) said, āThis also includes the āIddahā of girls who have not menstruated yet as they are such little.. if divorced after being sexually consummated in marriageā.
Al-Baghawi (1045-1117) said, āThose little girls who have not reached menstruation age yetā.
Az-Zammakhshari (1074-1143) said, āThey are those little girlsā.
Al-Qurtubi (1204-1273) said āShe is the little girlā.
Ibn Kathir (1302-1373) said, The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause. This is the meaning of His saying: āand for those who have no coursesā
Al-Mahali and As-Syyouti (1445-1505) both said, āfor how such young they areā.
Al-Alousi (1802-1854) said, āThose little girls who have not got their menstruation period yetā.
Iranian Muslims thus instituted such a young age of marriage, even in far off Indonesia, there’re clerics who’re marrying little girls!
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=7109300
Such a shame! South East Asia has always given women a pretty high status compared to other parts of Asia or many other places of the world and of course Iranian Zoroastrians, Bahais etc also have a very egalitarian attitude towards women.
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in all honesty, i don’t like discussing religion on the internet, not only do i find it (usually) pointless but also, i’ve had enough troubles because of it, but i’ll never tire when it comes to discussing rotten, corrupt regimes whatever kind of ideology they are hiding behind, be it the koran, the bible, marxism or whatever they want to call it, somehow, like jesse ventura used to say when he was still a “color commentator”, the scum always rises to the top…
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Well, just got back from watching the movie, got our 3 seats together as the demand seems to have slackened. We all gave it 7/10, lots of good effects, bit of a Titanic action replay at one point. Can’t see why the ignorant ‘scholars’ of the MUI got their funny hats in a twist, since we barely noticed any mosque damaged but a whole posse of Cardinals were crushed with the Pope under the ruins of the Vatican.
Ya, Oigal, the handphones are a problem often – not tonight, but another time I ordered the dork next to me to turn his off (then my companion’s went abuzz -most embarrassing!) -
hehehehe, ross, i remember watching a movie here in bandung, chocolate with depp and there was a couple sitting next to me never stopping with their phones, talking loud not watching the movie at all, it went on and on and i got so fed up with it i started throwing the wrappings of all the candy i was eating at them. they left and i watched my movie in peace…
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Nice one!
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Yatro says:
Fawzia, thanks a lot for the ‘wise sayings’ of Khomeini (on marriage, his legitimizing of paedophilia etc.). Can you tell me your source for this? (I’m not doubting your accuracy – on the contrary, it sounds typical of the sort of rubbish people pretending to be Muslim leaders come out with).
On the film 2012 – are the MUI people telling porkies or are they simply stupid? The building which collapsed so dramatically, as Ross rightly says, wasn’t a mosque at all, but St Peter’s Basilica in the Vatican (Christendom’s greatest church). Any educated person would recognize it, but the MUI people didn’t. And, more important, the film wasn’t about the end of the world at all. Admittedly the world’s geographical features underwent a pretty drastic rearrangement, but no end of the world as Christians and Muslims (some of them!) understand it.
When I first came to Indonesia I started collecting newspaper cuttings about silly things that people in authority said. Most were about religion. The more I read them, the more confused I got – ironic, as one of the reasons given for banning this fim was because people who saw it would get confused! My favorite article was about (as usual!) the refusal of a permit to build a church. The reason given was that the refusal was “to promote religious freedom”.
But back to the movie. People who tell porkies or/and are stupid, quite simply do not earn the right to be religious leaders. Nor do people who steal DVDs of the movie.
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donny says:
damn … I failed to get the ticket !!
MUI sure do a very good job promoting this movie … I suspect the director paid them up to promote the movie !! =D
anyhow … back to civilization by tommorow … hopefully I can get some tickets for the weekend
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Try Slipi. we often go there and except on Mondays, it’s not usually packed out!
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At least nobody is going to use 2012 as a global warming alarmist show, now that the panick merchants have been exposed as low-lifes. I was hoping Odinius would reappear on our previous stomping groung, about the ‘Will of God,’ in the wake of the ClimateGate Scandal. I know Ari Brandt had enough of contradiction, but Odin is made of sterner stuff, I’m sure.
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Hi yatro! š
So sorry that I didn’t check this topic for some days & didn’t see what you had written.
Fawzia, thanks a lot for the āwise sayingsā of Khomeini (on marriage, his legitimizing of paedophilia etc.). Can you tell me your source for this? (Iām not doubting your accuracy ā on the contrary, it sounds typical of the sort of rubbish people pretending to be Muslim leaders come out with).
Well, this is a great Iranian opposition site, you can check this:
http://www.homa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56&Itemid=53
Or you could google Khomeini’s sayings, trust me, you’d get many, many results showing all these & more absurd sayings.
I read the Farsi version of his book stating his social, economic & religious principles, but you could purchase an English copy of that, if you’re interested.
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but St Peterās Basilica in the Vatican (Christendomās greatest church). Any educated person would recognize it, but the MUI people didnāt.
That’s a good point (not the part about MUI being ignorant twats, thats a given and selfproven time and again), I must admit I never saw any Mosque getting destroyed but I figured I must have missed it as the movie was way too long and way too many handphones bleeping and flashing so thought I may have just missed it.
Was there really a scene of a Mosque gettign destroyed or not?
Even if there was, God (?) has already shown she has no problems wiping Mosques from the face of the earth via recent earthquakes and tidal waves so is the MUI telling us God F*d up? Would seem a big call even for the kapungans.
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Thanks, Fawzia.
Oigal, I’m pretty sure there was no collapsing mosque (I was particularly looking for it, as it seemed to be one of the MUI people’s main objections to the movie). I think they simply saw a dome and thought therefore it must be a mosque.
By the way, have you seen the report in today’s Sunday Post? It appears that a Government Minister, Tifatul Sembiring, had the lack of sensitivity to proclaim (to the suffering folk of Padang) that Indonesia’s spate of natural disasters are God’s punishment for immorality (he mentions some examples, but omits to mention corruption in high places). I recall a similar comment about the Aceh tsunami, in which the leader of the FPI yobs said (a)It was God’s punishment for immorality, and (b)the reason Aceh was chosen was that the people of Aceh were religious enough to put up with it.
Isn’t this a form of blasphemy,to say that Allah is so incompetent that he punishes the wrong people in such an obscure way that it takes Mr Tifatul and the squeaky-voiced FPI man to explain it?
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kalan says:
I enjoyed the movie! Allah can go fck himself since he is the only one who could stand his own skanky ass.
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Allah can go fck himself since he is the only one who could stand his own skanky ass.
That’s what I call POWER; ultimate self-gratification.
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it appears that a Government Minister, Tifatul Sembiring, had the lack of sensitivity to proclaim (to the suffering folk of Padang) that Indonesiaās spate of natural disasters are Godās punishment for immorality
No have not seen it, but it true then one would hope the people of Padang who lost children, spouses and loved ones can find the way to Jakarta explain to him in the fine way the people from that region can what they think of someone who has the nerve to blame them for their loved ones deaths.
I know what I would do if someone suggested such a thing to me. Certainly be awhile before they made another speech in that vein.
This narrow minded bigot is beginning to represent everything that is wrong with Indonesia at the moment. He certainly appears to lack the intellectual discipline to taken seriously as politician in any other country except Indonesia.
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Welcome back, Assmad !!
we missed you soo much =Dand I personally agree and believe that CIA, FBI, MI-6, ABC, CNN, Discovery, NatGeo and other bule stuff are responsible for ALL the disasters in the world … !! including 1883 Krakatoa eruption, famine in Ethiopia, and motorcycle accident this morning in Kuningan !!
It’s a world of conspiracies !!
CIA & FBI already manufactured a giant ladle (made from Indonesian wood) to stir up the world’s ocean, causing earthquakes & tsunamis with the help of Poseidon and army of humpback whales !!
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rima says:
Watched it last night and there was no, repeat, NO mosques (or any Islamic icon whatsoever) being destroyed.
There was St. Peter’s Basilica being destroyed, there was the giant Jesus statue in Brazil, there was the egyptian obelisk in the white house lawn and the whole white house itself wiped from the face of the earth, but no Islamic icons being destroyed (cos as you might all have heard, their buildings are always ‘saved’, just like the mosque that stood still in Aceh despite the tsunami lol)
They should be flocking to watch it instead of labeling it haram, seeing as the things that are destroyed in the movies belong to the ‘filthy infidels’.. lol
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I do believe 2012 would be the year, not doomsday, but really there will be a shift in human consciousness. I become even more convinced after watching this documentary: http://www.tackfilm.se/en/?id=1259808889938RA35
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HeavenlySword says:
Watched it and disappointed.
Here’s the plot:
1. Go to A
2. Run “Disaster”
3. Wait until inches away from death > Run > Safe
4. Repeat #1 x3What a boring and cheesy movie.
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