Islam & Terrorism
Jul 25th, 2007, in News, by PatungIslam has no relationship to terrorism.
Australian ambassador to Indonesia Bill Farmer said on 23rd July that the various acts of terrorism around the world in recent times had nothing to do with Islam. He told Antara reporters: antara
I can’t see any relationship between Islam and terrorism.
He said he had learned this after having lived in Indonesia for some time.
I realised that the connection between Islam and terrorism was false after living in Indonesia, because what I have heard and read from Indonesian Muslims is that they are opposed to terrorism.
He said that in Australia there were 370,000 Muslims and that the Australian government treated them no differently from anyone else. For example, the government provided funding to Islamic schools, just the same as for other faiths’ schools.
Bill Farmer.
Australia was also keen on having good relations with Indonesian Muslims and was currently funding programs here in Muslim boarding schools and madrassas. Relations with Indonesia could not be carried on without giving Islam due respect:
Islam is an important part of Indonesia and cannot be rejected.
83 Comments on “Islam & Terrorism”
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Cukurungan says:
Tomac,
Don’t say so actually we learned each other in this forums and we only know what is the real content inside other people brain in this virtual forums while without fear of reprisal toward our family.
If we are only talking about say “indahnya keragaman”, “indahnya kedamaian”, “indahnya kasih Tuhan” and “indahnya polygami” you can go to Aam Gym or Gede Prama and forget what we wrote.
My opinion better we unleash our wildly dreams here rather in the real world’s because in this forums, we only put our virtual reputation as a stake and nothing else.
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dewaratugedeanom says:
Shiva said
dewaratugedeanom
The keyboard is mightier than the sword.
In some cases yes, in some cases no.You’re right Shiva, action speaks louder than words. Maybe it’s time to get some, forget about ahimsa for a while and follow Krishna’s command:
“Do not give in to unmanliness, o son of Partha (Arjuna). It does not befit you. Shake off this miserable wavering attitude and rise, mighty warrior, rise!” Bhagavad Gita II:3
[Wahai putera Prtha, jangan menyerah kepada kelemahan yang hina ini. Itu tidak pantas bagimu. Tinggalkanlah kelemahan hati yang remeh itu dan bangunlah, wahai yang menghukum musuh!] Bhagavad Gita II:3
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Aluang Anak Bayang says:
Re Raden,
Dear my brothers, mr. Aluang & Cuk, he ha. ….. This morning I feel very good & fresh after a good slept, I can think better and don’t worry I’m your brothers & will never do any harm to you all, peace on earth & Indonesia.
Sometime it is good to be moslem once in a while 🙂
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Tomaculum said:
I don’t think, that some of you are hoping of a better, more peaceful world, don’t you?
I read the same arguments: westerner are bad, moslems are killers etc., etc. Mine is better, yours is worse.
And your offering to reach a solution? Just hating and killing each other?Tomaculum, whom are you blaming? Islam has almost come so far as to fulfill its agenda. Dar us-Islam against Dar us-Harb. The Nation of Islam against the House of War. All over the world it’s Islam against Christianity, Islam against Atheism, Islam against Judaism, Islam against Hinduism, Islam against Buddhism etc. etc. In a global world of mass communication Islam has compromised itself beyond repair. You also follow the discussions in this forum. What is there left to talk about?
What do you think would happen if all of Islam’s opponents would form a coalition? They will wipe Islam from the earth.
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Tomaculum says:
Dewaratugedeanom,
I do not blame anybody. I am just sad to read so much hatred and animosity in some comments.
Cukurungan,
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Shiva says:
Tomaculum
But some of the guys here argue like them they criticize.
When there are people who follow an ideology that stipulates that the only option for non-believers is to strike them at the neck, then I feel I have no obligation to be polite.
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dewaratugedeanom Says:
What do you think would happen if all of Islam’s opponents would form a coalition? They will wipe Islam from the earth.
Just let them terrorists make one attack in Beijing or Shanghai. You will see what will happen to Islam in Central-Asia.Cukurungan:
The beauty of Islam and Moslem is no one dare to challenge us in this real world’s. I couldn’t blame you, Raden and Shiva that only able to cry in internet even Mr Bush with His strongest armies on earth said :
By SCOTT LINDLAW
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON “” President Bush characterized Islam as a peaceful faith Wednesday, seeking to distance himself from controversial remarks by conservative Christian leaders Pat Robertson and the Rev. Jerry Falwell.You’re cordially invited to continue “cry in internet” my condolence to your limited option to express your anger.
Tomaculum Says:
Cukurungan,
maybe you’re right. But some of the guys here argue like them they criticize.Cukurungan :
My experience if you want to enjoy your life just look and accept whoever them as they’re. Don’t change them. Let dog bark and let cat meow.
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dewaratugedeanom Says:
[Wahai putera Prtha, jangan menyerah kepada kelemahan yang hina ini. Itu tidak pantas bagimu. Tinggalkanlah kelemahan hati yang remeh itu dan bangunlah, wahai yang menghukum musuh!] Bhagavad Gita II:3
Cukurungan :
I will give you a simple lessons how to win in a War. First don’t repeat again the foolish in”Puputan WAR” , the winner in War is not determined by either you’re in Good or Bad side but the stronger will win in the war even they take struggle in the bad sides.
Regard ,
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dewaratugedeanom
All over the world it’s Islam against Christianity, Islam against Atheism, Islam against Judaism, Islam against Hinduism, Islam against Buddhism etc. etc.
Dar al-Harb (Arabic: دار الØرب “house of war”)
Muslim killing Christian
Muslim killing Jew
Muslim killing Hindu
Muslim killing budha
Muslim killing athiestDar al-Islam (Arabic: دار الإسلام l house of peace)
Shia Muslim killing Sunni Muslim.
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Shiva,
and don’t forget:
Hindus killing moslems too
Christians killing moslems too
Buddhists killing moslems too
atheists killing moslems too
Jews killing moslems too
everybody kills somebody too
without any guidance from any “holy” book.
And don’t forget: Christians kill Christians too
So, who is better?
Straying dogs are better as us human, aren’t they? 🙂 -
Tomaculum :
without any guidance from any “holy” book.
Cukurungan :
That’s makes the rest differ from the moslem because according the latest teaching from a fake Jewish (india ngaku yahudi) that killing human and do crimes are ok and goods as long as it isn’t inspired by a holy scripture
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Tomaculum Says:
and don’t forget:
Hindus killing moslems too
Christians killing moslems too
Buddhists killing moslems too
atheists killing moslems too
Jews killing moslems too
everybody kills somebody too
without any guidance from any “holy” book.Exactly!
With out any guidance of a holy book, now why is that, could it be that only the moslems holy book in a manifestion of war, rape, murder, pedophilia and necrophilia, ooooh thats a nice one necrophilia.
I am that sure if we look the koran or hadithes have some thing to say about necrophilia.
The comment by dewaratugedeanom happens to be in the present tense, and as we can see there are many conflicts being fought and in every conflict islam is involved.
All over the world it’s Islam against Christianity, Islam against Atheism, Islam against Judaism, Islam against Hinduism, Islam against Buddhism etc. etc.
Straying dogs are better as us human, aren’t they?
I would totally agree with that 101%.
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All over the world it’s Islam against Christianity, Islam against Atheism, Islam against Judaism, Islam against Hinduism, Islam against Buddhism etc. etc.
Because Islam is One True religion, and everyone is jealous. The day of the return of the mighty ‘Al Mahdi’ is near. It has been predestinated by Allah 50,000 years ago. Every nation will rise against Islam, there will be global jihad (as it is happening now), and moslems will reign supreme. Repent now.
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Chucky
The beauty of Islam and Moslem is no one dare to challenge us in this real world’s.
I seem to recall how the Muslims came back to Madura pretty fast, when the Dayaks started giving the Muslims a taste of their own medicine, and I notice also all you defenders didn’t go and help your brothers once you saw the Dayaks were more than prepared to strike at the neck.
And I am LOL at how the Israelis are always kicking Arab arse.
The only time you people are brave are when you are in a mob, or hiding behind women and children.
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Raden says:
Now I am clear, why Indonesia keep on struggling and never able to take off economically & politically? The culprit is Islam, the teachings have many too versions, among Muslims are killing each other then don’t mention if Muslim will never able to live in peace with the rest non-Muslims. Secondly, because it is only writen in Arabic so it becomes self isolated and deep rooted with middle east culture hence a lot of disturbing rules which when it mixed up with the teaching becoming very disturbing to the non middle easterners audience.
If your nose shape is a small Asian (pesek) and not similar to Arab then why bother with this teaching?
Today I read Kompas & Jkt Post that Acehnese spray paint on any women on the street who do not wear Muslim dress – what the hell is this anarchy?, then killing Korean Christian innocents in Afghan in the name of Allah? Whose Allah?You know the more you read this kind of news, disgusting & I will not be interested to be as Muslim, it is a disgraceful religion, I am sorry.
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Now I am clear, why Indonesia keep on strugling and never able to take off economically & politically?
Because we have people like you attacking Islam at every opportunity.
the culprit is Islam, the teachings have many too versions, among Muslims are killing each other then don’t mention if Muslim will never able to live in peace with the rest non-Muslims. Secondly, because it is only writen in Arabic so it becomes self isolated and deep rooted with middle east culture hence a lot of disturbing rules which when it mixed up with the teaching becoming very disturbing to the non middle easterners audience.
What hypocrite! How can Islam is to blame when its adherents are 1.4 billion strong? Before Islam came to Indonesia, our men were behaving like pimps and the women dressed like the hookers. Now we are smiling because we have the quran.
Today I read Kompas & Jkt Post that Acehnese spray paint on any women on the street who do not wear Muslim dress – what the hell is this anarchy?
Donkey, the women were revealing their aurat. These grafitti artists were protecting the women from being raped. A good Muslimah should not dress like a Jew as per Islamic teaching.
….. then killing Korean Christian innocents in Afghan in the name of Allah? Whose Allah?
The Koreans are not innocent because they are Christians. Therefore their blood are halal.
You know the more you read this kind of news, disgusting & I will not be interested to be as Muslim, it is a disgraceful religion, I am sorry
Good riddance, Allah has sealed your heart.
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Shiva :
I seem to recall how the Muslims came back to Madura pretty fast, when the Dayaks started giving the Muslims a taste of their own medicine, and I notice also all you defenders didn’t go and help your brothers once you saw the Dayaks were more than prepared to strike at the neck.
Cukurungan :
Did you think we are blind? We will strick back if un-justice done but Madura was slaughtered by Dayak wasn’t because they’re moslem but the Madura bad attitude and greedy caused them be punished by GOD. Dayak people don’t even touch a moslem banjar, moslem java and moslem melayu.
The fresh example is Poso and ambon conflict when we are ready in full application ot Medina Verses suddenly our enemies asked UN intervention.
Tell me who dare to challenge us openly even yourself isn’t more than a crocoah make noise.
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Ihaknt says:
What’s a crocoah? is that another sect of Islam?
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Robert Patterson says:
Cukurungan: Every moslem should be a terrorist and you have an ambition to be a cowardly, brutal, inhuman, blood-soaked terrorist – how sad, how very sad to want to kill and maim others ONLY because they have a different religion. And you say that islam is the religion of peace so you are a liar as well as a prospective murderous killer?? Like your sick death-loving religion you are also a very sick person and remember islam is not an asian belief so you are only a pale imitation of an Arab and as you well know Arabs see you as a lesser person a lesser moslem.
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Raden
Today I read Kompas & Jkt Post that Acehnese spray paint on any women on the street who do not wear Muslim dress.
In the name of sharia, and after saying a greeting, several youths claiming to be students of an Islamic boarding school in North Aceh tried to spray paint on the tight pants of several women. They accused the visitors at Cafe SC in front of Cut Meutia Buket Rata General Hospital, Blang Mangat district, of violating Islamic law by not wearing Muslim women’s clothes.
The raid, which occurred earlier this month, met with the cafe owner’s resistance, and one of the youths was injured. Local police captured some of the other youths later in the day.
Raden
what the hell is this anarchy?
No not anarchy, just another example of the Islamic bravery. (Mob-rule =Terror)
In retaliation, the next day hundreds of Islamic students traveling in three trucks attacked the cafe, destroying some equipment and a sedan parked outside. The cafe owner was injured in the incident, Serambi Indonesia reported.
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Mas Aluang,
Beware once you become a moslem no one can help you. You will be addicted to sniff the halal blood like you enjoy satay.
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haha, Mas Cuk,
Like Sputjam, I have been practising Taqiyah all along. I am trying to figure out how hateful these kaffirs are. Don’t they understand ‘there is no compulsion in Islam’? It is crystal clear.
I have been hacking into their accounts to find where they lived. Those who dare insult Islam should be hacked to death. No one is going to take our Allah-given rights to have sex with children and in-laws.
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Mas Aluang,
Remember from now on, you are a terrorist your main duties is to cast terror in every hearts of un-believers so that they don’t even dare to think on insulting us.
Remember even your sperm is precious of the terrorist sperm.
Remember we love death as the other love life.
Raden,
You are 101% correct, Islam and moslem are culprit of the world’s misery so don’t go to the moslem majority countries such as
Brunai, Malaysia, Qatar, Oman, Abudabhi, Kuwait, UEA, Arab Saudi and Turkey because their life are so miserable full of famine, murder, kidnapping and rapes.I recommend you go to Non-Moslem Majority countries where their life like heaven on earth in which full of peace and happiness such as in Congo, Laos, North Korea, Columbia, Philipina, Nepal, India, Srilangka, South Africa and Buthan
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Chucky
Remember even your sperm is precious of the terrorist sperm.
Remember this the next time you eat sate kambing.
Islamic Teachings on sex with animals:
“The meat of horses, mules, or donkeys is not recommended. It is strictly forbidden if the animal was sodomized while alive by a man. In that case, the animal must be taken outside the city and sold.”
“If one commits an act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned, and the price of it paid to its owner by him who sodomized it.”
Editor’s note: The poor animal first is sodomized and then killed and burned. What an Islamic justice towards animals? Where are the animal
rights group?“If a man (God protect him from it!) fornicates with an animal and ejaculates, ablution is necessary.”
Editor’s note: It does not say who should have ablution: the animal or the man?
http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445
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Dear Mas Cuk. As-salaamu alaykum.
The Anti-Christ and Al Mahdi is coming. There are signs everywhere. Only Allah knows the exact date. The attributes of the Anti-Christ is that he is one-eyed, his hair is curly, and it is written on his forehead Kafir (unbeliever). As for the Al Mahdi, his name is like the name of prophet Muhammad (pbuh), and he looks like him as he is one of his descendants. After the Al Mahdi’s coming, earth will be filled with justice after it has been suffering from injustice and oppression. Jesus (pbuh) will come, as reported in the Hadith of Bukhari, to break the cross, kill wild boar and pig, and during his time, poverty will have been eradicated that money will be so abundant without people taking it. He will rule with much justice. Allah knows best.
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Robert Patterson Says:
Cukurungan: Every moslem should be a terrorist and you have an ambition to be a cowardly, brutal, inhuman, blood-soaked terrorist – how sad, how very sad to want to kill and maim others ONLY because they have a different religion. And you say that islam is the religion of peace so you are a liar as well as a prospective murderous killer?? Like your sick death-loving religion you are also a very sick person and remember islam is not an asian belief so you are only a pale imitation of an Arab and as you well know Arabs see you as a lesser person a lesser moslem.
Cukurungan :
I couldn’t disagree anymore with you that’s Islam is a killers Religion while Christian is peace loving religion, the following is list of the mega project crime achievement by Moslem:
1)400 years of the Annihilations Project of more than 100 million natives American and AUSTRALIAN.
2) 70 years a go we completed project to kill each other in WW1&2 with death tolls close to 100 millions
3) 60 years a go we completed Annihilations project of 12 million Jews.Moslem also promote a fake democracy and humanity because we are talking about human rights and democracy and ridiculus referendum of papunese while we moslem forgotten that our existence in America and Australia were on expenses of the annihilation native America and Aussi.
I also agreed that Christian& Catholik are a religion for all mankind and not religion for bule only so why they have pope’s from black africa, china, India, Arab and Melayu.
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Chucky
1)400 years of the Annihilations Project of more than 100 million natives American and AUSTRALIAN.
Good for you that we haven’t played cowboys and Muslims yet.
The cowboys went west, and the moslems went east.
2) 70 years ago we completed project to kill each other in WW1 & 2 with death tolls close to 100 millions.
Oh yes, world war one, where the moslems were very active, and (excuse the howls of laughter) moslems suffered a crushing defeat for the Islamic cause and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
Then came the worst possible insult.
LOL
The Western colonial powers set up a Jewish colony in the Fertile Crescent and called it the State of Israel.
60 years a go we completed Annihilations project of 12 million Jews.
Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el-Husseini.
Once in Berlin, the Mufti received an enthusiastic reception by the “Islamische Zentralinstitut” and the whole Islamic community of Germany, which welcomed him as the “F?hrer of the Arabic world.” In an introductory speech, he called the Jews the “most fierce enemies of the Muslims” and an “ever corruptive element” in the world. Husseini soon became an honored guest of the Nazi leadership and met on several occasions with Hitler. He personally lobbied the F?hrer against the plan to let Jews leave Hungary, fearing they would immigrate to Palestine. He also strongly intervened when Adolf Eichman tried to cut a deal with the British government to exchange German POWs for 5000 Jewish children who also could have fled to Palestine. The Mufti’s protests with the SS were successful, as the children were sent to death camps in Poland instead. One German officer noted in his journals that the Mufti would liked to have seen the Jews “preferably all killed.” On a visit to Auschwitz, he reportedly admonished the guards
To show gratitude towards his hosts, in 1943 the Mufti travelled several times to Bosnia, where on orders of the SS he recruited the notorious “Hanjar troopers,” a special Bosnian Waffen SS company which slaugh-tered 90% of Bosnia’s Jews and burned countless Serbian churches and villages. These Bosnian Muslim recruits rapidly found favor with SS chief Heinrich Himmler, who established a special Mullah Military school in Dresden.
The only condition the Mufti set for his help was that after Hitler won the war, the entire Jewish population in Palestine should be liquidated. After the war, Husseini fled to Switzerland and from there escaped via France to Cairo, were he was warmly received. The Mufti used funds received earlier from the Hilter regime to finance the Nazi-inspired Arab Liberation Army that terrorized Jews in Palestine.
Chucky
How can you be such a dick head, could it be because you have more fore-skin than brains.
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Mas Aluang,
Remember from now on, you are a terrorist your main duties is to cast terror in every hearts of un-believers so that they don’t even dare to think on insulting us.
Mas Cuk, I lived in bule’s countries and I have trained with Australia’s ADF and Sweden’s FORS, so it is imperative that I have to stay alive longer in this temporary world. Allah has chosen me to help our jihadi brothers. Besides, I know enough English to download bomb making recipe from the internet. I am mass producing one-size-fit-all bomb straps for you and our jihadi brothers. Inshallah, all our brothers will get their just rewards in heaven. Remember, each time you hesistated to wear that suspender, remember Al-Suyuti (d.1505) –
“Each time we sleep with a houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [ie Muslim] will marry seventy houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetising vaginas.”
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Aluang Anak Bayang
Mas Cuk, I lived in bule’s countries and I have trained with Australia’s ADF and Sweden’s FORS.
Wow, jag är imponerad!
Har last vad ni skrivit och dina antydningar att du ar ute och spranger bade manniskor och ting i luften, lar knappast leda till serios debatt, eller vad tror ni
Allah has chosen me to help our jihadi brothers. Besides, I know enough English to download bomb making recipe from the internet. I am mass producing one-size-fit-all bomb straps for you and our jihadi brothers. Inshallah, all our brothers will get their just rewards in heaven. Remember, each time you hesistated to wear that suspender, remember Al-Suyuti (d.1505) –
Så fortsätt du att vara en nyttig liten sjuk idiot.
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some of you guys are fundamentalists in your beliefs or unbeliefs.
And your intention is not discussing about something but to show your hate and to polemise.
I don’t think, that some of you are hoping of a better, more peaceful world, don’t you?
I read the same arguments: westerner are bad, moslems are killers etc., etc. Mine is better, yours is worse.
And your offering to reach a solution? Just hating and killing each other?