Anti Apostasy
Apr 12th, 2007, in News, by PatungAn anti apostasy group in Bandung pays a visit to a church.
Dozens of members of the Anti Apostasy Division (Divisi Anti Pemurtadan (DAP)) of the Forum Ulama Umat Indonesia visited a Christian church (Gereja Kristen Pasundan (GKP)) on Kebon Jati road in Bandung on 4th April to enquire whether the church had broken its agreement not to convert Muslims to Christianity.
Suryana of the DAP said the church had agreed two years ago not to approach Muslims and this agreement had been signed by pastor Krisna from GKP and Muhammad Mu’min from another anti-apostasy group, the AGAP (Aliansi Gerakan Antipemurtadan).
Gereja Kristen Pasundan (GKP).
However Suryana said the church had violated the agreement by converting some Muslims in the Garut and Pangauban areas of Bandung. Each convert was given five million rupiah ($550) by the church, he said.
Pastor Krisna was not at the church when the DAP men arrived and a later meeting date has been agreed upon by both the church and the DAP at the West Bandung police station. tempo
37 Comments on “Anti Apostasy”
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Ihaknt says:
yawn.
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Aluang anak Bayang says:
One sin, and we are no longer perfect. Anyone of us is sinless in our whole life? none.
What about original sin? I was rehearsing for another Abrahamic fairy tale. There goes my plan.
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Arema says:
What about original sin? I was rehearsing for another Abrahamic fairy tale. There goes my plan.
Are we punished for Adam’s sin?
http://www.carm.org/questions/adamsin.htmIf Jesus is God in flesh, why did He not inherit original sin?
http://www.carm.org/questions/Jesus_sin.htm -
Molisan Tono says:
I quote:
Brajaeka Says:
“It’s true that some nasrani people would like to convert some islam person to take their religion by giving them some money, did not anybody know about pengkristen, it was in soeharto era that was a clash between Christian general with moslem general within Indonesian armed forces, remember some Pangdam was Christian and replace with moslem when soeharto was given message after he visited ka’bah.”
You must be a very hurtful moslem since you never got the money huh?
I quote again:
Arema Says:
April 12th, 2007 at 3:55 pmI have no idea what the real situation is, but ideally, the church would give that money to support needy church member(s), as an act of kindness and nothing else.
AMEN to that brother, wonder how strange people think, there’s no such thing Christian pay people to be save.
What a jobless people, get a job mate!
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Patrick says:
In the western world various religious groups are always trying to convert people to their particular brand of religion. Even a mosque I drive by frequently has a sign up inviting non-believers to hear the truth about Allah and his prophet Mohamed. Jehovah witnesses are constantly knocking on doors. Annoying sometimes? yes! but harmful no! Nothing wrong with that as that is part of freedom of religion, the right for an individual to choose what he wishes to believe and who or what he chooses to worship. If you don’t like it just say no in a peaceful manner.
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camion says:
Attn: AREMA…. There are no gods. The fairytale goes that jesus was a jew. religious text is created by the equivalent of theologians,the few people who had a minimal education in primitive times.Belief only offers false hope & promises, mish mashed with a host of unbelievable rhetoric & fearmongering. I will bet my house you cannot produce evidence of any god anywhere.At last count there is over 30,000 gods on offer mixed in with over 10,000 different belief systems (I am informed ?) Its all about money,power,politics.You are being screwed,so find faith in yourself & get some life experience under your belt.People in places of religious manipulation should all be rounded up & put to work in chain gangs to repair the poor quality roads with a toothbrush as punishment for their devilry.The real estate should be sold off & spread amongst the poor for a better quality life (starting with the kings of devilry in the vatican). Amen
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If you guys do not fear the wrath of God (or Hell in other words), then you should be the winner of Fear Factor with 999 billion dollars prize money. You deserve 999 billion times that amount, in my opinion.
It is a place of eternal suffering and torment. Mark the word eternal. There is no way out, there is no end, there is no relief, thus there is no hope. I am trembling with fear when I imagined that place… and I cry when I imagined my brothers and sisters are in that place…
I want to point out something to you… God has implanted us with a thing called “the seed of faith”. Through this, you are able to feel the presence of God. Somehow in every man’s heart will pop up a question… “there must be a Creator out there, much greater than us…”. That’s why the existence of God is one of the hottest debated question in the world. But, like any other seeds, if it is not watered and fertilized properly, and kept being trampled (by saying “there’s no God”, “God is only for the weak”, “I am capable enough to save myself”, etc), the seed will die.
In every man’s heart there is a “hole” that can only be filled by God. We can fill the other “holes” with friendship, money, wealth, bla2, but this hole is exclusively for God. With this hole left empty, one can’t get the true meaning of joy and happiness. You can see all over the world people amassing wealth, some even richer than the whole 75% of Indonesia combined. But if they truly ask themselves and being honest to themselves, are they truly happy with just a mountain of gold? Are they truly feel joyous? Happy yes, truly happy maybe not, if he doesn’t know God.
I think I’ve typed this before, but never mind. I type this again for you, my brother Ihaknt.
That “invisible man” is God. Among many natures of God, I would like to highlight two: He is Love (kasih) and Just (adil). He loves all of us, truly, madly, deeply (I hope I don’t infringe copyright here hahaha:D) and would like to see us all in Heaven with Him, sharing His blessings and love. On the other hand, God is just, and will punish those who commit sin. God is perfect, so He demands perfection. One sin, and we are no longer perfect. Anyone of us is sinless in our whole life? none. Thus we shall receive God’s punishment, no escape.
Now the contradiction, two God’s character, love vs just, which one prevails? It seems like there are no way out. God can either let us enter heaven or dump us to hell, but that will betray His nature as both love and just. How could this contradicting problem be solved? Through Jesus.
Jesus came to the world to pay for our sin, receiving God’s wrath in our place by being crucified on a cross and thrown to Hell. On the third day He rose up to Heaven, which symbolizes victory against death. Jesus did all that so that those who believe in Him can go to Heaven. Isn’t that wonderful?