Indonesian Islamic State (NII)

Mar 23rd, 2007, in News, by

Action is urged against the Indonesian Islamic State (NII, Negara Islam Indonesia) movement.

The Jakarta Post says former members of a religious group affiliated with the Indonesian Islamic State (NII, Negara Islam Indonesia) movement urged the Bandung chapter of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) to issue a warning about the congregation.

The former members recently went to the MUI Bandung chapter on Jl. Martadinata in Bandung, West Java, asking it to alert the public to aggressive tactics used by the movement.

Dede Ahmad, 34, a former NII member, said he was worried over increasingly strident efforts to collect donations, supposedly to establish an Islamic state.

Now they are aggressively campaigning in Depok (West Java) and Jakarta. We don’t want to see them thrive again in Bandung like seven years ago

Dede once led an NII chapter in the area of Pulogadung, Jakarta from 2000 to 2003. Dede said it was difficult to track what the money was actually being used for.

Such methods used to be applied by my colleagues to gather funds to be transferred to the organization

He added that as an NII leader he had to pay Rp 16 million ($1,700) per month collected from members.

The NII movement is known to recruit new members through prayer groups at public and university mosques. Each member is obliged to pay a monthly contribution while those who do not have been known to be punished by being isolated in rooms. Fearing punishment, many members have ended up resorting to theft, deceit and blackmail to get the money, it is said.

Egi Rahmadi, 25, whose younger brother had been an NII member, said monitoring of prayer groups on university campuses should be stepped up because the NII gained new members through religious mentoring.

My brother entered NII through an introduction at a campus prayer activity.

Responding to the complaints, Rafani Achyar, general secretary of MUI’s West Java chapter, said both security officers and government agents had been unable to determine who was behind the NII movement. (Panji Gumilang of Al Zaytun has in the past been pointed at as a leader.) Thus it was difficult for MUI to attempt to deal with it.

Rafani said MUI had not remained silent, however. He said the organization had held activities within the last year in both East and West Java to explain its views against the establishment of an Islamic state (of (West) Java, or South Sulawesi, the areas where NII is traditionally strongest) within the unitary state of the Republic of Indonesia.

We are encountering difficulties following up on this case due to the absence of evidence.

Hedi Muhammad of the “Deviation Movement Investigation Team” of the “Indonesian Muslim Followers and Ulema Forum” said that as of 2000, at least 260 former NII members had repented and were ready to testify in court against the group.

The problem is that there should have been a case report from the police at the court. No investigation of the case has been conducted by the West Java police thus far.


63 Comments on “Indonesian Islamic State (NII)”

  1. Matahari says:

    Ahmad,
    You bow Arab Man, and you’ve forgot that Arab men have rape the TKI, beat to death the TKI, and don’t even pay their wages fairly, there are lots of sad and cruel story of the TKI going to Arab, they treated the TKI women just like an animal.

    The recent event cause by the Arab men was letting the Indonesian Hajj (nearly 100 of them) starved to death, it’s a painful truth.

    Meanwhile, this country enjoy hundred hundred of million dollars pouring into this country every year by white men, how much money the Arab men have pour into this country?

    And guess what? which countries who came first to helped the Acehnese who are predominantly Muslim when the tsunami disaster happened?

  2. Tomaculum says:

    Matahari, cool down, A. Sumboratsono is just trying to copy Borat/Ali G.

    Btw: You’re right, the white men came first to help in Aceh. But they are still infidels (for some people). So they welcome the white mens money and help but they want them to leave soon with a snappish thanks thrown on their back. Because it is always possible, that they are sent by the CIA or MOSSAD.

    That is Indonesia?
    Sigh.
    And the Arab men? You’ve wrote it.

  3. Matahari says:

    Tomaculum,

    You are right, so I’m saying no more.

    PEACE

  4. Rockstar says:

    Pak Tomalcum: I do bow to the Arab Man because he brought Islam to my country. Also, he has the ‘Darah Mohammed,’ the blood of Mohammed.

    Lol you make me chuckle a bit. There are plenty of darah terrorists too. 🙂 So to say this to you I will never bow to anyone esp Arabs. 🙂

    they want them to leave soon with a snappish thanks thrown on their back. Because it is always possible, that they are sent by the CIA or MOSSAD.

    Yes I fully agree with you, I heard that quite a lot of CIA / MOSSAD disguise as an Acehnese. Thank goodness for the technology galore of the white peeps. 🙂

  5. Andrew says:

    Also, he has the ‘Darah Mohammed,’ the blood of Mohammed.

    Yes, A. “the madman” Sudarsono, the blood of Osama, too. 😀

    And when you bow to Arab men, watch your behind.

  6. Cukurungan says:

    White mans already commited too many sins (most of mother criminal act against humanity were originated by whiteman). A goods deeds and a bad deeds are no different for them, theirs angle and evil sides are no longer attached in theirs hearts but rather in theirs shelf they will use the angles mask when so required and easily change to the evil mask when they see benefiting by doing so. But don’t worry there are still many of us so impressed that the whiteman are a good people while the Arabic and Asia man are bad people like in the holywood movies.

    Arab men didn’t came here to hunt TKW whereas the white man sneaked here looking for an exotic Bali kid while they were boring with KAMBODIA AND PHILIPHINE KIDS.

    There were so many the courageous whiteman stories here one of them is Mr Westerling was so famous with his heroic action slaughtering 40,000 un-armed civilian in Sulawesi.

    He he he moslem didn’t have enough time to discover technology because we have been loaded with building a mosque and praying a long days therefore we just buy what we need from the whiteman so fair deal and no need thanks to them.
    Whiteman are also a God made like cow and horses. Therefore ultimate owner of the praise is belonging to God only and nothing else.

    thanks,

  7. Dimp says:

    Hi Cuk,

    I believe it is not true that moslems did not have enough time to do anything else beside building mosques and praying, you have just invented a new level of idiocy and ignorance.

    Congratulations.

  8. Ihaknt says:

    Cuk, you just insulted Muslims altho it seems your intention was to insult the ‘whites’. You pretty much just called Muslims lazy. Is insulting other races the only thing you can do? If we took you as an example to represent the Muslims, does it mean that NII will have the approach you do, i.e insult others? Wos, that’s very Islamic.

  9. Rockstar says:

    Whiteman are also a God made like cow and horses.

    Cukurungan, now I know why I don’t like you at all (we probably share the same feeling twd eo). To me you sound like Hitler himself. As much as I hate terorists from Arab countries, I have never put them as the same level as animal. Although they trully deserve that.

    As far as the white peeps go to Bali looking for kids. They don’t go to Bali just to have sex. Some of them go there with their family. You are so desperate trying to discredit white peeps by talking non-sense. Beside the same thing happens in your own country, done by your own countrymen. What say you?

    Westerling was not an American, I guess by this context you were trying to say white peeps = american? Even if it’s not, our own former president (si suharto) did far worse than him.

  10. Tomaculum says:

    Cukurungan,
    you’re right. Many people are fond of generalizing.
    1. “Arab men didn’t came here to hunt TKW whereas the white man sneaked here looking for an exotic Bali kid while they were boring with KAMBODIA AND PHILIPHINE KIDS.
    They never heard about Arabs with kawin siri on Puncak some months ago, hm? Or they’ve simply removed it out of their sight so that the Arabian attributes suit to their view of the world?
    And how many paedophiliac clientele are there in Indonesia? Ooops, sorry, there are none of such sinner in Indonesia, aren’t they? Indonesian are all morally undoubted, aren’t they? 🙂
    2. There are many social bodies in the white man world trying to help the poors in this world (including in Indonesia). I wonder if they have already heard about Medecins sans frontieres (non religious), Caritas (rel.), Misereor (rel.) and other more? And I’m sure those bodies are not sent by the CIA or MOSSAD. 🙂
    A goods deeds and a bad deeds are no different for them, theirs angle and evil sides are no longer attached in theirs hearts but rather in theirs shelf they will use the angles mask when so required and easily change to the evil mask when they see benefiting by doing so.
    Wow, brilliant psychological expertise of the white men. Or just a common platitudes and generalisations ? They should better count the sins of both sides and they will wonder, how balanced are the two sides (they maybe should try to be fair and list all of the misdeeds from both sides, hm? I know it is very difficult, maybe they just can try it. 🙂 )
    3.”There were so many the courageous whiteman stories here one of them is Mr Westerling was so famous with his heroic action slaughtering 40,000 un-armed civilian in Sulawesi.
    I remember Kartosuwiryo, 1965 (there were also many innocent unarmed civilians killed. Or didn’t you know it?), Papuan cases etc.
    Ooops, Kartosuwiryo was ahero for some moslems, hm? And 1965 was just the fault of PKI? And Papuan, what kind of creature they are? 🙁
    4.”He he he moslem didn’t have enough time to discover technology because we have been loaded with building a mosque and praying a long days therefore we just buy what we need from the whiteman so fair deal and no need thanks to them.
    Better spending money to build housse of worships than to give your hungry neighboor some food? Because this is a warrant to come to heaven? 🙂
    5. “Whiteman are also a God made like cow and horses.
    And between the cows and horses are rats and worms?
    🙂 🙁

  11. Hassan says:

    Tomaculum: You said, “So, Hassan, you’re awaiting, that Indonesia will be no more a bacward country if the Indonesian moslems do exactly “what islam had instructed”?”

    Of course tom, if every Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus etc. in Indonesia performs their religions ideally according to the original teachings of their respective religions, Indonesia will thrive and advance.

    For example, all religions taught their followers to never commit corruption, so if every followers actually followed that particular guideline Indonesia will be free from corruption. No religions would like their followers to be lazy, yet if most Indonesians seems to be lazy which means they’re not following their religions, are they?

    “..it will be better too if the Indonesian Christians actually follow the teaching of their religion and not only praying, praying and praying, like some other religions do, without doing what to do?”

    What you don’t seem to understand about Islam is that it’s not only about praying, praying and praying all day long. Islam actually taught their followers to be balanced between worldly matters and spiritual matters. ‘Pahala’ can be achieved from both performing acts of worships and committing good deeds and doing acts of kindness towards others.

    In matters of daily life, Allah commanded us to do our utmost in effort, and only then we must surrender the results to Him, pray to Him so He will grant the best outcome. Actions comes first, then prayers. Actually, that’s the reason why the Muslims’ shalat consisted of not only words and prayers, but also actions (standing up, bowing, prostrating, sitting etc.). The true Islamic teaching doesn’t like no actions and talks only.

    And why did Indonesian Muslims seems to be lazy and only pray, pray, and pray all day long without actions? Because they’re not exactly doing what they’re instructed! They chose to do only what’s easy for them: praying. While actions are much harder for them. Hence, most Indonesian Muslims can not be considered as good Muslims simply because their deeds didn’t represent what Islam had instructed.

    “We talk and talk and talk and pray and pray and pray and meanwhile the poorest are becoming poorer and the starving are dying miserable and Indonesia sink more and more in chaos, poverty, violence and anarchy.”

    I too felt your agony, Tom. But what can we do as citizens, if our government kept letting us down again and again. From Soekarno to SBY, none of them can be considered competent. The government was supposed to spearhead any effort in advancing the country, yet our government authorities seemed to be too busy enriching themselves to care a damn about the average citizens.

  12. Tomaculum says:

    Hassan,
    What you don’t seem to understand about Islam is that it’s not only about praying, praying and praying all day long.
    You believe it or not, but I understand it. But the reality is a little bit different, isn’t it? As you also wrote in your comment here:
    And why did Indonesian Muslims seems to be lazy and only pray, pray, and pray all day long without actions? Because they’re not exactly doing what they’re instructed! They chose to do only what’s easy for them: praying.“.
    And that is exactly what I mean!!
    Btw: I know many hard-working moslems.

  13. Tomaculum says:

    And Hassan,
    The fault must be placed on Indonesian Muslims who failed to to do what Islam had instructed, and those hypocrits in the government.
    Maybe I’ve misunderstood you, but it sound for me like if only Islam is decisive for the future of Indonesia. But aren’t there also followers of other religions and believes also dispositive for Indonesia?
    let us say: Do what your religion instruct and do simultaneously good things for Indonesia whatever your religion and believes and whatever skin color, form of eye or nose you have.
    🙂

  14. Cukurungan says:

    Dimp,

    Sorry for my previous words to you, I now understood you’re a good gentleman with a heart still functioning.

    Ihaknt,

    My girl you couldn’t resist anymore the temptation to comment back to my post but you seemed to have forgotten that I am the sokpintarman and the dirty moslem and not a good moslem.

    Rockstar,

    Why you still believe a myths that human is better than animal. The animal killed other Animal with clear reason to avoid hungry whereas human kill other human being almost beyond any limitation sometimes just for the sake of the entertainment.

    Unless, the human proved their self better than the animal, they haven’t deserved yet to claim otherwise.

    thanks,

  15. Hassan says:

    Tomaculum: “You believe it or not, but I understand it. But the reality is a little bit different, isn’t it?”

    Hence, the blame must be placed on the followers and not the religion, isn’t it?
    🙂

    “Maybe I’ve misunderstood you, but it sound for me like if only Islam is decisive for the future of Indonesia. But aren’t there also followers of other religions and believes also dispositive for Indonesia?”

    Indeed, but isn’t true that although the US had many ethnic groups living there with their various religions, still the major determinant of their successes are the majority Christian-Caucasians?

    Indonesia is a good example where the minority groups have relatively fared better than the majority, well at least in the economic and welfare sense. Yet as a country, we are still behind. So, I think for the long-run the advancement of the majority (Muslims) must be an important (but not the only) priority, and the minorities must be supported and given equal treatment. 🙂

    “Do what your religion instruct and do simultaneously good things for Indonesia whatever your religion and believes and whatever skin color, form of eye or nose you have.”

    Of course, that goes without saying, Tom.

  16. Mohammed Khafi says:

    Hassan Said: still the major determinant of their successes are the majority Christian-Caucasians?

    I think the Jewish Media and Financial Barons would tend to disagree with that statement, as would the African Americans.

    Peace

  17. Hassan says:

    Mohammed Khafi: “I think the Jewish Media and Financial Barons would tend to disagree with that statement, as would the African Americans.”

    Yes, in fact I stopped to ponder a while about the Jewish Media and Financial Barons before completing the particular sentence you mentioned. But I continued it anyway because of this logic: Even if the US had those Jews and the African Americans, if their Christian-Caucasian community as the majority there was as backwards as we (Indonesian Muslims) are in Indonesia, I don’t think the US will be where they are now.

  18. Ihaknt says:

    Cuk, it’s not temptation, I just don’t understand and am amazed how someone advocates stupidity and is proud of it and actually expects to be heard too and also claims to represent and defend Islam, you are nothing but marring the already-tarnished name. At the same time I feel sorry that you must be from a mental institution, and if that’s the case then I understand. I don’t think now that you are defending Islam anymore, I think your mission is to show people how ignorant some followers are so that they see how bad Islam is. Nice trick Cuk.

  19. Nightwatchman says:

    Whoa, Islamic state? With cash sucked from thievery and blackmailing as the war fund?

    Thanks for the laugh!

    Seriously, are these wiseguys thinking that the Seal of the Prophets himself allows terrors, blackmails, robberies? And even more, RACIALISM? I tire of the so-called ‘real’ Muslims that constantly bursting out fetid swears towards the west.

    But alas, debating these people is even less useful then useless. All that they’ll say is that I need to repent. As if they don’t need to.

    Do me a favor. Dig a hole, hop in, and shut up.

  20. Achamad Sudarsono said:

    Please you are to listen to my instruction: Be the Good Muslim. Last hari Jumat Kliwon after jumatan at a family slametan I was talking to Mbah Suroh through the family Dukun who said it had to be like that. But I am glad you all agree we have to fight for NII.

    Hey Mad, do you believe in God Almighty or Mbah Suro? I don’t think Islam allows witchcraft, it’s evil!

  21. Rockstar says:

    That’s not the case Cuk, you said something that is very degrading in my opinion.
    I understand, the way we behave we can be lower than an animal but to say something like :

    Whiteman are also a God made like cow and horses.

    to me that is out of the line. Not because it’s about white people, it’s because they are human and so we are.

  22. Cukurungan says:

    It seemed that Mr Ahmed President of NIA successfully dragged other post to his sarcastic comments. Of course Mr President wouldn’t bow to anyone include Arab man or asked Mbah Suro for something. Mr Ahmad was previously the host of “believe it or not” so he will always mixing the facts and the fiction and ask the audience to guess it.

  23. Cukurungan says:

    Tomac,

    Many thanks for your precious time on commenting in my post.
    Here my responses:

    What’s wrong with Arab man in puncak. They came there and purchased what they need while PSK was already there even without Arab Visitors whereas White man sneaked in Bali and they were using masks as Good Grandfathers while hiding their real intention.

    Don’t get me wrong I didn’t hate people personally and there are also many good white man like you said but it doesn’t mean much as long as their government is practicing “Mature Policy”. Can you tell me why the white man produce 200% surplus milk for the next 10 years and subsidies their farmers six times more than what has promised through the aid packet for Africa. Can you tell me where American GM (genetically modified) will be dumped?
    Even only with my one eye, it is clearly used to destroy farm and livehoods in the black and brown people’s country.
    In the head line news will be the white man provide aid packet to the black man but behind the scene the white man takes it back from the black man 6 times than they have been given to the black.

    Killing among ourselves are just natural balance to control our population, don’t be so naive even the killing among white man is still much higher than the killing among melayu man.

    Giving food to the hungry people is more preferable than building mosque because so many times God said in Quran the importance of giving food to the poor whereas I couldn’t find yet God’s request to build mosque in QURAN.

    thanks

  24. Tomaculum says:

    Dear Cukurungan,
    the Arab men didn’t came to PSKs but the agents sent for daughters of poor families.
    Not all of Arab men do this, but not all of White men go to Bali for such purposes. Believe it or not, there are also real good grandfathers in the white man world.
    The european country produce indeed a surplus of some foods, a.e. milk. To stabilize the economical situation in their country (read: the prise in the Europen Union they destroy those surplus of food. This ist criticized also by the white men living there. If they subsidise their farmers, isn’t it their right? Should they always giving more for help outwards then in their own country. If you earn 1000 000,00 Rp in a month, would you spend 900 000,00 for others? Wouldn’t you first help your daughter or son or sister before you give your money to others???
    Should the white men excuse themselves for trying to stabilize their wealth??
    How much money has Indonesia spend for help in Africa?
    Do you know how much the white men in the EU spend for the black and brown men in every year for help and development aid? For help to help themselves? And how much of this help are used really for the aim? Are they obligated to do it judificially? Or is it a little bit humanity too?
    Do you know that the world bank is the only real non-profit bank in this world. That they lend money to the poor nations? And do you know how many country don’t pay their debts back?
    And do you know who is the financier of this project? Yess, you’re right: it is the white men. Not the brown, yellow or green men.
    Dear Cukurungan,
    at the beginning of the GM food development the people (who began with it) thought about the overpopulation and the complications (incl. deficit of food and of the ground where the people plant it and off course they also think at sensibility of the plants against sickness and bugs). So they try to develop food plants which owe a fast growing character and low sensibility against sickness and bugs.
    You believe it or not, there are also good guys among the white men who thinks human and global.
    It is very sad for me, to read, that many people always suspect every deed of the white men.
    Btw: isn’t it legitimate that every human, every country wants to make profit??

    Killing among ourselves are just natural balance to control our population, don’t be so naive even the killing among white man is still much higher than the killing among melayu man.
    Maybe you can giev me an example? Or do you count the Irakis to the white men??? 🙂
    And isn’t it better to regulate the birthrate than to kill each other to reduce the overpopulation??

  25. Rockstar says:

    Killing among ourselves are just natural balance to control our population

    I’m speechless.

  26. Cukurungan says:

    Dear Tom,

    It seemed that you are one of the special man who can read my post without burning brain.

    Basically I agree with your statement , my intention with my post just to give clear lessons don’t even try to insult certain race and religion (see Matahari Post) because other can do the same, all humans races are equal and every people have own specific weakness and strength.

    You aware that most of poor country in the thirds world’s were formerly under the whiteman occupied territory for more than hundred years, the wealth has been stolen from those poors country were made considerable basic of the growth economic country. Of course the whiteman obligations to pay back what has been stolen (at moment sorry the whiteman didn’t deserve credit yet for their aid packet). You don’t need “pura-2 tidak tahu” that the most aid packet to the thirds world’s were parking back in the whiteman bank. And there is only very very few country successfully manage those aid packet to make prosperity for theirs people.

    My understanding those aid packet weren’t in the form of case and carry but rather in the project format and you know what does it mean that what so called the aid packet is just another tricky format of selling and dumping the advanced country product and service to the dumb country.

    As long as the whiteman practicing “mature political agenda” the world’s poverty will even worst.

    I think if the whiteman really want to help the poor country becomes foods self-sufficiency just give the poor countries a fair trade policy and remove all subsidies to their farmer but I don’t think any whiteman taking heed?

    Concerning GM food because the most whiteman rejected this kind of foods , this GM foods was finding its paths to perfect place for dumping that the black people country and it is clearly that GM food further restricted the black farmer becomes an independent farmer and ultimately a dreaming of “black self sufficientcy farmer” becomes faraway
    from reality.

    See crime rate in CIA Factbook or Nation Master, it is quite clear that the melayuman killing rates is much lower than the whiteman killing rates. You’re corret that the birth control is better system to control population but there’s no perfect system so we have to be ready with “plan B” might recently Indonesia trasport accident include in “plan B” who knows.

    thanks,

  27. Al-kahfi says:

    Salam,

    I’m from Malaysia. I just want to let you guys know that NII faksi KW 9 (Abu Toto) is intensively recruiting Muslims from Malaysia!

    Click http://gerakankahfi.blogspot.com

    I just wonder where else NII KW IX is making money. The aqidah is totally different. The ibadah is justified by their (NII KW IX leader) own words.

    It doesn’t make much sense that Panji Gumilang always get away with backups when Malaysians and Indonesians Muslims being cheated, being fired, and the students got drop out just because the “jihad” that they believe in NII!

    How dare Prof Dr Panji Gumilang can get away just like that when the evidences clearly written in the books that exposed him clearly as the ultimate culprit?

    Who’s behind ASPG. Even the BAKIN/BIN leader during 2000s,Hendro was back Panji Gumilang up!

    Do NII KW IX really against NKRI/Malaysian government by their underground movement or just another deviated cult that makes money out of Muslims vulnerable situation?

  28. IndoGood says:

    A. Sudarsono: A Negara Islam would fix many problems, like corruption, bad rice harvest, and immoral foreign influences.

    The FACT IS most islamic countieS full of problems, needing help from western countries! Believe it or not if Indonesia became Islamic country, the country will more left behind compere any Asean countries.
    Islam laws do not work in anywhere in this world! Don’t ever try it Indonesia!

    Human rights are so bad in Islamic counties: this is just one of many samples:
    Saudi Arabia: House of shame.

    What the country needs is righteous leaders and bold enough to sweep away religious-mafias like FPI-followers.

  29. Tomaculum says:

    IndoGood,

    What the country needs is righteous leaders and bold enough to sweep away religious-mafias like FPI-followers.

    Do you want to insult the mafia or the triad? 🙂

  30. Arahmat says:

    I think all you are talking about something you do not really know. Firstly, if we want to know about it (Indonesia Islamic State), it is better to know what it is, the historical backgroud and the important is the spirit.

    Please, collect more information about it. I suggest to search “Ahmad Sudirman”.

    Thank you.

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