Couples on Java should have only one child, says the vice president.
Vice president Jusuf Kalla said to representatives of the national family planning agency (BKKBN) on the 6th that families on the island of Java have to be restricted to only one child. Java was small and overcrowded, and, he is reported to have said, once the Jakarta floods had receded those who wanted children should have only one.
Java represents 6.7% of the country’s total land area, while accounting for almost 60% of the total population. kbri-bangkok.com
Outside of Java Kalla said that there was still much development to be done and a healthily growing population would be of benefit to this. In places like Kalimantan (Indonesian Borneo) and Sulawesi (Celebes) families should be allowed to have up to three children. Those in (West) Papua could have up to five children, he said.
Jusuf Kalla.
There couldn’t be a single and uniform family planning policy for the whole country, Kalla went on, because each area was different. The economic capacity of each province, as well as its land area, education facilities, and other factors, had to be taken into account when determining ideal family size for each place. tempo
Cuk, you’re nuts. No one has the right to pollute the world. It is NOT a right nor a privilege! We all do it but it’s wrong. Nothing is to be proud of polluting, 8% or less or more, it’s still not a justifiable act towards the environment. And why do we have to have the American as our benchmark? There are a lot of other societies whose lifestyle is also extravagant. Do you think those oil tycoons from Arab doing it cheaply? Do you think the sultan of Brunei is living a ‘sederhana’ life?
And burning forest is not the cheapest way as the long term effect extends a lot longer than you think and in the end it is costly, doesn’t necessarily comes in monetary term, but it does cost the environment. It affects health of many people and disturbs the balance of nature and ecosystem. Rain forests take decades to form, it stores water and other necessary resources. It keeps the lands stay where they are. Burning for survival? Do you think before you talk? Typical Indo to only think of short term outcome. Most of land clearing are done by illegal logging for money. From clearing you get land slides, mud slides, flood problem, ecological problem, smoke inhalation, and lots of other problems which human will have to (if not already) pay for their own action. Indonesia has no shame for polluting neighbors and yet still not doing anything about it, instead they seem to be proud and indifferent about this issue! Why should we be proud of this?
IHATEs,
Arab tycoon and Sultan Brunai were never requesting and imposing others to do that to do this whereas American always request others to follow the rule of Game while their rules it out. I know how your’e feeling dudes, you’re so un-happy if I am making your master as a joke.
Btw when you will change your nickname to “ihate cuk”.
Na, you don’t deserve to get that kind of acknowledgement.
If you don’t like the way the Americans live, then don’t follow their ‘game rules’. You may think I do but I don’t. I can’t afford to lead a lavish life. The Arab actually do impose others to follow their game rules…The thing that’s happening in Indo – i.e. The Arabisation (or whatever it’s called)? Ring a bell? What I am saying is that you’re being unfair to blame just the US for whatever reasons and condoning destroying the earth.
Brother’s initially my opinion is the same of yours but when I checked it by myself in the forests. I don’t know what is our poor farmer should do to clear the land for farming. Will anyone provide tractor, bolduzer and manpower to clear the land. Our farmer has no choice to make living while Gov. only done very little to help them.
Of course, there will be considerable impacts to environment and anyway our rakyat Indo can still deal with (biasa hidup sulit) and let our smoke flowing to our neighbors country so they will not only enjoy illegal export logging from our fool Gov. but also enjoy smoke of the burning bushes.
We have to be little tricky when dealing with our prosper neighbors country and if they couldn’t stand anymore with our smoke let them give their money to our poor farmer to buy stuff required to clear the land in environmentally manner.
But Cuk, that’s our Gov’s fault. They are very very very very corrupt. It’s a public knowledge. International even. But why then we have to again put our hand out and ask for other countries to help us? The Gov should do it! That’s their job! That’s what they are paid for! We can’t let them get away with it! It’s shameful to keep handing our hands out. Begging. Getting others to pay for our own mistakes and stupidity. It’s just like you having a child but you abandon him, why should he get a support from the neighbors and not you? He’s your responsibility. The rakyat is the Gov’s responsibility. Without us they won’t be in power. I reckon there should be a coup! Abolish the Gov. If anything needs to get burnt down, there’s nothing better than burning the Gov offices, ministers, and the pemerintah down to the ground. We rakyat are sick of this BS we are having to face everyday! Indonesia has received more help than any other 3rd world countries. The only different is that we have a metropolitan area, so it’s not like we are very poor. The Gov makes us think we are poor while they roll in their glutony.
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By the way Cuk, I am a girl. Why is it when a woman argues and stand strongly on a point on the net, many think they’re a man? The beauty of dunia maya.
oh my girls the last my post is for my brother 1ndra and not for you, I will reply on your post latter on.
Right, my bad. Why? Can’t you think spontaneously or still doing research on how bad the US is and how we can justify to put our hands out to other countries for help?
Brother’s initially my opinion is the same of yours but when I checked it by myself in the forests. I don’t know what is our poor farmer should do to clear the land for farming. Will anyone provide tractor, bolduzer and manpower to clear the land. Our farmer has no choice to make living while Gov. only done very little to help them.
Maybe I know nothing, but is this their forest or goverment’s?
If this is Government’s then it would be a crime.
Maybe they’re low educated to know the effects from the burning forest.
Of course, there will be considerable impacts to environment and anyway our rakyat Indo can still deal with (biasa hidup sulit) and let our smoke flowing to our neighbors country so they will not only enjoy illegal export logging from our fool Gov. but also enjoy smoke of the burning bushes.
We have to be little tricky when dealing with our prosper neighbors country and if they couldn’t stand anymore with our smoke let them give their money to our poor farmer to buy stuff required to clear the land in environmentally manner.
You’re right, lol.
But the last paragraph for me seems nonsense. Because for me it seems like a robbery…not a “harta atau nyawa!” phrase but “equipments or smoke!” lol
This is Government’s impotent how to deal with their own people needs.
Ihate anybody,
Ihate anybody,
What you mean with “Arabization” what is your evidence, your hatred is blinding on your vision.
However, if you want me to list all US committed Crimes, there are so many facts that easily can be found by non-blind people.
I again recommend you go to psychologist, it seemed something wrong inside your minds.
Might you’re the one’s of the rape victims in 98 case if so sorry my condolance for you. Yes our government corruption is anywhere but by recommending burning bulding and abolishing gov that’s would solve the problems, I don’t think so, however If you wish so, might I request JI or FPI to infiltrate in Army and then abolished the Gov and adopt “sharia law”.
Let check again I never asked our Gov to become beggar but rather as robber because our neighbors attitude is no any different with”penadah barang curian”, their mouth always in silent when illegal logging and corruption money came there but they made noise when our smoke flowing there.
Therefore, it is our rights to take back those “barang curian”.
I would like to inform you that my time to make posting only available during the meeting that’s I was not interesting or during traveling. So sorry for delay on the reply.
American Lover.
However, if you want me to list all US committed Crimes, there are so many facts that easily can be found by non-blind people.
Ok, keep blaming the US and others, keeping burning your forests and ruining your own environment and when the land is not fit for man nor beast (as it is already in many places) You can say “but thats not fair we have more people and we are poor so we are allowed to trash our own place, its all some one else’s fault”.
Oh that’s right you won’t be able to, the air is too foul to breathe, the water to foul to drink.
Seriously, what other countries do or don’t do is not the point. Can you not see that only Indonesians can help Indonesia and it is almost too late anyway.
When your forests are gone, your oceans are bare, and resources gone, you can complain all you like but noone will listen. Fair or not fair, doesn’t matter dead is dead.
Only a demented person treats their home like a garbage dump, no matter what the neighbours do or have not done.
I would like to inform you that my time to make posting only available during the meeting that’s I was not interesting or during traveling
Hehehe, so when is the time that you will be interesting?
Proof of Arabisation? Just look at how Indonesia is becoming! You ask JI? So you have a connection there. Mmmm. Terrorist.
Oigal, bravo.
Seriously, what other countries do or don’t do is not the point. Can you not see that only Indonesians can help Indonesia and it is almost too late anyway.
Yes, we can only help ourselves. But sadly, many people think blaming others is the easiest way. And we are never wrong, never need to learn from past mistakes. I don’t understand why receiving help constantly is something to be proud of.
What is wrong with blaming other even your shameful Master of Mr Bush also blaming Syria and Iran when his modern army can do nothing in dealing with handful of iraqi al qaida.
This is my country what we do and we don’t is not your concern and we people never asking IMF or World’s Bank to give us money.
Whatever happened we are happy to live here and if you don’t just go wherever you like, who cares and your understanding is not required.
Hehehehe,
What is your definition of ‘never’? Another example of ungratefulness displayed. IMF helped, Gov stole money. And somehow it’s the IMF’s fault not the gov. And another misfortune happens, please sir, help us, we are so poor.
What is wrong with blaming others? You tell me where is the right in the action.
If you were happy to live there then you wouldn’t be complaining and constantly blaming others for the misfortune.
You tell me when Raden Mas Cukurungan bin Cukurmiring asking for help…hi hi hi….never my girls while Suharto I never chose him…
Is there any correlation happy with blaming and complaining others. That’s is my hobby and sorry if this times my subject hobby is your master.
Cukurungan,
What is wrong with blaming other even your shameful Master of Mr Bush also blaming Syria and Iran when his modern army can do nothing in dealing with handful of iraqi al qaida
Why has the US always to be brought in? The US does this….. the US does that…..
So what? Whenever the US government does something bad or blames other countries, should other countries follow that policy then? I don’t think so.
By blaming others instead of taking responsibility yourself you are just copying American behaviour and not going your own way.
Robert: “Why has the US always to be brought in? The US does this”¦.. the US does that”¦..So what? Whenever the US government does something bad or blames other countries, should other countries follow that policy then? I don’t think so.”
“Tanya kenapa”? Ask yourself why was that the case. Why does that view prevalent on almost all third world countries? Or countries not directly allied to the US..
Roberts,
If you don’t think so but I think so.
So what?
I am nobody in meanwhile, I am enjoying for being american copiers
American Lover
Cukurungan,
I was only talking about the fact that the US is being dragged into a lot of discussions, appropriately or inappropriately. That the US is responsible for a lot things happening in the world maybe true, but they are not responsible for everything. They should only be dragged into the discussion where it matters.
Because the US dragged itself into matters.
Indra,
Because the US dragged itself into matters.
That statement is valid true for a lot of issues, but I think sometimes the US is dragged into a discussion just for the discussion’s sake. But again it is just my opinion.
It is true, the US tend to stick their noses into a lot things which are none of their business.
I agree with you, indonesia is more population than the other county. Child is our future, they must gets better lives than us. So one child is better our lives. The better live for our child is good education and good nutrision of food if the famili is poor.
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No brother, burning trees is the cheapest but destroying and ‘killing’ other.
You could see on tv how the smoke’s effects are, bad for health, bad vision for transportation, make the habitant to loose and many other bad effects.
For me, I classified this as a kind of terrorism.