Women Police Officers’ Uniforms
Mar 5th, 2009, in News, by Patung
Bright ideas are coming thick and fast from the East Java police chief, this time headscarves for policewomen.
After suggesting that police officers improve their image and strengthen their faith by performing prayers while on the job Brigadier General Anton Bachrul Alam only a few days later has asked that Muslim police women don the jilbab/hijab, or headscarf, while on duty.
This is to invite them to walk the straight path. By wearing the jilbab it means concealing their womanliness [aurat].
It’s all happening in the BrigGen’s mind right now.
However our hero added
It’s a suggestion, not an order.
It was a suggestion that the police district of Bojonegoro had already put into practise, he said, and detik
I’m sure that police women will wear the jilbab. It would be good for them.
Reactions soon came from Muhammadiyah, Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI), and the Prosperous Justice Party (Partai Keadilan Sejahtera (PKS)). Spokesman of all three organisations praised the police chief’s good intentions, but warned against the use of any force, saying that the decision for a woman to conceal her head hair must come from the heart. detik detik
168 Comments on “Women Police Officers’ Uniforms”
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schmerly says:
AssmadsAngryBitch..
What was your job before you become an English teacher in Indonesia? A shelf-stacker?
I’m glad to report I’m still holding down both jobs.
@ Bodoh Perkoso..
Definitely British, what what flavour? Scottish perhaps?
Wrong!
Since the subject has been raised, my money is on British, I already know what line of work so that wouldn’t be fair.
You’ve lost your money Simple Simon, and made yourself look stupid again.
@ Perkoso the Bodoh..
We know Schmerly spends a couple of weeks every third year here with his wife – he is nearly a permanent resident
Do you just dream this sort of crap up? or are you just stupid, and spouting off anything that comes into your head?
Your dumb link means nothing its just numbers, and as we all know in Indonesia money covers everything.
And a Indonesian child exploitation link for you to follow.
http://www.unicef.org/indonesia/protection.html
@ Perkoso the Bodoh..
Since the subject has been raised, my money is on British, I already know what line of work so that wouldn’t be fair.
And there was me thinking how much you love to try and impress others with your self opinionated rants, “I already know what line of work so that wouldn’t be fair” do you?? I wonder, another assumption ? or do you believe everything you read you sad pathetic halfwit, LoL!!
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Mr Tic Tac Toe says:
Tn Schmer, YTH.
Wrong!
Your avatar is a bald …thing. and you say ‘wrong’ alot.
Let me guess, you must be this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOkQ5qJJMgQ&feature=relatedam i close?
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I actually had someone email me about schmerly’s avatar, asking me to ban him or limit him to one post a day, because of the avatar, can’t say it bothers me…
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Patung On other blogs people didn’t like my old avatar, so I changed it thinking this one was OK, and some people think it’s cute!! but I don’t agree with cute , there are some weird people out there who complain about an avatar? they should get a life.
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Oh wow! LOL.
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Sorry for needing a second post. I was speechless.
This is a reply to a deleted post.
I honestly caught off-guard by your remarks, Tn. Schmerly. I was in my Stratrek Vulcan Costume on that pic (i think). LOL. I guess i have to change my avatar then…*shakes head.
…errr, no i didnt mean to criticize your avatar. I was just joining the guessing contest.
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@ Mr Tic Tac Toe… With a stupid remark like that, you’ve just lost any street cred you may have had!
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@ Mr Tic Tac Toe… With a stupid remark like that, you’ve just lost any street cred you may have had!
Perhaps I deserve it. I sincerely apologize.
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Mr Tic Tac Toe.. OK no problem.
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Aluang Anak Bayang says:
@ Oigal
But for the average Javanese to lecture me or anyone else on aspects of Balinese culture and mores (or vise versa) for instance give me a break. The average tourist would have better grasp on his first day tour. …
Oink oink .. Look’s who is talking here. Bules know everything. Ask the average Oz kids where milk and eggs come from? carton and bottle?
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Berlian Biru says:
And as we discuss insecure psychotic westerners pretending to be Indonesians, bang on cue arrives AAB.
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And as we discuss insecure psychotic westerners pretending to be Indonesians, bang on cue arrives AAB.
I think we need a special symbol for ‘genuine’ Indonesians, something next to their name…I think AAB would be included in that group though…
You know that guy you often see at the Hotel Indonesia roundabout, unkempt hair, wild eyed, completely naked and muttering to himself?
Well that’s me.
Is this you BK?
(In case anyone gets sensitive about this no I’m not making fun of the man, he was quite pleasant..)
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Suryo Perkoso says:
Sylvester Says:
March 6th, 2009 at 4:14 am
Next, maybe….
Polygamy in the police force
More sweeping in hotels
KUHP is replaced by syariah
Detachment 88 is disbanded…..you named it
No, that is generally limited to seedy, creepy little men from Jl Jaksa.
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@ Perkoso the Bodoh..
We know Schmerly spends a couple of weeks every third year here with his wife – he is nearly a permanent resident
Do you just dream this sort of crap up? or are you just stupid, and spouting off anything that comes into your head?
Your dumb link means nothing its just numbers, and as we all know in Indonesia money covers everything.
Well Schmerely, I can only say that if you feel that way, you don’t have anything to do with the place – you sound JUST like and old sad expat who posts the same rubbish – it was all jolly good fun while he had his oats and drank his voddy but now the attraction is wearing off. I hope he will be happy when he goes home, wherever that will be, but I feel he won’t as there is a snake in the grass everywhere he goes.
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I think we need a special symbol for ‘genuine’ Indonesians, something next to their name…I think AAB would be included in that group though…
Koh Patung, I think it is a good idea, however I would suggest one minor changes – special symbol for authentic Javanese. This is because not all ‘genuine’ Indonesians, Mr TTT for example, are great debaters. As a token for keeping your blog free of arrogant Chinese hokkiens, diehard Jihadis and perverted bules, we deserve special memberships. Below are few senior member to start with:
Sheikh Cuk – a Javanese moslem like myself but more religious, although his avatar tells otherwise. A great scholar.
Dr. Ahmad Sudarsono – a white Javanese. Honest and always telling the truth.
Captain Purba Negoro – He deserves to be Javanese. Loyal and no-hold bar.
Dumadi Satrio – Apprentice white Javanese. Probably need some guidance, but at least he is catching up.
Bu Full Moon Flower – Wonder where she is. Her ‘bule moslem = traitor’ line is a classic. She is needed to demoralize bule moslems.
Pak Mantri – didn’t follow his postings much but am pretty sure he is authentic from his boso jowo. As long as he is Javanese moslem, he ain’t too heavy.
Professor Lareidon – had come Javanese connection. Need him to keep away anglo pests and religious thugs.
and of course myself,
Sir Aluang Anak Bayang. I forgot to inform you that I was knighted by the Queen earlier this year. -
Um, alright, but you missed out Diego, Latino Balinese, if they are included, and I think they should be.
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diego says:
@Patung
Ay, caray! How did you figure out I’m a balinese?
I, actually, almost believed that I’m a chinese (thanks to dragie who kept telling us every single indon has a splinter of chinese gen in his/her DNA).
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I remember you from waaay back, frankly I preferred the old you…
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@ Ayunan Arek Payung. I suppose i’ll just have to wait my turn then? Oh well.
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Additional idea: I think it would be interesting if Patung would compile a statistic telling us how fast each thread turn into a pissing contest / slugfest….
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Tn. Aluang.
Im a bit hesitant to comment you back, but here it is.
This is because not all ‘genuine’ Indonesians, Mr TTT for example, are great debaters.
Thank you, for that insightful observation. You are correct. I, indeed, am not a great debater. I simply …to quote somebody, “tell it like it is”.
You, on the other hand, are a master-debater and a cunning-linguist. This is the highest praise i can give to you.
Salute.
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@ Perkoso the Bodoh.. What a weak comment, looks like you’ve lost the plot, plus your money LoL
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Burung Koel says:
Is this you BK?
No, I’m not so much of a ladies’ man.
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@ AssmadsAngryBitch..
I forgot to inform you that I was knighted by the Queen earlier this year.
I think you mean knighted by a Queen, going by your association with the numpty club and the rest of the giggly girls.
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Oigal says:
Oink oink .. Look’s who is talking here
AAB..
Pig Insults now, wow slashed by your rapier wit..
Now Ssshh.. Adults are talking, if we need your opinion we will squeeze a grub.
But for the adults, the point is Indonesia is way too comlex for any average person “Indonesian or Orang Asing” to make the claim they understand the complexity of the culture. It is as an absurb and arrogant statement as saying there is an Indonesian culture there isn’t there are hundreds and within those regional influences that further complicate the matter.
Therefore for any piece of talking planton to insist only he/he she has the right to comment on a culture because only he/she understands the culture is amusing but fatally flawed logic unless we are talking about the very small sub-group to which they belong.
Of course, it could be said then none of us have the right to comment on any culture but that would leave just the name calling and that standard has dropped of late
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@ AssmadsAngryBitch..
however I would suggest one minor changes – special symbol for authentic Javanese.
I noticed three of the names on the list are already Numpty Club members, and therefore already marked i.e. Cukie, AAB and who’s that other weirdo? Oh! yes AS, just put (NCM) next to the name, and that will differentiate this subspecies from normal humans, easy really.
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@AAB…
I cannot remember if it was this thread or another that I posted a comment about your contributions to Australia. If you reread them, the comments that is, you will see that they are actually more complimentary of you than anything else. TO construe them as otherwise would be misplaced, but to each their own.
The Murray carp comment is a nice touch. I am guessing this is/has something to do with being an introduced species that then becomes a pest? Once again, your problem with me is that I am white and Australian, and this is why you seek to write off all of my comments as a know it all. However, if you took the time to read my comments you would see that I am hardly a know it all when it comes to all things Indonesian, but I do try and learn.
@All…
The name calling and the like of late highlights a complete lack of arguments across the board. As to Diego’s comment about how long does a thread last on topic before the trolling starts would be interesting and ultimately irrelevant because it is unlikely to change anything in this part of the world…
I am always fascinated by the idea that only those of the culture can comment on that culture. It has never stopped the likes of AAB from posting about the deficiencies in Australian culture. Should he be prevented from voicing his observations, hell no!
If people have a problem with AAB, then go after the substance of his comments not the man. If this IM thing was sport then there would have been plenty of red cards already because people prefer to play the man (or woman) rather than the game (substance).
Enjoy your weekend.
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If people have a problem with AAB, then go after the substance of his comments
Mmmm.. Is that like a test or something? Wouldn’t you need one of those particle smash together thingies to discover if the sustance exists. For what I have heard, people are worried that doing such a thing could destroy the planet..hardly seems worth the risk..
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Well I get confused because it is now deemed offensive to call coloured guys “coloured guys” and there was me thinking it was polite. Apparently I have to say “black”, though how that can be backed up with fact I don’t know. On the Berger whiteness scale there aren’t many who are actually black.
Re “the full story” well here isn’t the place for it, but I’ll dole it up a bit and post it somewhere with no names or drill and you can work it our for yourself – to be honest there were bits of it that were quite funny at the time.
Yes, I do find it ridiculous that a police officer made the suggestions that he did, but in the next breath I also believe he has the right to say it.
Just as well we don’t start a debate on the caste system in India.